bbb Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not really. So cryptic the last couple days. Not really what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Based on what is known right now, I would say that its pretty clear he was not in on it and was fooled. There are so many others speaking of being duped by the same two people, including a guy on the Cardinals. Many people are questioning Teo's comments of having met in person...well, when you are a 22 year old Heisman Candidate on a National Championship contending team, maybe its just a little embarrassing for him to admit they met online. I know people who did eHarmony and got great releationships and it was still hard for them to tell people how they met. So not unusual for a kid like him to just say they met first in person. I tend to agree with you. When you add up all the little things like how Teo is supposedly very naive and rarely went out. Then you can see that this mormon kid (even as a super stud LB) probably fell easily for a chick online. Now add to this that a girl was alledgedly in on the hoax and spoke to him on the phone...so he has emails and chats/texts, twitter and has phone calls with a real woman. It all must seem pretty "real". Yeah i can see why he'd be embarrassed to admit he never met her in person. I'm just curious now about the timeline and if he lied about after he knew it was a hoax. Also, the longer he stays silent, the more it seems like he was in on it, at least to some degree. If he was a complete victim, he should just spill it, yesterday. Now it kinda' seems like he wants to get his ducks in a row and have his story down before coming out. If you're a victim just be honest, people will forgive him and probably feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 ESPN OTL is reporting Manti Te'o was the Victims of the Hoax & that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo told a friend it was a Game She said Tuiasosopo gave her the tearful confession and account of how he played what he said was at first a game on the unsuspecting Te'o. And, she said, he told her that it wasn't the first time he had done it what he said was at first a game on the unsuspecting Te'o. And, she said, he told her that it wasn't the first time he had done it. "He (Ronaiah) told me that Manti was not involved at all, he was a victim. ... The girlfriend was a lie, the accident was a lie, the leukemia was a lie," said the woman. "He was crying, he was literally crying, he's like 'I know, I know what I have to do.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8857057/friend-says-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-confessed-manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax Looks like Tuiasosopo and his female cousin were behind this and other similar hoaxes. Tweet history from 2 people who knew it was a hoax well before the dead spin article. I wonder if "ceeweezy51" is espn's source for this article. Jayr knew early as September, ceeweezy starts chiming in on dec-12, which would be consistent with the confession made to her early December http://everyfacetofthegame.blogspot.sg/2013/01/catfished.html Edited January 18, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Tweet history from 2 people who knew it was a hoax well before the dead spin article. I wonder if "ceeweezy51" is espn's source for this article http://everyfacetofthegame.blogspot.sg/2013/01/catfished.html i posted these accounts in full yesterday - so about 20 pages back. sounds like these are the people that keep getting mentioned as remembering the name and blowing it up. happened right before ronaiah/the girl caved on December 6th. likely heard the story in the lead up to the award shows. links again for those curious https://mobile.twitt...eweezy51/tweets https://mobile.twitt.../jayRahz/tweets https://mobile.twitt...AMM90745/tweets Edited January 18, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 ESPN OTL is reporting Manti Te'o was the Victims of the Hoax & that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo told a friend it was a Game Seems convenient, but maybe Te'o is that dumb and naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) And there's the female that makes literally damn near any lie possible if teo wants to believe it. Male and female friends and family that know "his gf," a female for the phone etc... Coupled with who ronaiah was (son of a preacher and major player in the Samoan football world) and the other story that confirmed he also took a niece to a real life meet up to confirm his story and its elaborate enough that someone could get caught All the blanks are starting to be filled in. Question I have now is why the female cousin phoned manti on dec-6 saying she wanted to continue the relationship? Did she just to mess with his mind some more? had she become attached to him? Did she feel guilty and want to fess up, especially since ronaiah was now confessing to others ? A next shoe to drop will be exposing the name of that