eball Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I do have a masters in sports management & serve as an AD for a school district. But did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Most colleges require it. I'd make my OL wear them, and my interior/not speedster types on the DL wear them as well. Im not doctor but maybe a brace could have prevented Carringtons quad tear? (Which is season ending) It looked like it was at or around the knee. PS: I also think we get injured more often because we are either out of shape, or less athletic, or both, than other teams. Face it, when you are out of shape you get lazy and lathargetc and get into more injury prone situations. When you are more athletic you can avoid those situations. It leads to more injuries. Remeber when Wood had that horrible leg injury? He was blocking and got roled up on by someone from the Jags who was making a sack. Well, if our RT was a better blocker, and didnt allow that sack - boom, Eric wood wouldn't have broke his leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 But did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Ramada at the Newark airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You herd it hear last Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 ...and Stevie hurt his hand because he wasn't wearing a hand brace. full body braces for all, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBills51 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Who says the Bills offensive line is injury prone? They have had the same starting 5 all season save for Urbik missing one series. Last season, Glenn, Levitre and Urbik didn't miss a snap and Pears/Hairston kind of platooned depending on who was healthy. Wood, the one guy who wears a knee brace (according to you) got hurt for two games as he does every year. I would venture to say that in recent years, the Bills offensive line has been particularly resistant to injury. What in the world are you talking about? And also, what are you, a knee brace salesman? I would suggest getting your facts straight before you decide to bash someone. Glenn and Urbik were both out for a couple of games last season. Also, Hairston, Pears, Wood and Rineheart all missed games last year. Maybe you don't remember, but at one point, the Bills were down to just four offensive lineman after the San Fransisco game. So, if having almost all of your lineman miss time last year is the epitome of good health, then by all means continue to bash away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I think there are certain colleges, maybe USC that makes it madatory for all OL to wear knee braces as a preventive measure. Do not see how it could hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I think there are certain colleges, maybe USC that makes it madatory for all OL to wear knee braces as a preventive measure. Do not see how it could hurt us. the tradeoff would be mobility, i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) the problem wasnt the idea that they should, it was declaring them injury prone with no base line, not linking any kind of info, etc.... like i said, it amounted to "braces good, injuries bad" when boiled down. its not a bad idea but declaring that woods knee wouldve been ok with a brace, or that because he had one there wasnt a tear just isnt really great content. In 2010 3 of 5 players missed games. Center Goff Hangartner played 12 games, RG Eric Wood, played in 14 games. RT Mansfield Wrotto played in 7 games. In 2011 only Levitre and Pears played in all 16 games. Center Eric Wood played in 9 games and the team went into the ceramic convenience once Wood went down. The team started out 5-2 that year.Colin Brown one GS and played in 11 games-Chad Rinehart 12 GS, played in 16 games- Chris Hairston 7 GS, played in 13 games. In 2012 LT Cordy Glenn 13 game starts, C Eric Wood 14 game starts, Kraig Urbik 13 game starts.Colin Brown 1 game, one GS, Chad Rinehart 7 games, 2 GS- Garrison Sanborn 16 games, 0 starts-Reggie Wells 1 game, 0 GS In summery the ONLY player to play in all 16 games for the Buffalo Bills the last 3 years is now a Tennessee Titan in Andy Levitre. Conversely, center Eric Wood has been hurt every year he has played for the Buffalo Bills. So the OP has a valid point about O line injuries. Then considering the best player on that line has gone down every year with a knee injury the last three years, his point is immensely important in my view. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2012_roster.htm EDIT: for the pro-football-reference.com Edited September 23, 2013 by FeartheLosing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I think Chan(or the coach before) made it mandatory for O-line to wear braces in preseason. If I were a player I wold want the protection, to stick around a little longer and make more money . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Most if not all college programs REQUIRE knee braces no reason NFL shouldn't just like helmets are mandated in NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 In 2010 3 of 5 players missed games. Center Goff Hangartner played 12 games, RG Eric Wood, played in 14 games. RT Mansfield Wrotto played in 7 games. In 2011 only Levitre and Pears played in all 16 games. Center Eric Wood played in 9 games and the team went into the ceramic convenience once Wood went down. The team started out 5-2 that year.Colin Brown one GS and played in 11 games-Chad Rinehart 12 GS, played in 16 games- Chris Hairston 7 GS, played in 13 games. In 2012 LT Cordy Glenn 13 game starts, C Eric Wood 14 game starts, Kraig Urbik 13 game starts.Colin Brown 1 game, one GS, Chad Rinehart 7 games, 2 GS- Garrison Sanborn 16 games, 0 starts-Reggie Wells 1 game, 0 GS In summery the ONLY player to play in all 16 games for the Buffalo Bills the last 3 years is now a Tennessee Titan in Andy Levitre. Conversely, center Eric Wood has been hurt every year he has played for the Buffalo Bills. So the OP has a valid point about O line