OCinBuffalo Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 12:23 PM, The Poojer said: this is 2012....right? Yeah....I'm sure calling people bigot, for doing nothing other than following their religious teaching, or just their own consciences, will be a real effective way to move the LGBT agenda forward. Looks to me like they are sore losers, but I don't blame them. Not today anyway. Now, if they are still calling people bigot in 2 months...then they are idiots, and deserve what they get. Some funny stuff there....but 0 convincing stuff. Pretty much par for the course on this. I am wondering who's going to bring up the unintended consequences of a law like this....that's convincing. Why does it ban civil unions, or any other, what I consider, reasonable alternatives? What else is that gonna effect? Moreover, if a Federal law is passed that allows for civil unions, or a Federal court recognizes them...then this whole amendment gets tossed out...and then they have to start all over again. Not smart. But, I don't expect that from a bunch of smug turds who just got reminded that they are in the minority...by 21 points. Let them continue to be clever...but unconvincing, and increasingly, irrelevant.
John Adams Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Meh. The old people will die and the US will get it right eventually. The trend nationwide is moving quickly in support of gay marriage. It'll happen sooner or later. My favorite from that list: " If twitter is accurate, North Carolina passed a law that they are ass*&%s." Edited May 9, 2012 by John Adams
RkFast Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Dont like North Carolina's marriage laws? Dont live there.
dayman Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Let's rewrite our most fundamental of laws, the framework of our state government, over a dispute on where people's penis goes. P in the V only thing recognized yay or nay!? ....yay... ... oh North Carolina. It's ok though let's face though any state where this gets a vote, the vote will almost always go yay...or it wouldn't be getting a vote to begin with. Edited May 9, 2012 by TheNewBills
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 1:26 PM, RkFast said: Dont like North Carolina's marriage laws? Dont live there. If only people in California would take the same advice.
DC Tom Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 1:50 PM, TheNewBills said: Let's rewrite our most fundamental of laws, the framework of our state government, over a dispute on where people's penis goes. P in the V only thing recognized yay or nay!? ....yay... ... oh North Carolina. It's ok though let's face though any state where this gets a vote, the vote will almost always go yay...or it wouldn't be getting a vote to begin with. At least this amendment is where it belongs: at the state level. I don't agree with it, but if they want to be idiots they have that right. At least, they have that right until the courts strike it down as violating the 14th Amendment.
/dev/null Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 1:26 PM, RkFast said: Dont like North Carolina's marriage laws? Dont live there. ^this But fear not. I have little doubt there will be lawsuits challenging the Constitutionality of the Amendment to their state Constitution
dayman Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 1:53 PM, DC Tom said: At least this amendment is where it belongs: at the state level. I don't agree with it, but if they want to be idiots they have that right. At least, they have that right until the courts strike it down as violating the 14th Amendment. Which they should do. On 5/9/2012 at 1:26 PM, RkFast said: Dont like North Carolina's marriage laws? Dont live there. If only people in North Carolina circa 1 week ago took this advice eh?
BillsFanNC Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Interesting breakdown of the vote. Basically, the amendment lost by a large margin in Raleigh (the Triangle) and Charlotte but won in the 93 other counties. http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/blogpost/11079387/
dayman Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:07 PM, BillsFanNC said: Interesting breakdown of the vote. Basically, the amendment lost by a large margin in Raleigh (the Triangle) and Charlotte but won in the 93 other counties. http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/blogpost/11079387/ ....shocking...
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:07 PM, BillsFanNC said: Interesting breakdown of the vote. Basically, the amendment lost by a large margin in Raleigh (the Triangle) and Charlotte but won in the 93 other counties. http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/blogpost/11079387/ While it's been over 20 years since I was there, I spent 3 years in Raleight/RTP and three years in McDowell County, and it's hard to imagine anyone from NC being surprised by this map.
John Adams Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:07 PM, BillsFanNC said: Interesting breakdown of the vote. Basically, the amendment lost by a large margin in Raleigh (the Triangle) and Charlotte but won in the 93 other counties. http://www.wral.com/...gpost/11079387/ Nationwide, Dems and Independents support gay marriage...Repubs oppose. Old people against. Young for. The demographics of those for and against are in no way surprising.
BillsFanNC Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:09 PM, TheNewBills said: ....shocking... We Yankee transplants are the only factor that even made it as close as it was. On 5/9/2012 at 2:11 PM, John Adams said: Nationwide, Dems and Independents support gay marriage...Repubs oppose. Old people against. Young for. The demographics of those for and against are in no way surprising. Not at all surprising, just interesting.
dayman Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) On 5/9/2012 at 2:11 PM, John Adams said: Nationwide, Dems and Independents support gay marriage...Repubs oppose. Old people against. Young for. The demographics of those for and against are in no way surprising. Also saw a stat saying the majority of black districts supported the Amendment. Kind of ironic if you ask me but...that's just me.... Edited May 9, 2012 by TheNewBills
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 It's also intersting that the African-American vote in NC was 73% against the amendment.
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:14 PM, TheNewBills said: Also saw a stat saying the majority of black districts supported the Amendment. Kind of ironic if you ask me but...that's just me.... I read a lefty political article a couple of days ago arguing that this is the reason Obama doesn't have the nutsack to come out of the closet in favor of gay marriage. It is apparently overwhelming opposed by blacks. I'll try to find the article because the numbers were pretty surprising to me.
dayman Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:16 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: It's also intersting that the African-American vote in NC was 73% against the amendment. Can you post a link to this?
OCinBuffalo Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Until I see scientifically supported data...I am not going to listen to demographic speculation. Regarding the due process, 14th etc., that's why I don't get the ban on civil unions in this thing. They are basically giving the other side an excuse to sue, and giving them standing. You would think they would learn the lesson about over-reach given the recent history of it in DC. If you are about protecting marriage, then protect it. Something that isn't marriage shouldn't be on your radar. This is the same flawed, emotional outburst, scorched earth-type of stuff that got the "we WILL redefine marriage, we will rub your nose in it, and if you dare challenge us we will call you a bigot" people in trouble last time around. You shouldn't strut. You shouldn't look to rub noses in it. It pisses people off, who otherwise wouldn't be that bothered.
DC Tom Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 On 5/9/2012 at 2:14 PM, TheNewBills said: Also saw a stat saying the majority of black districts supported the Amendment. Kind of ironic if you ask me but...that's just me.... North Carolina lifted their ban on interracial marriages in 1971 - well within the memory of many black voters. So...more than "kind of".
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