cousin. Edited January 18, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Seems convenient, but maybe Te'o is that dumb and naive. Yup...pretty much as dumb and naive as most people are at 21. Just because they appear to be larger than life on TV doesn't mean they are any more savy about life than any other college kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yup...pretty much as dumb and naive as most people are at 21. Just because they appear to be larger than life on TV doesn't mean they are any more savy about life than any other college kid. I suppose. I guess I work with sneaky, tech-savvy NYC college kids, though. Chuck Klosterman killin' it on Grantland. it's difficult to understand how Manti Te'o could travel to Hawaii to visit his "girlfriend" without actually seeing her, unless he's just a profoundly confused person. Going to Hawaii to see a girl and then merely texting with her (the whole time you're there) is the equivalent of taking the Wonderlic Test and scoring a negative 36. Gladwell: So what is so fantastic about the Manti Te'o story? It is all three narratives, all in one. It'sLove Story meets Icarus meets inspirational outsider. It wasn't enough that Manti's love affair be doomed, that his girlfriend had leukemia, and that he drew from her death the inspiration to go out and get 12 tackles in the crucial defeat of Michigan State. She also had to be severely injured in a car accident. It's a combo platter! It's so over-the-top I am in awe. Klosterman: The only things we know about "The Real Manti Te'o" are (a) what the media tells us, and (b) what he says about himself in public. We don't really view him as a person; he's more like a movie character who happens to exist in reality (and his words and actions are the plot of the film). As a result, our feelings about him tend to be devoid of nuance. We only know a handful of things about who he is, so that handful gets amplified. He becomes a metaphor for his actions. So we're not passing judgment on him, even though that's what it looks like; we're really passing judgment on the act itself (by directing our vitriol at the individual). In other words, if someone changes their personal opinion on Te'o (or Lance Armstrong) in the wake of new evidence, they're really just positioning themselves as being "against" the specific sin of lying to the public. It's only tangentially related to the man himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's one of the most, if not the most bizarre sports story I've ever heard. If Manti got duped, I feel so bad for him. It's about time he goes public with his story Well he can take some comfort with his rebound girlfriend. Pretty solid! http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/report_dated_actual_girl_shortly_e6Za5dt8t85hGjX3Xrw9dJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well he can take some comfort with his rebound girlfriend. Pretty solid! http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/report_dated_actual_girl_shortly_e6Za5dt8t85hGjX3Xrw9dJ FAKE! I don't think they let girlfriends on the field during games, plus if you look close you can see where they photoshopped her next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well he can take some comfort with his rebound girlfriend. Pretty solid! http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/report_dated_actual_girl_shortly_e6Za5dt8t85hGjX3Xrw9dJ Page had a nice link to Eva longorias nip slip pics. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well he can take some comfort with his rebound girlfriend. Pretty solid! http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/report_dated_actual_girl_shortly_e6Za5dt8t85hGjX3Xrw9dJ Wow, this guy wasted no time. His dead gf was barely even cold before jumping in bed with a new warm one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So cryptic the last couple days. Not really what? You have to follow along. It was in reference to the post above mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I suppose. I guess I work with sneaky, tech-savvy NYC college kids, though. Chuck Klosterman killin' it on Grantland. Gladwell: Klosterman: I love Klosterman--- and Gladwell's no slouch! This Grantland correspondence piece is a gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I tend to agree with you. When you add up all the little things like how Teo is supposedly very naive and rarely went out. Then you can see that this mormon kid (even as a super stud LB) probably fell easily for a chick online. Now add to this that a girl was alledgedly in on the hoax and spoke to him on the phone...so he has emails and chats/texts, twitter and has phone calls with a real woman. It all must seem pretty "real". Yeah i can see why he'd be embarrassed to admit he never met her in person. I'm just curious now about the timeline and if he lied about after he knew it was a hoax. Also, the longer he stays silent, the more it seems like he was in on it, at least to some degree. If he was a complete victim, he