Fixxxer Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I still don't see malice in the hit. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/video-suh-kicks-again-thanksgiving-day-220931387--nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I still don't see malice in the hit. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/video-suh-kicks-again-thanksgiving-day-220931387--nfl.html Do you think his leg, naturally falling, moves in that arc? To me, physics says he reached it out on purpose. His leg doesn't accidentally follow that path. What did he reach it for? The only explanation I find is to kick schaub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) First look, i thought it was incidental. But upon further review, not so sure. It sure looks like he gives an extra kick at the end Fine coming? Edited November 23, 2012 by dhg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Watch the last part of him swinging his leg around, then suddenly points his toe in the direction and aims down to kick the groin area - spot on the Dingus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Watch the last part of him swinging his leg around, then suddenly points his toe in the direction and aims down to kick the groin area - spot on the Dingus! And what sold me is a split second before the foot point was his head looking dead at schaub. Even if the exact location was accidental he was certainly going for some contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Suh should have a stale footlong "Italian herbs and cheese" wrapped in sandpaper (heavy grit) probed in his anal Orpheus, if he has a toe on Dingus fetish as it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Fine coming? Personally I doubt that he gets fined unless he says something stupid. It was purposefully done but it's not something they can prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Do you think his leg, naturally falling, moves in that arc? To me, physics says he reached it out on purpose. His leg doesn't accidentally follow that path. What did he reach it for? The only explanation I find is to kick schaub. HIs body is kind of rolling to the left and so the leg whip feels like a natural movement to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 NoSaint = spot on. It was equivalent to driving a qb w/ extra shove to the ground, once already on the ground. There was def. an extra kick and was directly aimed for the man jewels. He's a great defensive player, just a dirt ball. Beerball, since when do they have to prove anything. Goodell is the so called "proof". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 so as he"s being spun down and falling to the ground he has enough body control and awareness to kick shaub in the beanbag? Sorry, i dont buy it. like i said before if it were anyone else, like watt for example, it wouldnt have gotten the press that it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I don't think he intended to hit him in the groin but I def think he whipped his leg around as a lot of defenders seem to do He recoiled his leg and hit dead nuts on.....He wasnt aimin for his foot....lol..He has a fetish problem with kickin people in the nads...Could be worse I guess, maybe not tho...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) HIs body is kind of rolling to the left and so the leg whip feels like a natural movement to me. Leg whip, natural. Agreed there. But there's a pause and recoil effect at the very end of the arc of the whip where it stops and changes direction from the natural loop it follows the rest of the way. Extension at the knee turning it from a swinging motion to a jab motion is an intentional muscular move and there's no answer other than trying to get a little extra on schaub. Even if where it landed was dumb luck (very possible) hitting him in the thigh, gut, a hand on follow through.... He wanted his foot to hit schaub. Edited November 23, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 so as he"s being spun down and falling to the ground he has enough body control and awareness to kick shaub in the beanbag? Sorry, i dont buy it. like i said before if it were anyone else, like watt for example, it wouldnt have gotten the press that it has. He's an elite athlete so it's not unlikely that he could have enough body control to make a kicking motion towards the QB. He may have only been aiming for contact with Schaub and happened to kick him in his beanbag. The motion of his leg looks far from natural to me. If in that situation, what would seem natural to me would be a sort of tuck and roll, not extend leg and point toe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 He's an elite athlete so it's not unlikely that he could have enough body control to make a kicking motion towards the QB. He may have only been aiming for contact with Schaub and happened to kick him in his beanbag. The motion of his leg looks far from natural to me. If in that situation, what would seem natural to me would be a sort of tuck and roll, not extend leg and point toe. And like I was saying there's almost a split second pause where his leg just totally changes course as he gets to the end of his roll. Instead of following into his own body it shoots out. Live I tried to justify it might be trying to gain balance or something but it doesn't match the physics of his body. It does match his eyes catching where schaub was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I still don't see malice in the hit. http://sports.yahoo....31387--nfl.html First off, there's a difference between malice and intent. Secondly, that was both IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 We can't read his mind so we won't know until he talks about it. All we have to go on is past experience and he has a history of being a vindictive and dirty player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 he's not the dirtiest player in the game for nothing. Does this constantly, I guess the two game suspension last year didn't teach him again. The NFL should suspend him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Upon further review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I think Marino said at halftime he'd never shake Suh's hand because of his lack of respect. Went on to say in his day he'd be first in line to shake Bruce's or Reggie White's hand and vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 We can't read his mind so we won't know until he talks about it. All we have to go on is past experience and he has a history of being a vindictive and dirty player. here is last years famous "stomp" excuse..... "My intention was not to kick anybody, as I did not, removing myself," he said. "I was on top of a guy, being pulled down, and trying to get up off the ground -- and why you see me pushing his helmet down, because I'm trying to remove myself from the situation, and as I'm getting up, I'm getting pushed, so I'm getting myself on balance." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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