nucci Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/QB-is-Brad-Smiths-chief-title-now/f9b4a250-9a4d-4833-ae08-8a59c9bc6168 If he is practicing only as a QB he may not make the team. He's not that great a receiver or QB and there might not be room for him on final roster. Edited June 11, 2012 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffmonster Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/QB-is-Brad-Smiths-chief-title-now/f9b4a250-9a4d-4833-ae08-8a59c9bc6168 If he is practicing only as a QB he may not make the team. He's not that great a receiver or QB and there might not be room for him on final roster. If you watch his interview on BB.com, Brad stated he is primarily practicing as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I would rather have him than Thigpen. At least Brad can catch better (see Redskins game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Actually, this makes a lot of sense. He will most likely make the team for his Special Teams contributions. Last year, when in the "wildcat" everyone knew he was going to run. If he is really a threat to pass from the "wildcat" formation it should be much harder to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintmyhouse Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Brad Smith listed as QB sucks. The Wildcat sucks. Thigpen is a better QB than Smith is, it isn't even close. They both suck, but between the two Thigpen is better. I hope the Bills don't run wildcat very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 two words: slash you only see one word but its actually there twice because its a legitimate double threat i think it was the second day after chan was hired that he said hed like to find his next slash. its taken into his third season but its obvious he feels hes finally ready to unleash one last half of last season smith was in all the wr meetings because they needed to give him a crash course in getting better at that spot. now they have him playing exclusively at qb to get him max prepared to actually run a real passing wildcat. he probably wont play a lick of real wr this season so theres no need to waste prep effort there, and he doesnt need practice on how to run, so its all qb all the time the wc has run its course for everything except short yardage using rbs as the ball handler. now chanlee is going to reinvent the formation to incorporate real passing threats and force the defense back away from the los. cant wait to see it unveiled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Considering that coaches still talk about his excellent talents elsewhere, I think they are doing this to simply round him out better. We already know he's a decent WR in a pinch, and a good special teams player. They want to utilize him for something else, meaning focusing early on that to get that skill up to par. I predict we'll have Fitz, Young and Smith as our three QBs and Thigpen will be elsewhere by the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 two words: slash you only see one word but its actually there twice because its a legitimate double threat i think it was the second day after chan was hired that he said hed like to find his next slash. its taken into his third season but its obvious he feels hes finally ready to unleash one last half of last season smith was in all the wr meetings because they needed to give him a crash course in getting better at that spot. now they have him playing exclusively at qb to get him max prepared to actually run a real passing wildcat. he probably wont play a lick of real wr this season so theres no need to waste prep effort there, and he doesnt need practice on how to run, so its all qb all the time the wc has run its course for everything except short yardage using rbs as the ball handler. now chanlee is going to reinvent the formation to incorporate real passing threats and force the defense back away from the los. cant wait to see it unveiled if brad smith becomes a legit passing threat, it almost becomes more of a spread option than "wildcat" - which is an interesting possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Smith will make the roster. Recall the new rule that allows three active QBs on game day. He can run, he can catch and presumably can throw in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 two words: slash you only see one word but its actually there twice because its a legitimate double threat i think it was the second day after chan was hired that he said hed like to find his next slash. its taken into his third season but its obvious he feels hes finally ready to unleash one last half of last season smith was in all the wr meetings because they needed to give him a crash course in getting better at that spot. now they have him playing exclusively at qb to get him max prepared to actually run a real passing wildcat. he probably wont play a lick of real wr this season so theres no need to waste prep effort there, and he doesnt need practice on how to run, so its all qb all the time the wc has run its course for everything except short yardage using rbs as the ball handler. now chanlee is going to reinvent the formation to incorporate real passing threats and force the defense back away from the los. cant wait to see it unveiled If you want a slash threat, why not use Vince Young? I'll grant that I haven't heard much about Young being used at receiver. But he's a much better quarterback than Brad Smith. Also Vince Young is one of the fastest and most mobile QBs in the league. Vince Young is going to make the final roster anyway, so using him as a slash option saves a roster spot. A roster spot which could be used on a young, developmental prospect such as Corp or Tanney. I also suspect that Corp or Tanney could do a better job of quarterbacking the Bills, if both Fitz and Young went down, than Brad Smith could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If