jaybee Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Poor title, but if anyone really thought Minnesota traded to 8 a month before the draft to somehow promise they got a guy that could be gone at 7, or last til 25.... Well... That's also poor judgement by them Pretty easy to say that now. After the fact. I don't know if there's a way to "ignore" a poster here but I'll look and if there is....Astrobot will be my 1st. I'm sorry folks, this guy Astrobot is a stand-up comic act. I've seen enough. Not buying his "in-the know" nonsense. For me, starting this thread as fact seals the deal on this so-called expert. Edited March 23, 2013 by jaybee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'd love the trade down, but I'm not at all high on Leveon Bell. I love the idea of a power back but he doesn't really deliver the kind of punch when he hits the pile you expect from a guy his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section242 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hypothetically if they were looking to draft Patterson I think Buffalo would be one of the teams they'd probably look to jump ahead of also. As for a guy to replace Harvin as their number 1 wr they just signed Jennings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Pretty easy to say that now. After the fact. I don't know if there's a way to "ignore" a poster here but I'll look and if there is....Astrobot will be my 1st. I'm sorry folks, this guy Astrobot is a stand-up comic act. I've seen enough. Not buying his "in-the know" nonsense. For me, starting this thread as fact seals the deal on this so-called expert. That will be your loss. I sometimes disagree w/ his player assessments, but he is a valued poster who adds a lot to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I cannot imagine a case where this would happen. Not the trade, the draft working like that. There is no way two QB's will not be taken in the top 20 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That will be your loss. I sometimes disagree w/ his player assessments, but he is a valued poster who adds a lot to the board. Agree 100%... Astro's a good dude...He definitely sparks conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Vikes signed Jennings so the need for a WR isn't as bad although this trade up for them would be nasty I also don't think Geno makes it out of the top 5 so obviously won't last to 23 I'd be all for this trade down though which I'd like better then a trade up....can still get Glennon, Bray, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I dont understand why people still post this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Pretty easy to say that now. After the fact. I don't know if there's a way to "ignore" a poster here but I'll look and if there is....Astrobot will be my 1st. I'm sorry folks, this guy Astrobot is a stand-up comic act. I've seen enough. Not buying his "in-the know" nonsense. For me, starting this thread as fact seals the deal on this so-called expert. I agree the thread title is misleading, but you are overreacting. Astrobot does not claim to "know" what the Bills--or any other team--will do on draft day. He and others simulate possible scenarios. They make those scenarios as accurate as they can, taking into account teams' needs, players' grades, etc. (Though I agree with San Jose Bills Fan that they probably underestimate QBs' perceived value on draft day.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Wait, don't you mean If? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 it is the pod virus that eventually makes a copy of your whole body and replaces you but nothing creepy or anything like that Well that's a relief. I'll have another burger over here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Minnesota has the #22 and #25 pick in the draft (1480 pts. on the trade chart). They want a WR in this draft--remember they traded Percy Harvin to the Seattle Seahawks. Cordarelle Patterson is sitting there when it's the Bills' pick at #8, and the call comes in. Nix agrees to swap the #8 (1400 pts.) for the trade-down. Minnesota takes Cordarelle. I fed this into the DraftTek Simulator and the resulting draft looks like this, with some other considerations at various picks:1 8 Minnesota Cordarrelle Patterson WRF Tennessee1 23 Buffalo Geno Smith QB West Virginia P2 +6 Value1 25 Buffalo Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame P3O +3 Value (Trufant CB)2 41 Buffalo DeAndre Hopkins WRF Clemson 3 71 Buffalo Jonathan Bostic ILB Florida4 102 Buffalo Devin Taylor OLB34 South Carolina (Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati , Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State)5 136 Buffalo Lavar Edwards OLB34 LSU (Marcus Davis WRF Virginia Tech, Landry Jones QB Oklahoma)6 167 Buffalo Malliciah Goodman DE34 Clemson (Le'Veon Bell RBF Michigan State, J.C. Tretter OG Cornell )We win in any trade down. In this case, if Geno Smith makes it to 8, he slides quite