I hate all this pink gear

[The Senator]

Wow. What a bunch of idiots. You do realize that everything the players are wearing/using that is pink will get auctioned off on nfl dot com, right? And that every single item will end up being sold, so that means that there will easily be over a million dollars dedicated to cancer research/awareness.

 

If anyone thinks there is anything wrong with that for any reason ... you're a complete moron.

Wow, I'm really stupid. I didn't know you could only auction things that are pink.

[papazoid]

How is it you think the campaign is 'working'?

 

I haven't given a dime to the cause that could be attributed to the campaign, and have spent more time and effort in the last 12 hours trying eradicate the color pink than to fight breast cancer

 

 

I was wondering if you might know of additional ridiculous, outdated, 70-plus year-old customs/conventions/practices/fashion-trends/etc.?

 

GO BIG PINK?????

 

i'm sure there are hundreds of "causes" that you have not contributed to.....and yet hundreds of causes continue to raise millions of dollars.

 

this breast awareness campaign is all about goodness......and yet you continue to try and find fault with it.

 

Did you know?

 

» Because of inadequate federal funding of the breast and cervical cancer screening program, fewer than one in five eligible women get the lifesaving breast cancer screening and treatment they need.

 

» Breast cancer is the second-most common cancer among women in the United States, but with mammography, it can be found early when the chances of surviving it are high.

 

» You can help reduce your risk of having breast cancer with regular physical activity, maintaining a health weight, and limiting the amount of alcohol you drink.

 

» More women than ever are surviving breast cancer through early detection and improved treatments.

[DC Tom]

* Raise Awareness: A sea of pink will put a spotlight on breast cancer.

 

If anyone in this country is unaware of breast cancer in this day and age, a campaign to fight mental retardation would be more effective.

 

* Save Lives: With the NFL's action comes support. With support comes a greater chance of survival for all women.

 

Or at least existence. There's some breast cancer patients I know whom I wouldn't consider to be "surviving" all that well.

[The Senator]

i'm sure there are hundreds of "causes" that you have not contributed to.....and yet hundreds of causes continue to raise millions of dollars.

 

this breast awareness campaign is all about goodness......and yet you continue to try and find fault with it.

 

Did you know?

 

» Because of inadequate federal funding of the breast and cervical cancer screening program, fewer than one in five eligible women get the lifesaving breast cancer screening and treatment they need.

 

» Breast cancer is the second-most common cancer among women in the United States, but with mammography, it can be found early when the chances of surviving it are high.

 

» You can help reduce your risk of having breast cancer with regular physical activity, maintaining a health weight, and limiting the amount of alcohol you drink.

 

» More women than ever are surviving breast cancer through early detection and improved treatments.

I'm sorry, I thought the thread was about 'Too much pink'. Guess I was misled by the title.

 

And yeah, I wish I had Warren Buffet's money so I could contribute to EVERY worthy cause - but I don't.

 

I do, however, support breast (and other) cancer research thru financial (and other) contributions - and have since I was first approached in 2000 to sponsor/contribute/participate in the American Cancer Society Making Strides Against Breast Cancer walk.

 

I just don't wear pink. Sorry again.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Wow, I'm really stupid. I didn't know you could only auction things that are pink.

 

+1

[Gugny]

I'm sorry, I thought the thread was about 'Too much pink'. Guess I was misled by the title.

 

And yeah, I wish I had Warren Buffet's money so I could contribute to EVERY worthy cause - but I don't.

 

I do, however, support breast (and other) cancer research thru financial (and other) contributions - and have since I was first approached in 2000 to sponsor/contribute/participate in the American Cancer Society Making Strides Against Breast Cancer walk.

 

I just don't wear pink. Sorry again.

I totally understand, Senator. I'm not disagreeing that there's a ton of pink. All I'm saying that, it's proven to make a ton of money for a very worthy cause ... and yes, there are many worthy causes. It's a pretty easy thing to overlook when the end result is saving someone's life. My "moron" comment wasn't aimed directly at you, believe me. I apologize if you thought it was. This is just a pretty touchy subject.

[The Senator]

I totally understand, Senator. I'm not disagreeing that there's a ton of pink. All I'm saying that, it's proven to make a ton of money for a very worthy cause ... and yes, there are many worthy causes. It's a pretty easy thing to overlook when the end result is saving someone's life. My "moron" comment wasn't aimed directly at you, believe me. I apologize if you thought it was. This is just a pretty touchy subject.

No worries - I'm not offended. No blood, no foul. Never thought you meant me (or anyone) specifically; rather that you were just being passionate about the cause.

 

And yes, there are many worthy causes.

 

(Also, many worthy colours. )

[Matt in KC]

I have little problem with the pink. I think it's a great campaign and is helping raise awareness, and looks like it will also directly raise significant money.

 

 

Pertaning to earlier comments:

Pink is not just a 'girl' color. Men and boys can and do wear pink as well, and that's just fine. Aren't there more important things than getting worked up over clothing color choice? Try not to be so small-minded. A boy "looking like a girl" is also not something that should be seen as an insult. Is there something wrong with being a girl? That is patently chauvinistic.

 

I understand there is a cultural stereotype about pink. I just don't agree with it.

 

On another front, confronting people and making them feel bad about themselves (for clothing choice or whatever) is reprehensible, and can be very damaging to children. If you act this way, you ought to really feel bad about yourself.

