Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (Poll Pick all that apply) OK, my jaw was on the floor. Jasper practicing with the OL. Gailey telling the media they think he's got a better future as an OL. Couldn't they tell this when they drafted him? Or at camp? Why have the poor guy learn the defensive playbook and work on D-fence all camp if you honestly think he's best suited to his college position, OL? I doan get it. One theory is that our coaches were "hiding" him from other teams by keeping him at NT. In this scenario, Chix and Nailey are crazy like foxes. Another theory is that they felt he really bombed as a NT and this is his second chance - bomb as an OL and it's back to Tennessee, boy. A third theory is that the Bills are so desperate at OL that any body will do. What's your theory? Vote here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 CJ Spiller is smiling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) CJ Spiller is smiling... "Hey Mike, you wanna block? You wanna hit that guy?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov-1S8Xxd94 Edited September 6, 2011 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 CJ Spiller is smiling... Wow. Can you imagine being a d-back coming up in run support with that "Buffalo" (literally) coming at you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Total and utter sign of OL desperation.....trying to see if there's ANY value they can squeeze out of him outside of practice squad. Come on with the hidden genius of Chix suggestions already....had that been the case, they would have put him with the OL at the start of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 They have a fetish for changing positions like Nesbitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 With Gailey's proclivity for trick plays and gadget players, this might be a fun offense to watch this year... "It's 1st-and-goal for the Bills at the 1-yard line, and #69 has just reported in as a tackle-eligible at the fullback position..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan in n.h Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 i remember a certain tight end, oh,what was his name??? they converted him to left tackle and he did quite well. so much so,we couldnt afford to pay him(or didnt want to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills7834 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Total and utter sign of OL desperation.....trying to see if there's ANY value they can squeeze out of him outside of practice squad. Come on with the hidden genius of Chix suggestions already....had that been the case, they would have put him with the OL at the start of camp. It's the PS. Why not give some freaklishly large, athletic guy a chance? I think the odds are against the guy turning in to a true NFL player at any position. I also thought that when they drafted him. You take chances in the 7th round. You also have guys on your practice squad that are raw. This guy gets more press than any other 7th rounder we've drafted. He's not taking a roster spot and salary cap space. Why have such a strong opinion against the guy? I just think they see what a great athlete the guy is for his size and they're giving him some time to develop. I don't think it's desperation on their part. By the time he would be ready the verdict will be out on Chan, good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It's the PS. Why not give some freaklishly large, athletic guy a chance? I think the odds are against the guy turning in to a true NFL player at any position. I also thought that when they drafted him. You take chances in the 7th round. You also have guys on your practice squad that are raw. This guy gets more press than any other 7th rounder we've drafted. He's not taking a roster spot and salary cap space. Why have such a strong opinion against the guy? I just think they see what a great athlete the guy is for his size and they're giving him some time to develop. I don't think it's desperation on their part. By the time he would be ready the verdict will be out on Chan, good or bad. And Nix has some history drafting freakish large, athletic guys (Jamie Nails)... Offensive lineman Jamie Nails packed 354 pounds on his 6-6 frame when the Bills drafted him in 1997. But he weighed 387 at the combine following his senior year at Florida A&M. The Bills wanted him to report to camp at 340. Nix, who was the Bills' Southeast scout at the time, said of Nails' weight loss: "It's kinda like throwing a lawn chair off the Titanic. It don't take much to lose 40 or 50 pounds when you're that big." It is believed Nails topped the 400-pound mark in college, but never pushed 450 like Jasper did. Nails also wasn't the athlete Jasper is. "This is an amazing kid, now," Nix said. "He vertical jumps 32 inches and he long jumps like 9-5 and he dunks a basketball with both hands. His body fat is not real high. He's an exceptional athlete. We would've signed him as a free agent so we just drafted him and didn't have to go after him, and we're going to see if he can play." Link - Jasper's a heavy-duty investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 It's the PS. Why not give some freaklishly large, athletic guy a chance? I think the odds are against the guy turning in to a true NFL player at any position. I also thought that when they drafted him. You take chances in the 7th round. You also have guys on your practice squad that are raw. This guy gets more press than any other 7th rounder we've drafted. He's not taking a roster spot and salary cap