a bit further. I'd take Trufant at #25 and take Travis Kelce later at TE, and OLB Lavar Edwards. I'd also seriously consider Le'Veon Bell even if I have to wait a year to use him--you'd have thunder and lightning in Spiller-Bell for years, with Smith at QB, Eifert-Chandler at TE and Hopkins-Johnson at WR. Bostic is a solid run defender with some versatility between ILB and OLB. I like the idea of trading down & getting another pick. Hopefully Geno will be gone by then so the Bills will avoid the disastrous mistake of drafting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Pretty easy to say that now. After the fact. I don't know if there's a way to "ignore" a poster here but I'll look and if there is....Astrobot will be my 1st. I'm sorry folks, this guy Astrobot is a stand-up comic act. I've seen enough. Not buying his "in-the know" nonsense. For me, starting this thread as fact seals the deal on this so-called expert. You'll be missing out. Astro is great around draft time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Pretty easy to say that now. After the fact. I don't know if there's a way to "ignore" a poster here but I'll look and if there is....Astrobot will be my 1st. I'm sorry folks, this guy Astrobot is a stand-up comic act. I've seen enough. Not buying his "in-the know" nonsense. For me, starting this thread as fact seals the deal on this so-called expert. In your short time here, you have been a pretty decent addition for a new poster (from what I have seen). It would be a shame if you over-reacted like this instead of just relaxing, understand that we are just chatting on the internet, got on board, and contributed some constructive criticism/opinions and your own ideas. Astrobot doesnt claim to be an expert on scouting or what the teams will do. He provides a service and a good start of discussions. If Astrobot is the first and only poster you have on ignore, after what Ive seen posted around here lately, that would say a lot more about you than Astro. Lighten up kiddo :beer: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With that being said... Agreed with SJBF, Draftek is losing a lot of cred with the way they have the QBs ranked. No way we get Geno Smith at 23. Also agreed with NoSaint that if Smith is there at 8 the Vikes can suck it, and we take Geno there. Outside of that one pick, I like the rest of the draft. Im a huge fan of DeAndre Hopkins. Who else could we get at #23 given that Smith will be gone? Maybe Nassib make sense there (if he's still available)? Edited March 23, 2013 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 With that being said... Agreed with SJBF, Draftek is losing a lot of cred with the way they have the QBs ranked. No way we get Geno Smith at 23. Outside of that one pick, I like the rest of the draft. Im a huge fan of DeAndre Hopkins. Who else could we get at #23 given that Smith will be gone? Maybe Nassib make sense there (if he's still available)? I dont doubt Geno is the 23rd best player (which may be how they are ranking this draft, purely on rank) But youre right, with the premium on QBs, Geno doesn't make it past the Jets at 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Drafttek is looking like nothing more than bleacher report with this crap. What a waste of bandwidth. Tough to lend credibility to a system that is not even close to being based in reality. I guess you guys are giving up on any and all semblance of accuracy Astrobot? If Geno Smith falls to #8, you ignore Minnesota's call and calmly turn in the card with Geno's name on it. Edited March 23, 2013 by Ramius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiganSweaterGuy Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 If Geno is there the Bills will have to take him. I didn't initially want him, but I am warming up to the idea. However, if Nix and co. are set with another QB higher then trading back is the best solution. We only have 6 picks, and a roster with a lot holes at the moment so trading back would be great regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Didn't the vikes just sign Greg Jennings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 IMO, this would be a very good move.......but with two strong provisos. There would need to be 4 QBs that are going to go in the 1st round(seems likely to me).......and more importantly that the Bills rate all four of those QBs to be of similar potential. Furthering to that, if there is one(or two) QB who is rated higher than the others, and the Bills miss out on him(them) by the #8 pick(unable to trade up etc)......then again I would say trading down is a preferable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Greg Cosell ranks Nassib the best QB in the draft. If he can be had at #41 I say take BPA at # 8. If Smith or Milliner is there at 8 there should be willing trade partners to move down and still take a QB in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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