Ralph W. Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Explain Jacksonville for me please. Who are they? Oh the team that is going to be forced to play a game "maybe two in future" in London? Edited June 19, 2013 by EJ3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Of course maybe they were winning because their opponents didn't have extra time off before they played the Bills? Someone would have to check that out. As for the league doing the Bills a favor by having more late season games as away games - that also benefits the NFL as those games end up selling more tickets which increases the league revenue. Maybe someone should check out why Fitzpatrick couldn't accurately throw the ball more than 20 yards down the field; The limited amount of carries CJ Spiller got; the vanilla defense that gave up a record amount of yards over the past 2 seasons. Do you think that had anything to do with the Bills problems last year? Edited June 19, 2013 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 "Losers lose and make excuses--winners win." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 this is pure and unadulterated whining. the Bills have no reason to complain about a schedule that meets numerous franchise needs, particularly one that's back-loaded with games played away from Ralph Wilson Stadium. they spent the past two seasons complaining about how difficult it is to sellout games after Thanksgiving. now that the NFL meets that request, the Bills find another reason to complain. this is the definition of having gall. to get what you wanted and then complain about it. poor, Bills. this does not fly. jw ADD: odd, too, that when it comes to scheduling, the Eastern-based teams/fans' complaints also usually fail to take into account travel and time. take for example this year's Bills' schedule: they travel outside of the Eastern Time Zone twice by my count. their longest road trip is New Orleans, if i'm not mistaken. ... but "oh, the schedule is unfair." gimme a break. the schedule is what it is, providing most each and every team its advantages and disadvantages. I agree John. Are the Bills always going to complain when things don't go their way? Like you said, the Bills complained about having numerous games at the Ralph after Thansgiving because the poor weather conditions at that time of year was having an effect on ticket sales. The NFL granted the Bills wish this year, yet they are still complaining! Back in the late 80's thru the mid 90's, selling out the Ralph in December & January was never a problem because the team was winning. If the Bills would focus on having competent management & coaches running this organization, then they wouldn't need to come up with excuses for their shortcomings. Yeah, the Bills should be kissing the NFL's asses for scheduling just 2 of their 5 remaining post-Thanksgiving games at home, instead of...4 like last year. For that they deserve to be screwed in 5 other games this year. Makes perfect sense. !@#$ "winning will cure it." It's BS and as the article says, needs to be regulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/19/bills-complain-about-bye-week-scheduling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Oh but I think you can have it both ways. Take for example Cleveland (I just picked a random northern team, with poor play, that has poor attendance in December). Of the 5 games being played in December, 3 are away and 2 are home. Add to that they only play 2 games with teams coming off extended rest. I'd say thats pretty much compromising and having it both ways. EDIT: I'm not saying I agree with the Bills complaining about it via their own blogger. really, let's go all in then, and suggest that 28 teams can lodge complaints about the relatively easier schedules New England, Miami and the New York Jets have enjoyed for many of the past 12 seasons (note, i wrote 12) for the mere fact they get to play the Bills twice. ... i'm half-kidding only because there is much truth to that. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Yeah, the Bills should be kissing the NFL's asses for scheduling just 2 of their 5 remaining post-Thanksgiving games at home, instead of...4 like last year. For that they deserve to be screwed in 5 other games this year. Makes perfect sense. !@#$ "winning will cure it." It's BS and as the article says, needs to be regulated. Who the hell wants to pay money to sit at an NFL stadium (which is not cheap these days) to watch a team after Thanksgiving when you know they have no chance of making the playoffs at that point! It doesn't matter if you're at the Ralph or in a domed stadium, you're not going to sell out a stadium if your team is doing terrible (like the Bills have been for the past 13 years) and has no chance at making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) JW - I think I get your point, but then again I don't get your point. Are you expecting unbiased journalism from a team employee writing an article on the team's website? no, but you seem to pick up the bait, given the argument you proceed in proposing a potential conspiracy theory. jw No way to know this as chaging the Toronto game to say NE would require the entire NFL schedule to be modified. of course there's no knowing this. the point is, there are inherent restrictions to the Bills schedule that are different to other teams given the fact that the Bills are the only NFL team that annually plays a game in another city. and given the fact this is fact, would the Bills have a bigger complaint if they played New England -- not coming off a lengthy break -- in Toronto as opposed to playing New England coming off a lengthy break and hosting Atlanta in Toronto. keep up. jw Edited June 19, 2013 by john wawrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Who the hell wants to pay money to sit at an NFL stadium (which is not cheap these days) to watch a team after Thanksgiving when you know they have no chance of making the playoffs at that point! It doesn't matter if you're at the Ralph or in a domed stadium, you're not going to sell out a stadium if your team is doing terrible (like the Bills have been for the past 13 years) and has no chance at making the playoffs. Even if the Bills were winning, they'd still like to have fewer home games after Thanksgiving. The point though is that there are usually 5 games after Thanksgiving and teams should ideally play 3 at home one year and 2 at home the next. The Bills