space. Why have such a strong opinion against the guy? I just think they see what a great athlete the guy is for his size and they're giving him some time to develop. I don't think it's desperation on their part. By the time he would be ready the verdict will be out on Chan, good or bad. I have no problem with Jasper whatsoever, I hoped and prayed he would be that load in the middle other teams will not dare try to run at. Jury is still out and I will continue to be a fan. He's young and raw and unique...so it's up to our coaching staff to make him a pro. I hope he becomes a 2-way wrecking ball... My issue is this constant notion that is used to validate the things we do that would otherwise be considered "questionable" to put it lightly. This notion that Chan and Bud have this secret and genius plan and if you give it enough years, you'll see just what genius is....till then you cannot criticize. The "desperation" comment I made was towards our OL depth....there's nothing genius about the way that has been addressed (or not) Sorry just not a blue kool aid drinking happy horse sh-t 10-6 guy at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Jasper has talent but to expect him to beat the guys ahead of him was just too much to ask. We have some serious talent on the Defensive Line and no kid from Bethel is going to crack that lineup. But the talent is there. Gailey recognized it and recognized his effort. Gailey is simply compelled to do something with him. I really think there is a tendency here on the TSW to read too much into coaching decisions. Jasper did well enough to gain the coaches respect, but not well enough to beat Williams, Troupe or Heard. By the way, Heard has been playing like his hair is on fire and is very noticeably better than last year. I didn't vote in the poll because none of the answers there are quite accurate. It was fun to speculate though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) (Poll Pick all that apply) OK, my jaw was on the floor. Jasper practicing with the OL. Gailey telling the media they think he's got a better future as an OL. Couldn't they tell this when they drafted him? Or at camp? Why have the poor guy learn the defensive playbook and work on D-fence all camp if you honestly think he's best suited to his college position, OL? I doan get it. One theory is that our coaches were "hiding" him from other teams by keeping him at NT. In this scenario, Chix and Nailey are crazy like foxes. Another theory is that they felt he really bombed as a NT and this is his second chance - bomb as an OL and it's back to Tennessee, boy. A third theory is that the Bills are so desperate at OL that any body will do. What's your theory? Vote here. Why does this sound like Jason Peters Version 2.0 to me??? Edited September 6, 2011 by mattsox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 he might be very good, but he needs a lot of work to jump fromBethel to NFL play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Jasper played on the o-line in college, he has the size to be a NT in the NFL, and I think the FO decided they wanted to see what he could do as a potential NT first in training camp and pre-season. Since he wasn't able to beat out the current players at NT, they have switched him back to what he has played since it should be much easier and quicker for him to get back to playing o-line and provide them some Tackle depth, and maybe try him again at NT next offseason when they will have more time with OTA's and mini camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 ... since it should be much easier and quicker for him to get back to playing o-line... I thought he played DT in college as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Jasper played on the o-line in college, he has the size to be a NT in the NFL, and I think the FO decided they wanted to see what he could do as a potential NT first in training camp and pre-season. Since he wasn't able to beat out the current players at NT, they have switched him back to what he has played since it should be much easier and quicker for him to get back to playing o-line and provide them some Tackle depth, and maybe try him again at NT next offseason when they will have more time with OTA's and mini camps. And I would bet Heard's play in the pre-season also was a factor in this move. With his development, there is room to experiment with Jasper. Well, whatever prompted it, I thinks its a good try--nothing to lose and everything to gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I like the idea, couldn't hurt. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 And I would bet Heard's play in the pre-season also was a factor in this move. With his development, there is room to experiment with Jasper. Well, whatever prompted it, I thinks its a good try--nothing to lose and everything to gain. well, on the practice squad they could still experiment with him on as a NT, but if the FO really wants to get him onto the game day roster, this is probably the best and quickest way to get him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I vote none of the above. If he "bombed" so bad then why did they add him to the PS? There is no cover up of failure here. They didn't have time to work with Jasper as an O-line project during camp when they are evaluating other players. Now that he is on PS the Bills have the luxury of working him out. If there were OTAs this year I bet this would have happened sooner. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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