K-9 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 When it was suggested here a week ago after he signed his tender that he may try to screw the Bills or get some type of revenge, people went bananas. Well, he hasn't even done anything now he can't play because of a foot injury? Good chance that here comes the hissy fit on Byrd's part, and if it isn't obvious he is done here after this year then nothing would make it obvious. I just can't believe this. It's one thing to have contempt for and screw over the front office, it's quite another when it's your teammates. I gotta believe that having grown up around the game, Byrd would know this more than anyone. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 has anyone considered the possibility that byrd's injury is legitimate? training camp injuries are pretty common. it's rather likely that it is. just don't get the rationale of many on this board. byrd tries to negotiate a better deal for himself and fails and he's evil. rw negotiates against the fans for 50 years and wins and folks here are upset at his accurate characterization in a deadspin satire. go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 has anyone considered the possibility that byrd's injury is legitimate? training camp injuries are pretty common. it's rather likely that it is. just don't get the rationale of many on this board. byrd tries to negotiate a better deal for himself and fails and he's evil. rw negotiates against the fans for 50 years and wins and folks here are upset at his accurate characterization in a deadspin satire. go figure... It's gotta be a real injury. And it makes sense to proceed with caution as well. Byrd has nothing at all to gain and everything to lose by malingering. I just can't see him doing that. Makes no sense on any level. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 That POS better be out there Week 1. Or what? You'll cry and moan like a petulant child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 has anyone considered the possibility that byrd's injury is legitimate? training camp injuries are pretty common. it's rather likely that it is. so far, no harm no foul. Tyrd was not going to play in the Detroit game anyways. we just have to wait and see how the regular season plays out. it's just not out of the realm of possibilities, that if Tyrd wants out, that his best way is to use minor injuries as a way to miss games. what Jairus Tyrd should of said is - hell no i'm not happy, I wanted the security of a long term deal. but i'm a professional and I will go out and play my best. the bills are still paying me a lot of money and I intend to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 so far, no harm no foul. Tyrd was not going to play in the Detroit game anyways. we just have to wait and see how the regular season plays out. it's just not out of the realm of possibilities, that if Tyrd wants out, that his best way is to use minor injuries as a way to miss games. what Jairus Tyrd should of said is - hell no i'm not happy, I wanted the security of a long term deal. but i'm a professional and I will go out and play my best. the bills are still paying me a lot of money and I intend to earn it. This would be career threatening behavior. And his value would plummet as a result. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This would be career threatening behavior. And his value would plummet as a result. GO BILLS!!! career threatening ?? I doubt it. first of all, no one but Jairus will really know the severity of his injuries. so anyone questioning his integrity will be guessing. as far as team doctors go, it's pretty easy to mislead them regarding pain threshold. Jairus is more than smart enough to game the system without hurting his reputation in the least. Jairus Tyrd is going to get paid, big time, with or without the Bills, no matter how many games he misses this year or next due to injury. it just may have to wait until the 2015 season, assuming the bills tag him in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 career threatening ?? I doubt it. first of all, no one but Jairus will really know the severity of his injuries. so anyone questioning his integrity will be guessing. as far as team doctors go, it's pretty easy to mislead them regarding pain threshold. Jairus is more than smart enough to game the system without hurting his reputation in the least. Jairus Tyrd is going to get paid, big time, with or without the Bills, no matter how many games he misses this year or next due to injury. it just may have to wait until the 2015 season, assuming the bills tag him in 2014. With all due respect, it just doesn't work that way in an NFL locker room. The severity of the injury will be very well known by the team and everyone on it. He will not be able to bullschitt his injury with other players who all play through pain and discomfort at one time or another. They will know the score and if he brings that on the field they will insist he get off it in favor of someone else who's willing to give 100% between the lines. You can't fake it on the field in the eyes of your teammates. If he's really not well enough to play, he won't. It's up to the coaches to get the best (read: healthiest) players out there. If he's injured, he can't BE out there. Byrd has to continue to play at a high level in order for him to cash in like he wants to. Whether he's hurt or is faking it will effect his ability to do just that. And his value decreases as a result. If he loses his credibility as well, it will plummet. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I wonder, do other teams have a difficult history of dealing with Parker clients or is it just the Bills? And, have the Bills ever had any Parker clients that didn't end up being headaches? Seems to me we should start avoiding his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 With all due respect, it just doesn't work that way in an NFL locker room. The severity of the injury will be very well known by the team and everyone on it. He will not be able to bullschitt his injury with other players who all play through pain and discomfort at one time or another. They will know the score and if he brings that on the field they will insist he get off it in favor of someone else who's willing to give 100% between the lines. You can't fake it on the field in the eyes of your teammates. If he's really not well enough to play, he won't. It's up to the coaches to get the best (read: healthiest) players out there. If he's injured, he can't BE out there. Byrd has to continue to play at a high level in order for him to cash in like he wants to. Whether he's hurt or is faking it will effect his ability to do just that. And his value decreases as a result. If he loses his credibility as well, it will plummet. GO BILLS!!! nonsense, the players are 100% in his corner. from the players perspective, he got screwed over by the bills by playing on a one year deal. in private, they are encouraging him to NOT risk his career by playing through an injury. the only thing 90% of these guys care about is getting paid. the win/loss record is a distant second. the only time winning becomes more important than money is when the athlete has already been paid huge amounts of money from previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I disagree. Byrd is a two-time pro-bowler and is tied for 3rd in most interceptions in the NFL since 2009. He has already proven himself in the NFL and other teams will jump on