VABills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 As much disdain as some Liberals profess towards Red Staters, you'd think they'd welcome the chance to finally be rid of them Who's going to provide the money they ned to take if they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Who's going to provide the money they ned to take if they do? The same people who do now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This talk of seceding reminds me of the Cosby episode where Theo wanted to move out, so they gave him a taste of what life is like without help from Mom and Dad. Let Texas go and see how they like it... The fact that you feel the role if the government is the same as the parents of a teenager is rather telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The same people who do now... Wrong. http://www.ppinys.org/reports/jtf/welfarespending.htm You posted a link to all federal spending. Not taker spending. Only Alaska is in top 10 of red states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The same people who do now... I pay taxes is a blue state, but am extremely fiscally conservative. Were Texas to leave the union and institute laws and tax policy I felt to be in line with my guiding philosophy, I'd take my wealth and earning potential to Texas in a cocaine heartbeat. Many like me would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The same people who do now... Then why the hesitation to let them go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The fact that you feel the role if the government is the same as the parents of a teenager is rather telling. I never said it SHOULD be. Can you deny that it currently is? Wrong. http://www.ppinys.or...arespending.htm You posted a link to all federal spending. Not taker spending. Only Alaska is in top 10 of red states. If they leave, then all federal funding goes. Not just taker funding. Then why the hesitation to let them go? Who is hesitating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I pay taxes is a blue state, but am extremely fiscally conservative. Were Texas to leave the union and institute laws and tax policy I felt to be in line with my guiding philosophy, I'd take my wealth and earning potential to Texas in a cocaine heartbeat. Many like me would do the same. No they wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 No they wouldn't. Back in the 60's and 70's Montreal was Canada's fastest expanding city. Once the wrong politics were implemented many left. The final blow was handed in the 90's and (whatever is left in 2012). Now Toronto is the fastest growing city and Montreal is a bilingual **** hole. When the well to do say they're going to leave, they usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) lol! Classic! What will be "classic" is watching who you idiots try to blame in four years when this Utopian left wing horseshit grinds us down even further. Edited November 14, 2012 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Back in the 60's and 70's Montreal was Canada's fastest expanding city. Once the wrong politics were implemented many left. The final blow was handed in the 90's and (whatever is left in 2012). Now Toronto is the fastest growing city and Montreal is a bilingual **** hole. When the well to do say they're going to leave, they usually do. Nothing has changed though. And nothing will change. The US has been a social democracy for 40 years and counting. This isn't new to most people, but it is to the fringes apparently. No one is moving, least of all Tasker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Looks like it could be done http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/13/secession-yall-why-texas-can-pull-it-off/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Looks like it could be done http://dailycaller.c...an-pull-it-off/ You should take a shower after sourcing anything from the Daily Caller. Just fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 No they wouldn't. No, they will; and I'll be first in line. While I would hesitate to leave to go to another "country" before my expat timeline allows it, Texas, even after leaving the Union, would hardly be like leaving for Europe or even Canada. I lived in Scottsdale, AZ for a few years in my early 20; and visited Texas frequently. If Texas were to adopt a federal tax policy I found favorable, I wouldn't even consider staying. I'd immediately put all my US properties on the market well under their value, and as soon as they sold, I'd be gone. I wouldn't even have to leave my current employer. What in the world makes you think I'd stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why would Texas need foreign aid? Oh like maybe when they have catastrophic fires? Gov. Goodhair, maybe soon to be Emperor Goodhair, asked for such aid...alas it hadn't been two weeks since his most recent anti-federal rant about TX not needing the federal government, and hints of secession...so POTUS turned him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 No, they will; and I'll be first in line. While I would hesitate to leave to go to another "country" before my expat timeline allows it, Texas, even after leaving the Union, would hardly be like leaving for Europe or even Canada. I lived in Scottsdale, AZ for a few years in my early 20; and visited Texas frequently. If Texas were to adopt a federal tax policy I found favorable, I wouldn't even consider staying. I'd immediately put all my US properties on the market well under their value, and as soon as they sold, I'd be gone. I wouldn't even have to leave my current employer. What in the world makes you think I'd stay? 1. Because it's fantasy, no state is leaving and the country isn't even changing. 2. Because your balls aren't big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Oh like maybe when they have catastrophic fires? Gov. Goodhair, maybe soon to be Emperor Goodhair, asked for such aid...alas it hadn't been two weeks since his most recent anti-federal rant about TX not needing the federal government, and hints of secession...so POTUS turned him down. Federal funds are based on policy hostage taking. Texas, and other states, are forced to adhere to federal guidelines on various matters, or they will be denied federal monies which their citizens were taxed for. The governmental costs of Texas would immediately contract while their tax base exploded as high earners, businesses, and innovators flock there. Texas doesn't need federal money now, and would need it even less were they not to be burdened by federal policy. 1. Because it's fantasy, no state is leaving and the country isn't even changing. 2. Because your balls aren't big enough. 1. We're speaking in hypotheticals. 2. If you believe moving to Texas requires any sort of courage, you're the most cowardly person I've ever been exposed to. What the hell is so scary or difficult about moving to another area with almost the exact same culture and better laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 1. We're speaking in hypotheticals. 2. If you believe moving to Texas requires any sort of courage, you're the most cowardly person I've ever been exposed to. What the hell is so scary or difficult about moving to another area with almost the exact same culture and better laws? I was busting your balls with #2. No offense intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Of course Texas asks for aid in emergency situations. They paid into the system for that. That's like saying a Libertarian who worked all his life and was forced to pay into social security for 45 years shouldn't draw after retirement, and is a hypocrite for doing so. If Texas didn't have to pay into the system, they wouldn't need to cash out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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