eball Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) if the past is irrelevant you would want them both the same since you would have no data to base a decision on. Ha. It's irrelevant with respect to the Bills since the key players (HC, QB ) have no past in Buffalo. Edited July 12, 2013 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) You keep missing the point, which is, who would you want right now? The past is irrelevant. Rex/Sanchez vs Marrone/Kolb? I'd probably take Rex/Sanchez and hope I drafted EJ so I could release Sanchez. But, that's because I acknowledge the past (Rex's coaching experience vs Marrone's), and I tend to play it safe with that sort of thing, myself. If neither have any past whatsoever, then hell, it's a coinflip/grab bag situation. Hopefully Marrone ends up being the next NFL genius and not just another in a long string of Bills disappointments. Ha. It's irrelevant with respect to the Bills since the key players (HC, QB ) have no past in Buffalo. Kolb has NFL experience, at least. So I think it's fair to compare Sanchez and Kolb... and frankly that's like comparing **** to crap, as far as I'm concerned. But this all originated from me seeing the logic in placing the Jets above the Bills due to having more proven pieces at areas of importance, HC and QB. So really, saying the Bills parts have no past, is simply agreeing with my original sentiment. Edited July 13, 2013 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 You say that you patently disagree and then in the next sentence you agree? The point that I was making on perception was that it gives you an advantage when everything else is seemingly even. The Bills have traditionally had to overpay for guys or wait until their options run out. An example of a guy that they missed out on this year is Dansby. If the Ravens offered him that same contract he would have probably accepted it. (And yes, I realize that he went to Arizona but he was drafted there and had a level of comfort there. I just used the example because I thought that it was a good one). I was agreeing that good QB play usually takes place on winning teams. However there are more good QBs in the league right now than winning teams. You're using Dansby who took a crappy one year deal to play until their starting LB comes back from a 4 game suspension as an example of players not wanting to come to Buffalo? Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 You're using Dansby who took a crappy one year deal to play until their starting LB comes back from a 4 game suspension as an example of players not wanting to come to Buffalo? Try again. No, using that as an example of someone that would have accepted the Bills offer if he believed they were a contender. The Bills, like all losing teams have to overpay to attract free agents (or wait it out and hope no one else offers guys). That IS reality and why perception does matter. It is not as important at this time of year but perception matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Bazinga! Actually the Bills were being touted as a playoff team last year, or does that stuff not get past your filter? PTR By who???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 This is why these rankings are so dumb. At the end of last season we were #24 based on draft order. We haven't lost since, yet we lost 4 spots? WTF? I'm just going to wait til the games begin. The Nfl has a system to rank teams, it's called standings. The come right after the first game and aRe updated every week. That's what I go by. Anything else is just a beauty. COntest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 No, using that as an example of someone that would have accepted the Bills offer if he believed they were a contender. The Bills, like all losing teams have to overpay to attract free agents (or wait it out and hope no one else offers guys). That IS reality and why perception does matter. It is not as important at this time of year but perception matters. Bologna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Bologna I am still not sure what you are disagreeing with? Free Agents don't prefer winning teams? There is no reason to reason with the irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 http://espn.go.com/nfl/preview12/story/_/id/8295463/espn-experts-nfl-predictions-2012 NoSaint, quite a few ESPN writers, and others, had the Bills as a wild card team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Fair assessment this team is in transition despite some talent areas they are way too inexperienced at key positions to make a run at the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Perhaps the only thing more meaningless than draft prognostications is the annual parade of preseason rankings. Not that I think the analysis is off on the Bills just speaking to the category. Every year a couple of teams rise and a couple fall very unexpectedly. Generally, if you are set at QB and and avoid significant injuries to too many key players you will be in the top third. The rest of the so called analysis is sorting out the rest of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 http://espn.go.com/n...redictions-2012 NoSaint, quite a few ESPN writers, and others, had the Bills as a wild card team. So many experts predicted the winners of the Superbowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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