bowery4 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought Rosie showed up (even with the drop got 6 passes for 60 yards, question does that help? will he make the team?). The back up safety Howard looked good and got a few plays. Mc Killop looked better than Shep to me, Morrision and Moats? where were they? That worries me. Donald Jones looked good in space on his TD catch and run. Shawn Merriman was good when he finally got in with the 2s, Edwards had a sack. Carrinton, nothing I saw. Who did you see that changed your opinion about if they may or may not make the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I really like Ron Brooks. He has a lot of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 + Moats. He seemed to be in many plays on both defense and special teams + Morrison. Seemed solid to me. + Brooks. Another solid outing + Kyle + Marcell - Sheppard. Where has he been this pre-season? I'm expecting a MLB in a 4-3 to be in most plays. Do they take him out for nickle package or something? - Merriman. He did make one nice play to beat a block from their backup TE. Otherwise, it seemed like he was not motivated to play too hard. - Chandler. Missed on a couple blocks. - Spiller / OL. A lot of bouncing around, but no yards on limitted carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 My post was wrong with Howell's name, sorry. Liked Brooks as well, forgot to add him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ron Brooks looks like a keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Mark Kelso was bashing Kevin Sheppard all night long, Missed tackles, out of position, wrong angle. Sheppard was still on the field in the 4th quarter. Kelso's final comment was " The Bills need better play from the MLB position." Makes no sense to play a starter that long in a meaningless preseason game. Something is up with this......IMO Edited August 18, 2012 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Good: Dareus and Kyle W both look super-human. Howell was good. Heard looks too good to cut. Kyle Moore flushed Joe Webb from the pocket 2 times, decently. Graham finally looking like a starter. Dickerson finally making catches and showing good speed and blocking. Moats was solid. Fitz and VY. Bad: Asper, Williams and Carmon on the O-Line. Sheppard missed some tackles, lost his footing, Ruvell Martin didn't get past the marker on 4th down catch. Thigpen and Brad Smith can't throw. Choice never seems to get more than 2-3 yards. Cut em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Mark Kelso was bashing Kevin Sheppard all night long, Sheppard was still on the field in the 4th quarter. Makes no sense to play a starter that long. Something is up with this......IMO Well...They're trying to get him experience at the Mike no question...He really lacks overall play time, and it's a new Defense to boot...But that Kid...I don't know...Nothing he does tells me he's ready for what is to come...A decent MLB should have a Pro-Bowl head start behind this line, and Shep gets blocked, or takes himself out of too many plays...It's a concern...No question about it...He should be dominating in Run Defense minimum...And it is not happening...Not yet at least...But it is only pre-season week #2...We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ahh Dickerson another one I forgot but I keep Corey Mac and make him TE#3 for the final cuts. BTW I agree with most of this but didn't really notice Moats, might have been my stream it cut out a couple of times Good: Dareus and Kyle W both look super-human. Howell was good. Heard looks too good to cut. Kyle Moore flushed Joe Webb from the pocket 2 times, decently. Graham finally looking like a starter. Dickerson finally making catches and showing good speed and blocking. Moats was solid. Fitz and VY. Bad: Asper, Williams and Carmon on the O-Line. Sheppard missed some tackles, lost his footing, Ruvell Martin didn't get past the marker on 4th down catch. Thigpen and Brad Smith can't throw. Choice never seems to get more than 2-3 yards. Cut em. What is the gel time on a good on paper D switching back to the 4/3 I wonder Well...They're trying to get him experience at the Mike no question...He really lacks overall play time, and it's a new Defense to boot...But that Kid...I don't know...Nothing he does tells me he's ready for what is to come...A decent MLB should have a Pro-Bowl head start behind this line, and Shep gets blocked, or takes himself out of too many plays...It's a concern...No question about it...He should be dominating in Run Defense minimum...And it is not happening...Not yet at least...But it is only pre-season week #2...We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I think in nickel packages Sheppard is brought out, along with Moats/Morrison, and Barnett and Scott become the two LB's. That would explain some of the missing time for Sheppard, as we saw a ton of nickel last week. Still - I'd have to agree with the questions surrounding Shep. A middle linebacker should be hands down the most remarkable, noticed LB on a squad. He should know how to make big hits, and with our D-line - it's obvious there will be a crease or two up the middle for backs to run in, but that shouldn't be too much of a weakness, since our middle LB should be there to nail the guy when he makes it past the DT's. I just haven't seen that kind of PRESENCE from Sheppard. I, too, think our MLB of the future is not on this roster (although McKillop looked okay to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought CB Green looked pretty good..he's not going to make the team, but he still looked pretty solid...P.S. maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought CB Green looked pretty good..he's not going to make the team, but he still looked pretty solid...P.S. maybe?? The only time I noticed Green was when he got burned and beaten bad on a deep ball. Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Might as well have Dickerson as Te #2. Keep Corey Mac. Lee smith is te#2 ??? Never seen him do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Who didn't: 1. The Run d up the middle. Kyle and Darius weren't dominating the middle as they normally would. Assume preseason malaise. 2. Shep- looked slow and blockable. Might be an artifact of injury 3. Aaron Williams was beat often. He may not be as ready to start as hoped through Simpson and ponder looked great. 