you want a slash threat, why not use Vince Young? I'll grant that I haven't heard much about Young being used at receiver. But he's a much better quarterback than Brad Smith. Also Vince Young is one of the fastest and most mobile QBs in the league. Vince Young is going to make the final roster anyway, so using him as a slash option saves a roster spot. A roster spot which could be used on a young, developmental prospect such as Corp or Tanney. I also suspect that Corp or Tanney could do a better job of quarterbacking the Bills, if both Fitz and Young went down, than Brad Smith could do. corp or tanney? really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Brad Smith listed as QB sucks. The Wildcat sucks. Thigpen is a better QB than Smith is, it isn't even close. They both suck, but between the two Thigpen is better. I hope the Bills don't run wildcat very much. Question: Will both Vince Young and Thigpen make the roster? I am thinking Brad most likely becomes our 3rd QB, which makes a TON of sense since it's almost like getting an extra roster spot. Think about it, most teams carry 3 QB's and the 3rd does nothing all year. Now we have a 3rd QB, who is also a WR, Special Teamer and will play and run the wildcat. I say Win-Win. <....And come on' Are you really gonna be mad if Thigpen isn't our 3rd string QB? > Edited June 11, 2012 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 two words: slash you only see one word but its actually there twice because its a legitimate double threat i think it was the second day after chan was hired that he said hed like to find his next slash. its taken into his third season but its obvious he feels hes finally ready to unleash one last half of last season smith was in all the wr meetings because they needed to give him a crash course in getting better at that spot. now they have him playing exclusively at qb to get him max prepared to actually run a real passing wildcat. he probably wont play a lick of real wr this season so theres no need to waste prep effort there, and he doesnt need practice on how to run, so its all qb all the time the wc has run its course for everything except short yardage using rbs as the ball handler. now chanlee is going to reinvent the formation to incorporate real passing threats and force the defense back away from the los. cant wait to see it unveiled Plus if the Bills were to cut Smith the Jets would probably pick him back up off the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 those conversions on 2nd/3rd and short is incredible value... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is really nothing new or nothing shocking. He was brought in as the 3rd QB to take advantage of the rule change last season for a "Wildcat/3rd QB". He was listed as a QB last season too until the WR's started dropping like flies and they needed some more receivers, thats when Smith moved over to practicing as a WR. He amy not be as good of a Qb as Young or Thigpen, but eh provides more to the team then either of them cause in emergency situations he can move to WR and can play Special teams too. Thats why he ends up as the 3rd QB, a position that the league now allows the player to come in and out in place of the starter, without having to permanently remove teh starter (If Fitz gets pulled for Young, Fitz can't come back in after a couple of plays. If Fitz is taken out for Smith, Smith can run a couple of plays and be taken out again to put Fitz back in) This is the reason why they brought Smith in, and the reason he did not do as great as they hoped he would have last year was because he missed a big chunk of the offseason due to the strike (didn't get a full season with the offence) and he had to sit for a few practices because he was a newly signed player. He isn't going anywhere, the only QB competition on the team is between Young and Thigpen. Winner gets the #2 job, loser moves on to find somewhere else to play. Theres no need to keep Thigpen around and waste the spot of the #3 QB (a position they want to maximise with the new rule) unless you think he can run a wildcat type formation better then Smith. He isn't anything special that IF both Fitz and Young go down to injury, you can't pick up someone about as good during the season. If they want a developmental guy like Corp or Tanney (whos now in KC), they will use a Practice Squad spot for one of them and not waste a roster spot. At the moment, Young is their "Developmental QB". If he works out, its possible he could earn a chance to take the spot away from Fitz If you want a slash threat, why not use Vince Young? I'll grant that I haven't heard much about Young being used at receiver. But he's a much better quarterback than Brad Smith. Also Vince Young is one of the fastest and most mobile QBs in the league. Vince Young is going to make the final roster anyway, so using him as a slash option saves a roster spot. A roster spot which could be used on a young, developmental prospect such as Corp or Tanney. I also suspect that Corp or Tanney could do a better job of quarterbacking the Bills, if both Fitz and Young went down, than Brad Smith could do. Because Smith is a better Special Teamer and WR then Young, and then Young would have to be listed as the #3 QB on the roster to be able to run the wildcat in game without having to take Fitz out. Is Thigpen really that specialt that he needs to be kept cause you wouldn't want to risk losing him to another team, and his QB skills are so much better then Smiths that the outweigh his ability to play Special teams and WR? The entire discussion on Smith seems more like Fans are just trying to prep for their new whipping boy to eventually replace Chris "Can't do anything right" Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is really nothing new or nothing shocking. He was brought in as the 3rd QB to take advantage of the rule change last season for a "Wildcat/3rd QB". He was listed