eball Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It'd be nice to get to useful information without having to sift through a bunch of crap, that's all I'm saying. It's called a "filter" -- as in "search for posts by the user nevergiveup." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Two things I'll give you: 1. You are correct that you did not paint him as a monster and I flew off the handle defending him. Problem is at this point of the offseason, Ive had to have these arguments too many times with people that are judging and making assumptions off of weak information. Your original post was well balanced. 2. I shouldnt have said "all". But I will still stick to "most" and a very high percentage. Yes, I believe based on my experiences, that the majority of college students cheat on something at some point of their career. Others cheat on a regular basis. NOW, based on other people agreeing with me, I will still contend that cheating is WAY more rampant then you say it is. This is like believing that there isnt a large number of professional athletes that juice. They do, but most dont get caught because they are smart enough to NOT get caught. Just like the smart students. For everyone that gets caught, how many do you think are getting away with it? Or do you believe that only those that are caught are cheating? It's a widespread and common problem. If it wasnt, there wouldnt be such harsh penalties, and so much discussion of it. Now enough of this, and lets get back to the draft! ONE person agreed with you about cheating or attempting to cheat - it wasn't from his experience as a student - it was someone at a book publisher - who even knows if it was students - or people who prepare study guides - or people who sell information to students - the other said he wrote what he thought his professor wanted to get better grades. Then there was the other 8 or so who strongly disagreed with your premise. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that 80% of this VERY small sample disagree with you. Don't let that stand in the way of you continuing to claim you are right. Why do you keep claiming that "if it wasn't widespread there wouldn't be so much discussion of it"? YOU are the one who brought it up - and the one who keeps making the accusation despite 80% of the people responding strongly disagreeing with you! If everyone at your college cheated that's your problem. If you did nothing to address it that is also your problem. Don't use your personal failings to cast a cloud on the degrees honorably obtained by the other members of this board. You still fail to appreciate how your ridiculous claim reflects on all the college and grad school graduates who are members of this board. I guess that should come as no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 "Ruin" the thread? Hilarious. It's a friggin' message board. I like a good "scoop" as much as the next guy, but at the end of the day, who the hell cares? By 8:30 tonight we'll know who the pick is. Will it make someone feel better that they knew it ahead of time? Too funny. P.S. Nevergiveup, I think it's a blast that you visit to impart your inside knowledge. It's even better watching everyone else go ape**** over it. I agree with the original poster. I opened this thread to get actual information, not hear a couple of blowhards start a self-important debate. You are correct, this is a message board, so go start another thread for your little group of friends. I hate it when topics get hijacked. The thread was started by NGU, it should contain only questions for him and possibly some answers to those questions. Why some people think they can pontificate and think I want to hear their opinions on any matter rather than open a thread and read information pertaining to the actual topic is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I agree with the original poster. I opened this thread to get actual information, not hear a couple of blowhards start a self-important debate. You are correct, this is a message board, so go start another thread for your little group of friends. I hate it when topics get hijacked. The thread was started by NGU, it should contain only questions for him and possibly some answers to those questions. Why some people think they can pontificate and think I want to hear their opinions on any matter rather than open a thread and read information pertaining to the actual topic is beyond me. Seriously? Have you READ any message boards lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 papa's Final Big Board: #1- Patrick Peterson #2- Nick Fairley #3- Marcel Dareus #4- A J Green #5- Robert Quinn #6- Von Miller #7- Julio Jones #8- Ryan Mallet #9- Blaine Gabbert #10- DaQuan Bowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevergiveup Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 "Ruin" the thread? Hilarious. It's a friggin' message board. I like a good "scoop" as much as the next guy, but at the end of the day, who the hell cares? By 8:30 tonight we'll know who the pick is. Will it make someone feel better that they knew it ahead of time? Too funny. P.S. Nevergiveup, I think it's a blast that you visit to impart your inside knowledge. It's even better watching everyone else go ape**** over it. Thanks. I like to pass on information. Primarily because, even when you disagree, this has to be the most passionate group of Bills fans anywhere. I have some legitimate insight and will continue to post when appropriate. But I can be wrong. So all the debate is warranted. No matter where this goes tonight, I will pass along any post draft info that I can as well. Enjoy the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks. I like to pass on information. Primarily because, even when you disagree, this has to be the most passionate group of Bills fans anywhere. I have some legitimate insight and will continue to post when appropriate. But I can be wrong. So all the debate is warranted. No matter where this goes tonight, I will pass along any post draft info that I can as well. Enjoy the draft! We appreciate anything you can post!! (I'll try not to contribute to another hijacking, promise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks. I like to pass on information. Primarily because, even when you disagree, this has to be the most passionate group of Bills fans anywhere. I have some legitimate insight and will continue to post when appropriate. But I can be wrong. So all the debate is warranted. No matter where this goes tonight, I will pass along any post draft info that I can as well. Enjoy the draft! Awesome, and thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Awesome, and thanks! He said, giddily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Something tells me you might not be objective when assessing your own work. Hey Mods, if I add a guy to my ignore list, does that mean the things I post are hidden from him also? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hey Mods, if I add a guy to my ignore list, does that mean the things I post are hidden from him also? Thanks in advance. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Jim Kelly tells NCCC grads "never give up..." http://niagara-gazet...-on-your-dreams i'm not sayin...i'm just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Jim Kelly tells NCCC grads "never give up..." http://niagara-gazet...-on-your-dreams i'm not sayin...i'm just sayin. It's called a cliche for a reason. Nevergiveup already said you were wrong and that the fan base as a whole is wrong about how much insight Kelly has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl malones other son Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It's called a cliche for a reason. Nevergiveup already said you were wrong and that the fan base as a whole is wrong about how much insight Kelly has. I think Nevergiveup is the ghost of Jim Valvano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Jam Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks. I like to pass on information. Primarily because, even when you disagree, this has to be the most passionate group of Bills fans anywhere. I have some legitimate insight and will continue to post when appropriate. But I can be wrong. So all the debate is warranted. No matter where this goes tonight, I will pass along any post draft info that I can as well. Enjoy the draft! You sir are a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Thanks NGU for all your insight and time. It is very much appreciated. Thank you for handling us rabid fanatics in a clear headed manner. We're an extremely passionate lot so forgive us for that. My adrenaline is pumping as the hour approaches!! If Carolina picks Newton I will do cartwheels up and down the street!!! Edited April 28, 2011 by Pilsner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks NGU for all your insight and time. It is very much appreciated. Thank you for handling us rabid fanatics in a clear headed manner. We're an extremely passionate lot so forgive us for that. My adrenaline is pumping as the hour approaches!! If Carolina picks Newton I will do cartwheels up and down the street!!! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Fairley must be go'in for the Poindexter look!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks NGU for all your insight and time. It is very much appreciated. Thank you for handling us rabid fanatics in a clear headed manner. We're an extremely passionate lot so forgive us for that. My adrenaline is pumping as the hour approaches!! If Carolina picks Newton I will do cartwheels up and down the street!!! Let me second everything you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) If Carolina picks Newton I will do cartwheels up and down the street!!! I look forward to seeing the video evidence Let me second everything you said From both of you! Edited April 28, 2011 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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