4. Spiller - so quick but indecisive. Outsmarts himself a lot. Used his elusiveness to turn a 3 yard loss into a 7 yard loss. 5. Thigpen- if he isn't cut, I will be shocked. He threw a nice td to a min LB. 6. Brad smith throwing. I just don't care for this wrinkle in the play book. For his first play he ran the same play as thigs last, touchdown pass to a Min LB. Who did: 1. I don't see what everyone else was complaining about on VY. I though he looked just fine and should be the #2. 2. Graham. This kid is good and fast. Will be starting by mid season. Had a great deep grab, he had 4 steps on his guy. Decent PR too. 3. Roosevelt - this guy is giving the coaching staff every reason to keep him other than on bad drop. Gets open makes grabs fights for yars... 4. Chandler- not just good catching great downfield blocking 5. Freddie- this guy is an enigma. Not flashy or electric, average speed, but slips through a seem for big yards consistently 6. Jones- i haven't seen a wr turn a quick slant into a td like that since Andre Reed. Heads up on fumble recovery. 7. Brooks- I like this kid better than Williams, or Gilmore in preseason. Granted he is tested more, but every time the ball is near him he is tipping, intercepting, breaking up, tackling. The steal of the 2012 draft for buf. 8. Fitz- You said ok... Was 8/11 for 50 or so and a td. Pass to Stevie was outstanding Farve like shot. 9. Kelsey- he was in the backfield causing more trouble than the other DE's combined. 10. Dickinson I hope they keep him around and keep developing him. Couple nice plays. 11. Choice looked a million times better over ps game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukethis Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I really like Ron Brooks. He has a lot of talent. Guys who looked good: Agreed on Brooks. Thought he looked like a solid player. Roosevelt continues to be boring and just get open and catch the ball. Kyle Williams is back to having those incredibly quick first couple of steps. The Bills finally have a CONSISTENT KO specialist. I hope they keep John Potter. VY looked like hes finally starting to get Chans system. TJ Graham can develop into a game breaking weapon with his outside speed. Shawn Powell boomed punts again but also pooched 1 inside the 20 Aussie style. 36 yo Moorman may actually face a challenge. Who Didnt Look Good: Tashard Choice. Can we please get rid of this 2-3 YPC guy who is only here because he played college ball for Chan ? Aaron Maybin. I just had to include him on this list out of habit. Thigpen and Brad Smith. 2 of the worst throws ever. LBers as a group were not good and did not fill gaps. Is Marcus Easley still on the team ? Goodbye Torrell Troup. Not being able to play with injuries will end his Bills career. Too bad as he had promise. On to game 3 of the preseason where teams actually try to win this game and set a tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 #36 all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 DL looked good considering that the D never blitzed. They logged two sacks in about 20 plays or so. Can't ask for more than that. Despite the heat that Mario's taking for no sacks, the DL did their job. The problem is in the LB and CBs. There is no experience at the CBs and there's only one decent LB in Barnett. That's going to be a liability all season long. Way too much pressure on the DL to perform. Who cares what players did against 2nd, 3rd, and 4th team players, they're not going to be the ones that they're lining up against in regular season, so it's not a measuring stick. The first team O had one brief drive against the Vikes' 2nd team D and was abysmal otherwise. Spiller showed nothing, no speed. Jackson was OK. The receivers are obviously going to be an issue all season long. You simply cannot take WRs like Jones, Nelson, and the rest and turn them into a group that's going to excel in a spread or in a normal pro set offense for that matter. They're backup receivers being asked to start. Blame the geniuses that put the roster together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The best thing Lee Evans has done in his career for the Buffalo Bills is land us Ron Brooks. That kid is a stud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ron Brooks: Great ball skills, even when he seems beat, he recovers and gets his hands in between the defenders while avoiding PI calls TJ Graham: Has shown more promise in 2 preseason games than Easley has in two years, great speed and surprisingly good ball skills John Potter: As good as advertised regarding leg strengh Arthur Moats: Has brought good energy and is involved in several plays Delano Howell: made some great open field tackles last night and did well in pass coverage, also had funble recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 DL looked good considering that the D never blitzed. They logged two sacks in about 20 plays or so. Can't ask for more than that. Despite the heat that Mario's taking for no sacks, the DL did their job. The problem is in the LB and CBs. There is no experience at the CBs and there's only one decent LB in Barnett. That's going to be a liability all season long. Way too much pressure on the DL to perform. Who cares what players did against 2nd, 3rd, and 4th team players, they're not going to be the ones that they're lining up against in regular season, so it's not a measuring stick. The first team O had one brief drive against the Vikes' 2nd team D and was abysmal otherwise. Spiller showed nothing, no speed. Jackson was OK. The receivers are obviously going to be an issue all season long. You simply cannot take WRs like Jones, Nelson, and the rest and turn them into a group that's going to excel in a spread or in a normal pro set offense for that matter. They're backup receivers being asked to start. Blame the geniuses that put the roster together. He shouldn't be taking crap. It's preseason. Personally I think Mario is going to have a Pepper's-like 1st year w/ the team (his 1st year in Chicago) where he only gets 8-9 sacks but makes life so much easier around the dine for everyone else. Kyle was a beast last night. His quickness his back. Dareus is an amazing athlete for such a fat man. The play where he ran down the line was freaking awesome. Aside from two running plays the Dline looked fine to me. CBs are the weakness of the team. Don't want to overreact cause it's preseason but outside of Barnett our LBs are going to have problems guarding RBs out of the backfield. We're going to see a lot of Scott this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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