should just spill it, yesterday. Now it kinda' seems like he wants to get his ducks in a row and have his story down before coming out. If you're a victim just be honest, people will forgive him and probably feel sorry for him. Transparency would be the best option, wouldn't it? Just confirm he never really met her face to face, etc. I would think he'd have been more pissed than embarrassed when getting a call from a "resurrected girlfriend". He may have embellished things along the way, but that embarrassment seems to pale (hugely) in comparison to realizing a person you had feelings for has made a public moron out of you, no? Perhaps he still is emotionally confused about how he feels about this woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-tough-questions-will-come-from-nfl-scouts-011813 Another general manager who spoke Friday with FOXSports.com believes Te’o is one of the best inside linebacker prospects entering the league in some time. He also said Te’o will remain a first-round pick unless “something really, really messed up” is revealed about the hoax. The GM, though, is curious to see how Te’o handles explaining what has transpired. “Part of me wants the kid to come out, be a man and say, ‘Hey, it ended up being a hoax. I’m a linebacker. At my core I’m a meathead ball-buster. I got carried away and I apologize,’ ” the general manager said. “Maybe that would be simplifying it, but instead so far he’s trying to come across as naïve. That’s a little funky in itself. “You’ve got to look through all this and make a judgment. If it’s a lying and major fabrication issue, you need to determine the depth and duplicity of it. In light of what’s going on with Lance Armstrong, we all know the best way to do this.” http://deadspin.com/5977235/heres-a-photo-of-manti-teo-with-ronaiah-tuiasosopos-sister-the-night-before-the-notre-dame+usc-game?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Here’s A Photo Of Manti Te’o With Ronaiah Tuiasosopo’s Sister The Night Before The Notre Dame-USC Game This photo, provided to us by a friend of the Tuiasosopos, was taken on Nov. 23, 2012—the night before the Notre Dame-USC game. It shows Ronaiah Tuiasosopo's younger sister, known as Pookah, with Manti Te'o. (According to Manti's uncle Alema Te'o, Pookah supposedly posed as Lennay Kekua's cousin.) Geeze... http://deadspin.com/5977243/newspaper-lennay-called-manti-teo-in-december-and-said-shed-faked-her-death-to-elude-drug-dealers Manti Te'o has told family and friends that the woman who was the voice of his fictitious girlfriend "Lennay Kekua" called him in December and said she had to fake her own death months earlier to elude drug dealers, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser has learned. The woman, who has yet to be identified, tried to re-engage a relationship with Te‘o months after she supposedly had died of leukemia in early September, the Notre Dame All-American linebacker has told the people close to him. The account was shared with the Star-Advertiser by a source close to the Te‘o family. According to the account, Te'o asked the woman to transmit a photo to him with a date stamp, which she did, but this did not allay his suspicions and he later told his family and Notre Dame officials about being scammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This photo, provided to us by a friend of the Tuiasosopos, was taken on Nov. 23, 2012—the night before the Notre Dame-USC game. It shows Ronaiah Tuiasosopo's younger sister, known as Pookah, with Manti Te'o. (According to Manti's uncle Alema Te'o, Pookah supposedly posed as Lennay Kekua's cousin.) Geeze... http://deadspin.com/5977243/newspaper-lennay-called-manti-teo-in-december-and-said-shed-faked-her-death-to-elude-drug-dealers Manti Te'o has told family and friends that the woman who was the voice of his fictitious girlfriend "Lennay Kekua" called him in December and said she had to fake her own death months earlier to elude drug dealers, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser has learned. The woman, who has yet to be identified, tried to re-engage a relationship with Te‘o months after she supposedly had died of leukemia in early September, the Notre Dame All-American linebacker has told the people close to him. The account was shared with the Star-Advertiser by a source close to the Te‘o family. According to the account, Te'o asked the woman to transmit a photo to him with a date stamp, which she did, but this did not allay his suspicions and he later told his family and Notre Dame officials about being scammed. Geez, faked her death to evade drug dealers? So, even drug dealers were after a fake person. This just cannot get any stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Geez, faked her death to evade drug dealers? So, even drug dealers were after a fake person. This just cannot get any stranger. I have a feeling the drug dealers may have been fake too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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