injuries. Then considering the best player on that line has gone down every year with a knee injury the last three years, his point is immensely important in my view. So it seems there should be good data on this. Discussing a knee braces and using any time missed regardless of injury is the equivalent of saying well it couldn't be worse. In this case if probably couldn't hurt but simply listing all our injuries regardless of them being a knee or not doesn't add to that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 So it seems there should be good data on this. Discussing a knee braces and using any time missed regardless of injury is the equivalent of saying well it couldn't be worse. In this case if probably couldn't hurt but simply listing all our injuries regardless of them being a knee or not doesn't add to that discussion. The only O line injury I am certain of is that center Eric Wood has gone down with a knee injury every year for the last 3 years, and now he already wears a knee brace every game. The other Bills players would probably be smart to also wear them on both legs. It would make sense for the Bills players to wear braces like the Patriot players do. Not certain what the team policy is on this issue tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Did anybody catch how many players now don't wear cups... Yes, cups! How it is not cool apparently... Seems cup wearing ebbs and flows in The League. I caught an interview where the Philly trainer says that he stocks them and they sit on the self! This will all change again when somebody gets their nuts nailed like the Bears kick retunrner did in the 1970's (Virgil Livers, look it up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You herd it hear last Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Did anybody catch how many players now don't wear cups... Yes, cups! How it is not cool apparently... Seems cup wearing ebbs and flows in The League. I caught an interview where the Philly trainer says that he stocks them and they sit on the self! This will all change again when somebody gets their nuts nailed like the Bears kick retunrner did in the 1970's (Virgil Livers, look it up). please stop typing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 In 2010 3 of 5 players missed games. Center Goff Hangartner played 12 games, RG Eric Wood, played in 14 games. RT Mansfield Wrotto played in 7 games. In 2011 only Levitre and Pears played in all 16 games. Center Eric Wood played in 9 games and the team went into the ceramic convenience once Wood went down. The team started out 5-2 that year.Colin Brown one GS and played in 11 games-Chad Rinehart 12 GS, played in 16 games- Chris Hairston 7 GS, played in 13 games. In 2012 LT Cordy Glenn 13 game starts, C Eric Wood 14 game starts, Kraig Urbik 13 game starts.Colin Brown 1 game, one GS, Chad Rinehart 7 games, 2 GS- Garrison Sanborn 16 games, 0 starts-Reggie Wells 1 game, 0 GS In summery the ONLY player to play in all 16 games for the Buffalo Bills the last 3 years is now a Tennessee Titan in Andy Levitre. Conversely, center Eric Wood has been hurt every year he has played for the Buffalo Bills. So the OP has a valid point about O line injuries. Then considering the best player on that line has gone down every year with a knee injury the last three years, his point is immensely important in my view. http://www.pro-footb...2012_roster.htm EDIT: for the pro-football-reference.com Huh. Sounds like the reason the Bills' o-line is injury-prone is because they let go of the durable players. Reverse-Darwinism at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I recall years back when I was injured talking with physical therapist about braces. She discouraged it as her feeling was by wearing a brace the joint doesn't get as strong. Not comparing myself to an NFL player, but still the same reasoning. Seems I recall hearing about situation where they make the players wear them for practice only but not in games, thinking is they don't lose the mobility in games but still protect themselves in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We never got any of these injuries when Rusty was trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 please stop typing LoL... I don't make this Sh*t up, it is all about wearing the PPE's (Personal Protection Equipment), knee braces included... :-P Here's an article: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/040922 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dude I just find it hard to believe that bigcountrybills knows more about 300 pound men protecting their knees than medical staffs made up of doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I recall years back when I was injured talking with physical therapist about braces. She discouraged it as her feeling was by wearing a brace the joint doesn't get as strong. Not comparing myself to an NFL player, but still the same reasoning. Seems I recall hearing about situation where they make the players wear them for practice only but not in games, thinking is they don't lose the mobility in games but still protect themselves in practice. I would say that is old bunk! Not being nasty... But who's saying one can't train w/out a knee brace and only wear it when the game is on the line? To stop an injury from an unorthodox motion. Players train so much better and longer now... Games are only 3 hours a week. The knee can get stronger @ other times. Obviously the problem with a PPE/device is movement and comfort... Why I brought up the cup thing. Race car drivers thought the same thing with head restraints till it too DE to die... Now it seems they all wear them. Of course it isn't so simple... But if the can get othe comfort trade off and adjust to the range of movement... The device gotta be saving a bunch of knees. Whenever debates come up like this you always get the "traditional" crowd to agrue against anything new or different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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