Alaska Darin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Damn, that's a good deal for the birds. Ryans is a stud. ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 wow, what a deal for philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Bills are very high on Kelvin Sheppard, but all in all a great deal for the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Probably wouldn't have traded him to Buffalo anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Buddy asleep at the wheel. But all joking aside, it is a steal for philly. Even if he isn't the same player after injury, they gave up little for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Did Philly include the rest of the jar of Vaseline in the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I'm guessing this is more salary dumping for Houston. Nice pick up for Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Torn Achilles, salary dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Wow must suck to be a Texans fan. Finally make the playoffs then they start letting talent go or dumping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The players they are losing didn't play much last year, which is why they feel they don't need them. The texans caught the injury bug last year just like the bills, but they were able to overcome it. They are still a top ten team imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The dream team is back!! Oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I also think it's a great deal for Philly. I also think the Texans are going to be fine on defense. Dear god I wanted Brooks Reed, I saw him play a few times, he's a star in the making. With Barwin and Watts also they are a nice young group to build around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepizzaking Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I read somewhere his cap hit is approaching 10. That's a huge cap hit. I can understand the Texans position, especially cause they have Barwin to resign and Meco's production dropped in the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I also think it's a great deal for Philly. I also think the Texans are going to be fine on defense. Dear god I wanted Brooks Reed, I saw him play a few times, he's a star in the making. With Barwin and Watts also they are a nice young group to build around. Ugh I know. There was a contingent of us clamoring for BReed last april. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Did Philly include the rest of the jar of Vaseline in the deal? Can say that again, A fourth and swapping thirds don't know what Houston is thinking. Torn Achilles, salary dump 2 years ago, he was fine last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Can say that again, A fourth and swapping thirds don't know what Houston is thinking. 2 years ago, he was fine last year. It has to be the salary. Same reason they couldn't keep Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) IDK torn Achilles is devastating. For a lot guys it's the end (Lawrence Taylor, Lavar Arrington) for ones who come back and play several seasons theyre never the same (Spikes) Edited March 21, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmJam35 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I've lived in Houston the past 12 years and have followed the Texans closely since their inaugural season in 2002. DeMeco was a quality linebacker for them and a tackling machine prior to his injury. However, the fact is he hasn't played that well since his return from the achilles tear and the move to the 3-4 exposed his lack of size and reduced movement post injury. Barwin, Reed and the "over-trained" Cushing made that defense go last year....with help from Joseph on the back end. Ryans may be helped by a move back to the 4-3 but frankly he simply wasn't very good for the Texans last year....not a major loss. I am sure the Texans will look for some linebacker depth but they have bigger priorities such as finding a number two WR, addressing an OL that has been weakened by losses at guard and tackle, DE/OLB depth to counter the loss of Mario to the Bills and another DB, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Joe is correct, especially with the examples cited. Achilles injuries are very tough to fully recover from because it's a complicated tendon. It's a tendon that looks like a box of cooked spaghetti. When it ruptures, it's a mess because it's never a clean, orderly rupture. Each strand can be severed at a different location. While the surgery has become relatively straightforward, the physical therapy afterwards is the real key to having the leg regain strength and ability to throw weight off the foot. Merriman's AT isn't even ruptured and you see how it's affected his ability to be on the field. The Texans must be very confident in their talent evaluation. Judging by their successful drafts, I give them the benefit of the doubt that they believe they can find a linebacker that fits their 3-4 in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 I've lived in Houston the past 12 years and have followed the Texans closely since their inaugural season in 2002. DeMeco was a quality linebacker for them and a tackling machine prior to his injury. However, the fact is he hasn't played that well since his return from the achilles tear and the move to the 3-4 exposed his lack of size and reduced movement post injury. Barwin, Reed and the "over-trained" Cushing made that defense go last year....with help from Joseph on the back end. Ryans may be helped by a move back to the 4-3 but frankly he simply wasn't very good for the Texans last year....not a major loss. I am sure the Texans will look for some linebacker depth but they have bigger priorities such as finding a number two WR, addressing an OL that has been weakened by losses at guard and tackle, DE/OLB depth to counter the loss of Mario to the Bills and another DB, I'm sure Ryans was still hampered by his achilles last season but he should be back now. It takes a long time for those things to completely heal - Spikes was basically 2 years. I think this may be the first time I've heard a 247 ILB/MLB be called out for "lack of size". I think Wade Phillips "makes that defense go". He's done it everywhere he's been. The Ryans move looks totally like a salary cap dump. I don't blame them for doing it but damn it would be nice to have gotten a player of that caliber for what's basically going to be a special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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