as a QB last season too until the WR's started dropping like flies and they needed some more receivers, thats when Smith moved over to practicing as a WR. He amy not be as good of a Qb as Young or Thigpen, but eh provides more to the team then either of them cause in emergency situations he can move to WR and can play Special teams too. Thats why he ends up as the 3rd QB, a position that the league now allows the player to come in and out in place of the starter, without having to permanently remove teh starter (If Fitz gets pulled for Young, Fitz can't come back in after a couple of plays. If Fitz is taken out for Smith, Smith can run a couple of plays and be taken out again to put Fitz back in) This is the reason why they brought Smith in, and the reason he did not do as great as they hoped he would have last year was because he missed a big chunk of the offseason due to the strike (didn't get a full season with the offence) and he had to sit for a few practices because he was a newly signed player. He isn't going anywhere, the only QB competition on the team is between Young and Thigpen. Winner gets the #2 job, loser moves on to find somewhere else to play. Theres no need to keep Thigpen around and waste the spot of the #3 QB (a position they want to maximise with the new rule) unless you think he can run a wildcat type formation better then Smith. He isn't anything special that IF both Fitz and Young go down to injury, you can't pick up someone about as good during the season. If they want a developmental guy like Corp or Tanney (whos now in KC), they will use a Practice Squad spot for one of them and not waste a roster spot. At the moment, Young is their "Developmental QB". If he works out, its possible he could earn a chance to take the spot away from Fitz Because Smith is a better Special Teamer and WR then Young, and then Young would have to be listed as the #3 QB on the roster to be able to run the wildcat in game without having to take Fitz out. Is Thigpen really that specialt that he needs to be kept cause you wouldn't want to risk losing him to another team, and his QB skills are so much better then Smiths that the outweigh his ability to play Special teams and WR? The entire discussion on Smith seems more like Fans are just trying to prep for their new whipping boy to eventually replace Chris "Can't do anything right" Kelsay Thank you. It must be hard work constantly setting the record straight. Can't way for the 13th. "Merriman is listed as DE" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If you want a slash threat, why not use Vince Young? I'll grant that I haven't heard much about Young being used at receiver. But he's a much better quarterback than Brad Smith. Also Vince Young is one of the fastest and most mobile QBs in the league. Vince Young is going to make the final roster anyway, so using him as a slash option saves a roster spot. A roster spot which could be used on a young, developmental prospect such as Corp or Tanney. I also suspect that Corp or Tanney could do a better job of quarterbacking the Bills, if both Fitz and Young went down, than Brad Smith could do. I have been thinking the same thing since they signed Young. He gives you way more options in the wildcat. However Smith's versatility may get him a roster spot. I think Tanney already signed somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'm thinking they showcase Smith and Young @ QB in the pre-season. Smith makes a good showing in pre-season and sometime early next season some team needs a QB due to injury, etc. The Bills have three of 'em and can broker a good trade with Smith. Not saying Smith can't help the Bills somehow but having your 3rd string QB look good in pre-season might help us differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'm thinking they showcase Smith and Young @ QB in the pre-season. Smith makes a good showing in pre-season and sometime early next season some team needs a QB due to injury, etc. The Bills have three of 'em and can broker a good trade with Smith. Not saying Smith can't help the Bills somehow but having your 3rd string QB look good in pre-season might help us differently. Given he couldnt subplant thigpen and they never threw with him in wildcat, I can't imagine there is anything to showcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 two huge reasons why you dont just plug vy in as wc qb: 1). hes never done it before. you might say he did some thing like it in college, and that he already has shown that he can run. but those are not direct correlations to everything he needs to know and do at this level to make it work. you would be close to starting from scratch with him when you already have a relatively seasoned wc guy already on the roster d). vy is trying to win the backup qb job. he has plenty on his plate already trying to learn a new offense and overcome a pattern of poor defensive reading skills. its a challenge for him to win that job in the first place, and even if he does win it he needs every rep he can get in the offense to become reliable enough to win games for you if/when he gets the chance to play. the last thing you want is to confuse his limited brainiacal (its a word) powers by learning TWO positions and roles green). brad smith was acquired and being paid relatively steep bucks to take advantage of the new third qb rule. if you dont invest every single available rep getting him ready to exploit that rule then you are dramatically wasting efficiency with TWO players now. and youre wasting money and a developmental roster spot on a guy youre pretty much forced to keep despite being what would be a seldom used utility player no, from every logical angle it is FAR smarter to just let vy get ready to try and win his main job and let smith get maximally ready for his specialty job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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