ChanOverChin Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I think the Bills planned to play Manuel this year come hell or high water. They are rebuilding.......meaning that they are not ready to challenge the Seattle's/Denver's of the world just yet. Hopefully, Manuel becomes a viable starting QB for the future. The jury is still out on that. The Bills have not built this team to compete for the SB just yet. They have drafted well recently so if they can draft just as well next year then we might be able to actually compete with the big boys. Without Manuel healthy this team is sunk. The next four games will be very tough to win without a viable starting QB. if we lose those four we'll be 2-7 and already looking at next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Man Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Give me a break. If Tuel lights it up last night, everyone and their brother thinks we have an RGIII / Cousins thing going on. The loss sucks, get over it. This team is making progress big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Give me a break. If Tuel lights it up last night, everyone and their brother thinks we have an RGIII / Cousins thing going on. The loss sucks, get over it. This team is making progress big time. I agree they are progressing but I just don't think you put a very talented team (assume there were no other injuries), in a position where if your starting QB goes down, the season is over....It's not fair to the rest of the team or the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Didn't read all three pages. Just looked like OP forgot about the guy named Kolb. Re: Kolb--lol at all the people who NOW say that Fitz was better. Kolb for Fitz was a push. Always was. I never said that, largely because Fitzpatrick is far more durable. Fitz was and is a much better option. I assume you're referring to backup QB...so...are you forgetting that we signed Kolb? That there was a mad offseason rush to gobble up anything that even remotely resembled QB talent? Kolb was gone two weeks before the season even started. Sure, Leinart didn't work out, but there were other options. The Bills appear to have just thrown up their hands and said "we'll go with two." Not a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I never said that, largely because Fitzpatrick is far more durable. Fitz was and is a much better option. Kolb was gone two weeks before the season even started. Sure, Leinart didn't work out, but there were other options. The Bills appear to have just thrown up their hands and said "we'll go with two." Not a good plan. Name five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Kolb was gone two weeks before the season even started. Sure, Leinart didn't work out, but there were other options. The Bills appear to have just thrown up their hands and said "we'll go with two." Not a good plan. A lot of teams go with two. At cutdown date, fourteen teams had only two on their active roster. Two years ago, 11 teams went into the season with two. About one third of the teams carry two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Name five. Not that l love any of these guys at all, but they're ALL way better than Tuel. For one, they've all led TD drives before. Tim Tebow Vince Young David Carr Caleb Hanie Dennis Dixon Charlie Batch Jimmy Clausen A lot of teams go with two. At cutdown date, fourteen teams had only two on their active roster. Two years ago, 11 teams went into the season with two. About one third of the teams carry two. I did not know it was that high. Thanks. Seems ill thought out to me, but what do I know? Presumably, though, the other 10 teams went into the season with credible backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I did not know it was that high. Thanks. Seems ill thought out to me, but what do I know? Presumably, though, the other 10 teams went into the season with credible backups. Yep. Very ill thought. The problem wasn't keeping two, the problem was who was our #2. I give Whaley and Marrone a lot of credit for what they have done in a very short time period. This was a huge mistake and I was against having Tuel from the start. It's almost unconscionable to have him in there as your #2. They were taking a risk, a huge one, with the backup. Tuel wasn't even good in college. He got benched for two games in his senior year. I was actually hoping the Bills signed Brady Quinn when he was released and I think Quinn stinks. But we had a very good chance of winning that game if we had Quinn. Tuel stinks. He's a PS player at best, and it showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 If Manuel is out next week, who will play QB if Tuel gets hurt? Fred Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would shut up and feel better if Brandon said they are taking Fitz entire cap hit this year -- and that they restructured Kyle Williams contact to lower his out years etc. etc --- instead, Brandon is doing what he has done for the past decade --- and we know how that's gone --- Bingo!!! I am very surprised that this isn't mentioned more often. They put off huge cap hits until 2014, this with 20 mil just sitting there. Creative accounting, but this will not help us at all next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yep. Very ill thought. The problem wasn't keeping two, the problem was who was our #2. I give Whaley and Marrone a lot of credit for what they have done in a very short time period. This was a huge mistake and I was against having Tuel from the start. It's almost unconscionable to have him in there as your #2. They were taking a risk, a huge one, with the backup. Tuel wasn't even good in college. He got benched for two games in his senior year. I was actually hoping the Bills signed Brady Quinn when he was released and I think Quinn stinks. But we had a very good chance of winning that game if we had Quinn. Tuel stinks. He's a PS player at best, and it showed. Yep. He really does stink!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer180 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am happy with the direction of the Bills. Tuel may be ok in the short run with a full week of reps. He was missing lots of pieces too. We have to let Manuel develop this year. We are building a solid defence, good offensive line. I would be happy if we won 8 games this year and got ready to challenge for a playoff spot next year. I just want to know that we are gooing in the right direction. I think we have a good coach and a good young QB. I hope I am right. My patience after 30 years is running thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Not that l love any of these guys at all, but they're ALL way better than Tuel. For one, they've all led TD drives before. Tim Tebow Vince Young David Carr Caleb Hanie Dennis Dixon Charlie Batch Jimmy Clausen I did not know it was that high. Thanks. Seems ill thought out to me, but what do I know? Presumably, though, the other 10 teams went into the season with credible backups. TD drives? How about a first down that wasn't caused by a penalty? I love how these arguments get turned around that Kolb was the only available option and it's not obd's fault that he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Would someone ask our "new" owner Ross Branden why were $20 million under the cap. Is it so our old owner can buy himself a gold-plated casket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Name five. 1. Josh Freeman: He's looking for work and would give theBills a guy who could start in Week 6. Freeman's a streaky passer with accuracy issues, but his arm is a rocket.2. Vince Young: His preseason play with the Packers gave Green Bay a spark. Young's skill set would allow Buffalo to run its offense, and people forget he owns a 31-19 record as a starter. 3. Thaddeus Lewis: He currently sits on Buffalo's practice squad. Lewis started a game for the Browns last season and wasn't a disaster. He's a roster option if Buffalo wants to take one more look at Tuel. 4. Matt Leinart: He was a nightmare with the Bills in August, and we don't expect that to change. Leinart's on this list because Marrone's familiar with him, not because he's worth another look. 5. David Carr: A decidedly dull option, but a veteran who could serve as a patch. A very boring patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I don't think the redskins last year were all that different with cousins last year. Jeeeze people. If you have been a fan long enough it's plainly clear the bills have a better team, more talent and a brighter future than they have in two decades. Cleveland is good. Sorry. They are leading their division with the steelers ravens and bengals. Three perennially strong teams of recent years that hold two Super Bowl teams from the past few years. The bills have been in position to win very game this season except the jets game, with a second string secondary. They will have a legitimate playoff push if EJ gets and stay healthy. Believe it. ...when I see it. Now show me the...oh, never mind. The new mantra is, " we are headed in the right direction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebes Bubble Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Would have loved to had Fitz last night to finish that game. It seems everyone's moral was killed when Tuel came in. Yeah, because Fitz, despite being a veteran, never threw INTs and Pick-6's, right? How soon people forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So you wish we didn't have EJ Manuel? I do, EJ aint the answer, he's one of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 look no further than having an undrafted rookie QB as your backup. there's nothing left to do but laugh, nice work guys Please identify the veteran backup that was there for the taking that the front office was too stupid to pick up. Jimmy Clausen? Leinert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I don 't want to see Tuel in the lineup. The kid was 4-22 in college. Name me another free agent besides jack kemp that has done anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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