played 4 last year and will play 2 this year. Therefore the NFL did them no favors, except not screwing them again, but screwed them in other ways. So they have reason to gripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Even if the Bills were winning, they'd still like to have fewer home games after Thanksgiving. The point though is that there are usually 5 games after Thanksgiving and teams should ideally play 3 at home one year and 2 at home the next. The Bills played 4 last year and will play 2 this year. Therefore the NFL did them no favors, except not screwing them again, but screwed them in other ways. So they have reason to gripe. There needs to be more analysis done to determine how many teams have been getting a raw deal in regards to the schedule, home games after Thanksgiving, etc... and for how long it's been going on. At the moment, 2 years in a row doesn't seem like much to complain about, but if it continually happens year after year, then there definitely is a problem,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So to summarize, the schedulers hate the Bills, the refs hate the Bills, King Roger hates the Bills, the media hates the Bills. Did I forget anyone? I expect to see whining from some fans, but to see it from the Bills media outlet a month before camp even opens is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So to summarize, the schedulers hate the Bills, the refs hate the Bills, King Roger hates the Bills, the media hates the Bills. Did I forget anyone? I expect to see whining from some fans, but to see it from the Bills media outlet a month before camp even opens is sad. I agree. I guess it's everyone else's fault for all the years of bad management decisions, bad drafts, bad player signings, not getting a franchise QB, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 funny that i missed this in reading the complaint story the first time. in the middle of it, there's a "related link," offering fans an opportunity to buy tickets for this season. i find this somewhat humorous: Bills shake fist at NFL for unfair schedule (please buy tickets). jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 no, but you seem to pick up the bait, given the argument you proceed in proposing a potential conspiracy theory. jw of course there's no knowing this. the point is, there are inherent restrictions to the Bills schedule that are different to other teams given the fact that the Bills are the only NFL team that annually plays a game in another city. and given the fact this is fact, would the Bills have a bigger complaint if they played New England -- not coming off a lengthy break -- in Toronto as opposed to playing New England coming off a lengthy break and hosting Atlanta in Toronto. keep up. jw For someone imperiously telling others to keep up, you didn't exhibit much comprehension of my post. I was going to spell out an explanation like you did above, but then I realized you probably wouldn't read it anyway, so I'll just call you a doody-head and move on with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 funny that i missed this in reading the complaint story the first time. in the middle of it, there's a "related link," offering fans an opportunity to buy tickets for this season. i find this somewhat humorous: Bills shake fist at NFL for unfair schedule (please buy tickets). Yeah, but there are only TWO home games after Thanksgiving. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Just took a look at a very small sample size of the Patriots schedule since 2009. They have faced one team coming off of a bye since then. This doesn't account for Monday/Thursday Night games but like I said, very small sample size. I'm getting curious to extrapolate these numbers more to see how it plays out. Either way, scheduling sucks but so have the Bills. Complaining about it won't make them win more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) I think people read what they want to read. The article says there should be regulation on the schedule. That say a team should only play, say, a maximum of three teams coming off an extended time period off. The stuff about a conspiracy isn't in the article. Some of you people look for ways to take things personally or grind an axe. How ridiculous would it be to say that you go in and ask for Christmas week off and that because you asked for Christmas off, you should not be able to ask for any other holiday off. I also like the one guy who doesn't understand technology and is complaining about the related link which probably isn't even something the guy writing the article can change. LOL Edited June 19, 2013 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 this is pure and unadulterated whining. the Bills have no reason to complain about a schedule that meets numerous franchise needs, particularly one that's back-loaded with games played away from Ralph Wilson Stadium. they spent the past two seasons complaining about how difficult it is to sellout games after Thanksgiving. now that the NFL meets that request, the Bills find another reason to complain. this is the definition of having gall. to get what you wanted and then complain about it. poor, Bills. this does not fly. jw ADD: odd, too, that when it comes to scheduling, the Eastern-based teams/fans' complaints also usually fail to take into account travel and time. take for example this year's Bills' schedule: they travel outside of the Eastern Time Zone twice by my count. their longest road trip is New Orleans, if i'm not mistaken. ... but "oh, the schedule is unfair." gimme a break. the schedule is what it is, providing most each and every team its advantages and disadvantages. I think your off base here. I think the Bills are getting the short end of the stick on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph W. Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 People should be excited for this. If the Bills win games then no one can use an easy schedule excuse. http://www.thesportsgeek.com/sports-betting/strategy/nfl-bye-week/ Some bye week stuff. For betting purposes but good information. (Old post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I agree. I guess it's everyone else's fault for all the years of bad management decisions, bad drafts, bad player signings, not getting a franchise QB, etc... ESPN hates the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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