 

I agree this is part of the NFL marketing to attract and broaden the female audience.

 

 

The complaints that the pink made it harder to see the ball and might have effected the call on the Johnson reception are legitimate, and I agree with them. I think in that regard the pink is distracting and should be farther from the ball.

 

 

Can anyone confirm that the pink will be this prevalent for the whole month? Didn't they do this last year (awareness month) but were only this saturated the first week, and more subtle after that?

[benderbender]

i'm sure there are hundreds of "causes" that you have not contributed to.....and yet hundreds of causes continue to raise millions of dollars.

this breast awareness campaign is all about goodness......and yet you continue to try and find fault with it.

Did you know?

» Because of inadequate federal funding of the breast and cervical cancer screening program, fewer than one in five eligible women get the lifesaving breast cancer screening and treatment they need.

» Breast cancer is the second-most common cancer among women in the United States, but with mammography, it can be found early when the chances of surviving it are high.

» You can help reduce your risk of having breast cancer with regular physical activity, maintaining a health weight, and limiting the amount of alcohol you drink.

» More women than ever are surviving breast cancer through early detection and improved treatments.

 

I find fault with the inequity. Breast cancer receives much more research funding and publicity than prostate cancer despite similar number of victims.

In fiscal year 2009, breast cancer research received $872 million worth of federal funding, while prostate cancer received $390 million

 

 

 

[The Senator]

I find fault with the inequity. Breast cancer receives much more research funding and publicity than prostate cancer despite similar number of victims.

In fiscal year 2009, breast cancer research received $872 million worth of federal funding, while prostate cancer received $390 million

Not to mention, there also happens to be a lovely powder blue/pink ribbon to provide some equity in building much-needed awareness of both female and the mostly-ignored instances of male breast cancer...

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I find fault with the inequity. Breast cancer receives much more research funding and publicity than prostate cancer despite similar number of victims.

In fiscal year 2009, breast cancer research received $872 million worth of federal funding, while prostate cancer received $390 million

 

I believe the average prognosis for prostate cancer is significantly better than for breast cancer, as it tends to be less aggressive. So the rate of prevalence may be similar, but that doesn't mean we can equate the two.

 

That said, I believe that there is an undeniable bias toward women's health in our country.

Edited October 4, 2011 by SageAgainstTheMachine

[The Senator]

That said, I believe that there is an undeniable bias toward women's health in our country.

That's because they're prettier, softer, and smell better than men - and we'd like to keep them around longer.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

That's because they're prettier, softer, and smell better than men - and we'd like to keep them around longer.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[kickedface]

i can't get enough pink.......er nevermind different topic.

[bizell]

I'm all for the support, I think there's just a bit of overkill in the pink in the uniforms.

[DC Tom]

That said, I believe that there is an undeniable bias toward women's health in our country.

 

Important to note, thought, that that's a recent development (within the past 20 years, probably less). And due in no small part to the marketing skills of organizations like Komen.

[papazoid]

I believe the average prognosis for prostate cancer is significantly better than for breast cancer, as it tends to be less aggressive. So the rate of prevalence may be similar, but that doesn't mean we can equate the two.

 

That said, I believe that there is an undeniable bias toward women's health in our country.

 

Men die six years sooner than women. There are more than four widows for every widower.

 

So, it would only seem fair that more health research and health education dollars be spent on men than on women. Yet in the budget of every federal health agency, more money is spent on women’s health than on men’s. There are seven federal health agencies specifically for women. Not one for men. 39 of the 50 states have an office of women’s health, only six have one for men. A search of more than 3,000 medical journals listed in Index Medicus found that 23 articles were written on women’s health for each one written on men’s. Although a woman is only 14 percent more likely to die from breast cancer than a man is from prostate cancer, funding for breast cancer research is 660 percent greater than funding for prostate cancer research. Even the post office has gotten into the act: there is only one disease for which you can buy a postage stamp and the profits will go to research to cure the disease: breast cancer, even though heart disease kills millions more men prematurely. Before the age of 65, men die of heart attacks at three times the rate of women.

 

http://www.martynemko.com/articles/should-we-pay-more-attention-mens-health_id1231

[DC Tom]

Men die six years sooner than women. There are more than four widows for every widower.

 

So, it would only seem fair that more health research and health education dollars be spent on men than on women.

 

Of course, you're making the assumption that all deaths are due to health issues.

 

Which is a seriously idiotic assumption. Why don't you break out the early deaths in both sexes attributable to non-health issues (e.g. accidents), and then check the disparity?

[The Senator]

Men die six years sooner than women. There are more than four widows for every widower.

 

So, it would only seem fair that more health research and health education dollars be spent on men than on women.

That's a tremendous reach - it could be quite simply that more women shoot their husbands.

[shrader]

Of course, you're making the assumption that all deaths are due to health issues.

 

Which is a seriously idiotic assumption. Why don't you break out the early deaths in both sexes attributable to non-health issues (e.g. accidents), and then check the disparity?

 

To be fair, getting hit really hard by a car isn't healthy either.

 

As for the big complaint of this thread, I'd be willing to guess that an event like this raises the awareness for other cancers as well. From this thread, it's clear that people are more than aware of those other forms. Just because you're seeing all this pink doesn't mean you have to turn around and donate time/money specifically to breast cancer research. Donate to pancreatic, to testicular, to whatever you want. If the pink just happened to be the reminder for making that cancer donation, success.