Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I drafted Spiller and Jackson in my league. I hope I dont have to flip a coin for who I start each week CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemedic Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Last year's blocking scheme was better for Spilller than the blocking scheme used in this game. That scheme created holes and slant lanes that Spiller utilized to get his runs up the middle. And it is the OC's responsibility to adjust plays to take advantage of whatever the defense was giving and he did not do that. AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 They are two different backs that will be better or worse matchups depending on the d they face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Let's revisit this thread after Freddy's first fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Last year's blocking scheme was better for Spilller than the blocking scheme used in this game. That scheme created holes and slant lanes that Spiller utilized to get his runs up the middle. And it is the OC's responsibility to adjust plays to take advantage of whatever the defense was giving and he did not do that. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-town Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Freddy is 32 he is in the exact role he should be...getting 15 carries a game and used for blitz pickups. You don't wanna start him and have him gassed by week 13 or 14 cuz there is a good chance that might happen with his age. That being said it is great to see that he still has that chip on his shoulder when he is out there and he looked fast as ever hitting those holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It should be noted that CJ carried the ball as many times (17) as he did in BOTH NE games last year (9,8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The late changed their d play when spiller came out. That changed it a little for fred. They loosened up I want to know why we didn't put both on the field in some play action, in some read option. In some presnap CJ wide stuff. Clearly the pats d keyed on spiller. And it was apparent in the game. What's his name lined IP against him every time and that was enough to stop him. Clealr lane to CJ every time. Thanks to bianca. Mayo kept spiller in check. He could. It stop Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Fred is still better than CJ. Yes, I said it. He's been getting the shaft his whole career here. All he does is produce more than whatever first round glamour pick is supposed to be better than him. I love Spiller's explosiveness and think he's a hell of a player, but Fred Jackson has the most unique ability of any running back I've seen here in a long time. He's not the fastest, nor the strongest, but he just gets it done. I think its a combination of elusiveness, patience, and just great football instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Everyone thought Fred was done two weeks ago hahaha. They said they were gonna use them both back there, I guess not. They didn't use summers to lead block. You have to get spiller the ball in space with screens and tosses. Fred is better between the tackles and pass blocking. C'mon Hackett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 CJ had a bad game and Fred stepped up. This doesn't mean bench CJ or limit him at all. Agreed. But between the tackles???? Spiller has never shown that ability. I would expect Hackett/Marrone to know that. And even if they didn't, it should have been apparent at halftime and triggered a change. That's what I found baffling. It wasn't working yet they kept going to it over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Everyone thought Fred was done two weeks ago hahaha. They said they were gonna use them both back there, I guess not. They didn't use summers to lead block. You have to get spiller the ball in space with screens and tosses. Fred is better between the tackles and pass blocking. C'mon Hackett! I remember those comments. Some of the people on this board are unbelievable. We have two good RB's on this roster. We should use them both, in whatever situation helps out the offense the most. No they didn't. and yes it would. I also didn't see Frank Summers in the game. CJ can use a lead blocker (actually so can Fred) and this is a mistake. The I formation worked well last year as well as some spread formations. You design things to the strengths of your players, they didn't do it in this game plan, IMO. The run plays yesterday especially to CJ were poorly called, he does need space or to get around the corner. He can run off tackle but not all of the time . He did look off his game too, hope he doesn't have a MD type of season (in light of his last couple of weeks). I agree with you. The only time I saw Frank Summers was on special teams. Having a FB in the offense could be very useful. Let's revisit this thread after Freddy's first fumble. Oh yeah, then he'll be old and a liability again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I remember those comments. Some of the people on this board are unbelievable. We have two good RB's on this roster. We should use them both, in whatever situation helps out the offense the most. I agree with you. The only time I saw Frank Summers was on special teams. Having a FB in the offense could be very useful. Oh yeah, then he'll be old and a liability again. Freddy: exceptionally good at finding space. CJ: exceptionally good IN space. Summers: a space maker. Seems like a logical fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 FredEx has run great behind some terrible offensive lines in the past. Some of those lines he and Marshawn ran behind were the worst in the NFL. Freddy would always find a way to pick up that extra yardage. CJ always seems to run out of bounds before the first down marker, where Fred will turn back toward the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 I'd really just like to see both guys have an equal opportunity to play, and if one guy is hot, see the ball more. If next week CJ seems unstoppable, leave him in till he pukes. I want to be sure people don't interpret my original post as a call to see Freddie take over, but rather leave him IN the game IF he's clearly the more productive guy that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The late changed their d play when spiller came out. That changed it a little for fred. They loosened up I want to know why we didn't put both on the field in some play action, in some read option. In some presnap CJ wide stuff. Clearly the pats d keyed on spiller. And it was apparent in the game. What's his name lined IP against him every time and that was enough to stop him. Clealr lane to CJ every time. Thanks to bianca. Mayo kept spiller in check. He could. It stop Fred Huh? Replying from phone? Damn auto correct... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) FJ has always ran with a big chip on his shoulder, even more so now, 22 Fred Jackson is still the heart and soul of the Buffalo Bills. (Thanks Mods) Edited September 14, 2013 by dog14787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 They are two different backs that will be better or worse matchups depending on the d they face. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I read that he's old & fat. Remember the conniptions here last season over CJ not getting 25 carries a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Remember the conniptions here last season over CJ not getting 25 carries a game? Last season or last month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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