apuszczalowski Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 You might as well then just eliminate the kicker position. Kickoffs now are almost always touchbacks, now eliminating the PATs would make the position useless. Why not just make a TD 7 points, and have every team start on the 20 after every TD and to start the game/2nd half? Basically you would be holding a roster spot for someone who can kick a fieldgoal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO'14 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 How about no kickoffs! Now that the league has moved up the kick, I find the start of games so boring! It used to be the highlight of my day. THE OPENING KICKOFF! Now its the opening kneel down to start the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Viewing it in a player safety context is ridiculous. But I wouldn't mind seeing it eliminated just because it's all but pointless (see what I did there?-). Although I do like having several free minutes to make a drink/grab a snack/catch a smoke/do a chore between the moment somebody scores a TD to the time they actually line up to run another offensive play. I can't even remember the last extra point I actually watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 If we take away PATs how are we supposed to know when to start the Shout! song?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Eliminate hits on quarterbacks. Make them wear red jerseys and have defenders count to 5 mississipi before they can blitz. Infact make NFL defenseman tie their hands behind their back eliminating tackling. Eliminate punts, kickoffs, 3rd and shorts...I mean just give teams 1st downs. Eliminate fumbles people get hurt in those pile ups. Did I miss anything? The NFL is turning into a very boring game due to some ridiculous rule changes as is. Â Yes, you missed blocking. Remember Mike Utley? Clearly blocking is too dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Letting teams opt for an automatic point might reduce the opportunities for TV commercials. Can't have that. Â Yep. It's a natural spot to add another network break and pad the ad revenue. Â If we take away PATs how are we supposed to know when to start the Shout! song?!? Â LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Â Â Kicking a 52 yarder for 1 point is absurd. Also, going for two from the 35 would never happen. If it ain't broke don't fix it, and it's definitely not broke. No going for 2 still takes place from the 2. As for xtra point, my earlier post what I meant was make it a 35 yarder (I.e. ball on 18), not kick from 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 You might as well then just eliminate the kicker position. Kickoffs now are almost always touchbacks, now eliminating the PATs would make the position useless. Why not just make a TD 7 points, and have every team start on the 20 after every TD and to start the game/2nd half? Basically you would be holding a roster spot for someone who can kick a fieldgoal.... Â I think it's a silly proposal to start with but fgs would still be a big deal. Â And folks need to get less upset about what one Internet chump at yahoo has to say to get attention. The "oh cause of the pats we suddenly have to change the rule" crowd was a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 At a time when the NFL is so concerned about player safety, why does the league continue to have conversion kicks?  Since the start of the 2009 season, all but 22 of 3,186 extra points have been converted, according to Elias Sports Bureau. That's 99.3 percent.  This doesn't get in the way of the two-point conversion rule. The rule can simply be amended to say that a team can opt for one point automatically or choose to go for two, getting only six points for a touchdown if a two-point attempt fails.  http://sports.yahoo....-212235294.html  Also need to eliminate field goals too. Football is meant to be played by running and throwing the ball not by kicking the ball through some sticks, who even thought of that idea.  The 20 yard line would be the 3 point line and if you can get to the endzone you get other four points for a TD (or 3 if 2 point conversion is desired).  this would bring a lot more excitement to the game as way more teams would go for it on fourth down, which would also mean less punts too and teams getting pinned in tight to the endzone for more safeties.  All in all it would make the game better and more exciting, which everyone from the League to players to fans would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Forget PAT kicks. What about awarding 1 point for kicking the opposing QB in the groin? Too easy perhaps- how about the groin kick only scores if the QB still has the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 An automatic point? Â Why doesn't every team just get a magic point just for showing up? No thanks. Â I would be happier with more 2 pt conversion attempts, as well as more 4th down tries, and fewer punts, though. Â see my post above. Â Eliminate hits on quarterbacks. Make them wear red jerseys and have defenders count to 5 mississipi before they can blitz. Infact make NFL defenseman tie their hands behind their back eliminating tackling. Eliminate punts, kickoffs, 3rd and shorts...I mean just give teams 1st downs. Eliminate fumbles people get hurt in those pile ups. Did I miss anything? The NFL is turning into a very boring game due to some ridiculous rule changes as is. Â arena league coming up :sick: Â You might as well then just eliminate the kicker position. Kickoffs now are almost always touchbacks, now eliminating the PATs would make the position useless. Why not just make a TD 7 points, and have every team start on the 20 after every TD and to start the game/2nd half? Basically you would be holding a roster spot for someone who can kick a fieldgoal.... Â get rid of the kicker all together, make the punter kick off eliminating a roster spot for non football players. Â Viewing it in a player safety context is ridiculous. But I wouldn't mind seeing it eliminated just because it's all but pointless (see what I did there?-). Although I do like having several free minutes to make a drink/grab a snack/catch a smoke/do a chore between the moment somebody scores a TD to the time they actually line up to run another offensive play. I can't even remember the last extra point I actually watched. Â hey you can pause the TV now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 hey you can pause the TV now  I'm one of those hoary old throwbacks who hasn't bothered with any of that Tivo tomfoolery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'm one of those hoary old throwbacks who hasn't bothered with any of that Tivo tomfoolery. Â got get that man, you know many games you can watch with those things ... a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRONK SPIKE! Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Taking away the XP is not the answer... Â What's interesting is that you used to have to make the PAT to get the 6 points from the TD, if you failed you got 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I agree. I lost a fantasy game this year by half a point when my kicker missed a PAT and I got negative 2 points instead of the 1 for the kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan da Man Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 If we eliminate the act of kicking the ball, wouldn't we need to change the name of the sport? Â Are you ready for some Oblongball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 If we eliminate the act of kicking the ball, wouldn't we need to change the name of the sport? Â Are you ready for some Oblongball? Â we still have punting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan da Man Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The only logical solution would be to rename it Bradyball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Well, if they did away with the kicking game they'd have to come up with another way to inject too many commercials. Maybe they could take a commercial break after every completed pass? Every attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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