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  On 10/20/2013 at 10:28 PM, Marauder said:

Losing Mayo was huge. He was the main man on that defense, and with Wilfork out they will be balancing on a fine line to succeed. The Pats are going to lose more games, and even if they make the playoffs, they won't go far.

 

It isn't just their D--Brady is not "Brady" this year. Did you see his stat line this week (or most weeks this year)? He's been quite pedestrian all around....

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  On 10/20/2013 at 8:39 PM, Marauder said:

I think the Pats are gonna lose enough games, that the division will be up for grabs. They are beat up, and Brady is not the same guy he was before. I would much rather watch them suffer...

  On 10/20/2013 at 11:16 PM, MattM said:

It isn't just their D--Brady is not "Brady" this year. Did you see his stat line this week (or most weeks this year)? He's been quite pedestrian all around....

 

I posted that earlier in this thread...

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  On 10/20/2013 at 10:09 PM, MattM said:

If you look at the actual rule (there are PFT articles on it) the play was a textbook example of that penalty. No ifs, ands or "butts"....

 

Just poor coaching....

 

Player says coaches covered it in preseason and takes full responsibility

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  On 10/20/2013 at 8:22 PM, mjt328 said:

I can't handle Dan Dierdorff.

 

Every Patriots incomplete pass comes with an excuse why it wasn't Brady's fault.

 

He does have one helluva man-crush on Brady..lol..why is it always "Tom" and not Brady? Does he refer to the other playes by their first names?

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  On 10/20/2013 at 11:16 PM, MattM said:

It isn't just their D--Brady is not "Brady" this year. Did you see his stat line this week (or most weeks this year)? He's been quite pedestrian all around....

 

I think what we're seeing is just how much of Brady being "Brady" was Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez, and Branch

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  On 10/21/2013 at 1:34 AM, Hopeful said:

I think what we're seeing is just how much of Brady being "Brady" was Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez, and Branch

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Ridiculous. Brady has been great his entire career.

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  On 10/21/2013 at 2:18 AM, Heitz said:

Breakout your tinfoil hat - it was all a massive conspiracy against that Pats! I mean, how else could they have possible lost!?

 

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/nfl-changed-the-push-rule-after-they-called-it/

 

 

:beer:

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/nfl-com-article-contributes-to-confusion-regarding-rule-that-burned-pats/

 

Some debunking for the conspiracy theorists....

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looks like the reports today are the jets caught the pats pulling that move the week prior, and warned the refs to keep an eye out for it. if so, great job coaching on the jets part.

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  On 10/21/2013 at 7:34 PM, NoSaint said:

looks like the reports today are the jets caught the pats pulling that move the week prior, and warned the refs to keep an eye out for it. if so, great job coaching on the jets part.

reporting it to the refs at the start of overtime after they had used the same tactic on the Pat's game tying kick.

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  On 10/20/2013 at 8:14 PM, Buffalos#1Fan said:

I am hoping NE wins just because it helps Buf's wild card hopes.

then you should have wished for a tie

 

that half game means a lot. like 7.5 points that hook (.5) can be a difference maker.

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  On 10/21/2013 at 7:34 PM, NoSaint said:

looks like the reports today are the jets caught the pats pulling that move the week prior, and warned the refs to keep an eye out for it. if so, great job coaching on the jets part.

That seems to be exactly what happened. Article in today's NY Times confirms it and Rex is not apologizing. The Jets were prepared and the Pats were not. If Rex gets fired at the end if the season (increasingly unlikely), the Bills should hire him immediately.
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  On 10/20/2013 at 8:28 PM, stevestojan said:

Ok. So the refs are always for new England? They just got hosed.

No they didn't. Correct call, just not called alot. Patriots HAVE won too many games with non calls. That hold at the end of the Saints game on Nate Solder was never called. Arm wrapped around a guys body. That non call won them another game. Edited by Smears
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  On 10/22/2013 at 4:32 AM, Smears said:

No they didn't. Correct call, just not called alot. Patriots HAVE won too many games with non calls. That hold at the end of the Saints game on Nate Solder was never called. Arm wrapped around a guys body. That non call won them another game.

not only was it the correct call, before the season began, NFL officials visited every team's training camp and gave a tutorial on all the new rules, including that one. Someone just wasn't paying attention.
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  On 10/22/2013 at 4:48 AM, Drop Kick Flutie said:

There is a video from September of the VP of officiating stating that the rule applied to players not on the line at the snap. NFL !@#$ed up teaching the rules.

 

Nope. If that were true, then why would Ryan have known using a guy from the line was illegal. And why did Belichick admit he was wrong?

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  On 10/22/2013 at 3:57 AM, mannc said:

That seems to be exactly what happened. Article in today's NY Times confirms it and Rex is not apologizing. The Jets were prepared and the Pats were not. If Rex gets fired at the end if the season (increasingly unlikely), the Bills should hire him immediately.

No thanks (JMO)

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