the opportunity to sign him. It's in his best interest to not get significantly injured this season so he can cash-in next season. A little "toe" injury is the perfect excuse to not play, get paid this season, and at the same time not have other teams question you next off-season. Again, this POS better play week 1. I gotta' agree with BB. Let's not forget that Byrd has the same hip condition as Percy Harvin so teams will already be wary of him medically. If he has an injury affected season he could end up getting less than half of what he and Parker are demanding in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 @buffalobills: #Bills S Jairus Byrd misses game to get 2nd opinion on foot http://t.co/jQFAeBC7uA (via @ChrisBrownBills) Yeah..money for nothing. Get your checks for free. Loser Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Yeah..money for nothing. Get your checks for free. Loser Boy. FYI, player checks are issued game by game in the regular season. He, just like the other starters except Nigel Bradham, wasn't playing in the meaningless 4th Preseason game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I wonder, do other teams have a difficult history of dealing with Parker clients or is it just the Bills? And, have the Bills ever had any Parker clients that didn't end up being headaches? Seems to me we should start avoiding his players. Parker was attracted to the Bills by their weak will. When Levy/Brandon took over the team they quickly set a bad precedent of granting players their freedom from contractual obligations. It wasn't just one or two things, in the span of about a year they granted trade requests of Eric Moulds, Willis McGahee and Takeo Spikes and promised to not re-franchise Nate Clements if he would play one more season at his tender. These are not the kind of things that "other teams" do. You can't let the inmates run the asylum. Just because they want to play somewhere that they can get a new and improved contract or where they have a better chance to win does not mean that you entertain that request. The effects of those decisions are still felt today. That opened the door for the Peters and Marshawn Lynch leveraged trades....it emboldened Aaron Schobel to try to force management into letting him just show up for games otherwise he would quit.......and now it is manifested again here with Byrd. Parker knows that if he applies to right pressure, Russ Brandon will crack. Such tactics aren't as effective on teams that don't allow the tail to wag the dog. I mean do you ever hear about the NY Giants getting worked like this? No, it happens because the agent sees the weakness and as long as the Bills keep caving Parker can expect a steady stream of Bills clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Parker was attracted to the Bills by their weak will. When Levy/Brandon took over the team they quickly set a bad precedent of granting players their freedom from contractual obligations. It wasn't just one or two things, in the span of about a year they granted trade requests of Eric Moulds, Willis McGahee and Takeo Spikes and promised to not re-franchise Nate Clements if he would play one more season at his tender. These are not the kind of things that "other teams" do. You can't let the inmates run the asylum. Just because they want to play somewhere that they can get a new and improved contract or where they have a better chance to win does not mean that you entertain that request. The effects of those decisions are still felt today. That opened the door for the Peters and Marshawn Lynch leveraged trades....it emboldened Aaron Schobel to try to force management into letting him just show up for games otherwise he would quit.......and now it is manifested again here with Byrd. Parker knows that if he applies to right pressure, Russ Brandon will crack. Such tactics aren't as effective on teams that don't allow the tail to wag the dog. I mean do you ever hear about the NY Giants getting worked like this? No, it happens because the agent sees the weakness and as long as the Bills keep caving Parker can expect a steady stream of Bills clients. and all of this is true, except I don't see the Bills cracking this time. they intend to play this out to their advantage. even if Tyrd acts up, they will still tag him next year, unless of course he is willing to sign what they view as a reasonable long term deal, which he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 FYI, player checks are issued game by game in the regular season. He, just like the other starters except Nigel Bradham, wasn't playing in the meaningless 4th Preseason game anyway. So your saying,if he doesn`t play. He won`t get paid. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 and all of this is true, except I don't see the Bills cracking this time. they intend to play this out to their advantage. even if Tyrd acts up, they will still tag him next year, unless of course he is willing to sign what they view as a reasonable long term deal, which he won't. I think you are right. I just have to believe that Brandon is smart enough to have learned from the plethora of mistakes he has been involved in. The question then is what will Parker and Byrd do when they realize that the tactics aren't going to work? I mean, even if he plays out this season with the abandon he did last year and manages to survive it, the Bills can still franchise he yet again. One thing I feel certain about......they can't trade him and let him get that big new contract he is seeking. I don't care if someone offered a late first round pick. If they do, the next guy is going to think he can pull the same BS. And the next guy might be a much more important player....like maybe the QB. The cycle has to end. They held their ground with Schobel but they undermined that by dealing Lynch. Now is the time to stop the nonsense altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 nonsense, the players are 100% in his corner. from the players perspective, he got screwed over by the bills by playing on a one year deal. in private, they are encouraging him to NOT risk his career by playing through an injury. the only thing 90% of these guys care about is getting paid. the win/loss record is a distant second. the only time winning becomes more important than money is when the athlete has already been paid huge amounts of money from previous years. nonsense, the players are 100% in his corner. from the players perspective, he got screwed over by the bills by playing on a one year deal. in private, they are encouraging him to NOT risk his career by playing through an injury. the only thing 90% of these guys care about is getting paid. the win/loss record is a distant second. the only time winning becomes more important than money is when the athlete has already been paid huge amounts of money from previous years. I agree with the nonsense part. You couldn't be more wrong about what happens between the lines on the field of play. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Or what? You'll cry and moan like a petulant child? You mean act like Byrd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I agree with the nonsense part. You couldn't be more wrong about what happens between the lines on the field of play. GO BILLS!!! can you name just one Franchised tagged player who ran afoul of his teammates and/or eventually didn't get his huge payday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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