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Late first rounder, but I will keep my fingers crossed for him to be available at #34.

 

Bell - Levitre - Wood -Urbik/Hang - Carimi.

 

 

That second rounder imo would be much better placed on either

 

if we go Cam in the 1st a Defensive Linemen or linbacker

 

if we go DL in the first a QB like Ponder or Mallette

 

if we go LB a QB like Ponder or Mallette OR a linebacker

 

 

I just dont think it makes sense to give up draft picks on positions when someone could be available in free agency like Clabo or Harris

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If Bell struggles to run block at LT facing RDE's, how we he fare against stouter LDE's as a RT? Bell is not a powerful blocker in the mold of a Jon Runyan type RT who moves people. He's more of a finesse blocker, and even at that not strong at the point of attack.

 

You beat me to it. I don't understand why some would suggest moving Bell to RT. You stated the reason for him staying at LT as clearly as can be.

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The weakest area of this team is the run defense, no question. Worst in the league last season and near worst for the last 4 years says it all. What is that old football adage "run, and stop the run" to win games.

 

With Tom Brady and Randy Moss in NE I can understand why Jauron kept drafting DB's, he must have had constant nightmares about Brady to Moss TD's over, and over in his sleep. Still, he should have drafted to stop the run and make them throw, and drafted for a better pass rush. I think that just might be why the Bills over reached for Aaron Maybin. How he couldn't see the guy as a huge 3 year project, and perhaps a huge bust just shows how little he actually knew about positions besides DB's.

 

Anyway, The Bills are still in dire need of stability at RT- C (if they don't move Wood to C) in my view, and I'm still not sold on Bell at LT, the guy seems to get man handled by the good teams when it really counts the most in the 4th QTR.

 

I'd be happy to see the Bills draft a DE-LB with that #3, or trade it back and take Nate Solder-Tyron Smith-Gabe Carimi in the first. They went into last seasons draft with the O line as a " priority" and came out with a 5th and 7th. The 7th was cut in pre season and the 5th never saw a start even tho the team was desperate for stability at RT.

 

Run defense-pass rush- O line-TE, all work for me

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I am all for throwing a lot of picks to upgrade our sorry run D. It severely needs to be improved. We have some guys in Carrington, Troup and Moats who will help us with this. I think though, there needs to be a balance to drafting. We cannot be so fixated in one area to the point that we overlook superior, talented players at other positions who fall to us, who can also help in the long run. For example we could be throwing mid range picks at an above average or average defensive player even though there is a potential stud available at another position of slightly less need.

 

We need to upgrade the D in a big way, but I would not want us to reach too much and at the expense of not grabbing potential elite or above average talent in areas of lesser need. There needs to be a balance here. We can throw our focus at defense but at the same time keeping an open mind to picking a player or two who we think can really help us long term even if said player doesn't fill a huge gaping hole.

 

Bottom line is, we need playmakers. It's all balance, we can't so focus on one area of our team that we lose out on drafting someone of impact in another area. Let's be clear headed when each of our draft slots comes up. Upgrade our D but at the same time be open to other potential studs.

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I smell a 3rd round/maybe trade back up into 2nd round selection of a RT. Prospects for guys who project to the RT position looks somewhat deep this year. I think a DE, TE, and ILB will be the focus in free agency, although RT would be great too. Let's hope we get one folks......

Marcus Cannon could available and would be a HUGE upgrade.

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Here's a mock draft in which the Bills fall back to a team (which wants a QB) and they add a second rounder in return…

 

Round 1… OT

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyron-smith?id=2495435

 

Round 2a… TE

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kyle-rudolph?id=2495438

 

Round 2b… OG

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/ben-ijalana?id=2495174

OR

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/danny-watkins?id=2495360

 

Round 3…Best DL prospect (Nevis, Austin, Jenkins)

Round 4a…Best LB prospect (Moch, Matthews, McCarthy)

Round 4b…Best QB or DB prospect

 

 

I know that we have defense on the brain, but just think of what this kind of draft would do for us…

 

1. Tyron Smith

2a. Kyle Rudolf

2b. Ben Iialana or Danny Watkins

3. Nevis, Austin or Jenkins

4a. Moch, Matthews or McCarthy

4b. Best QB or DB prospect

 

I'm not saying that this is definitely what we should do, just that doing this would be very tempting.

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Trading down for more picks would allow filling more holes than standing pat @ 3.

I think it depends on who goes @ 1.

If the QB that BuddyChan wants is gone, they might try hard to move down.

I just hope it's not to Warshingtun for McNabb.

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Actually Pilsner, right now Moats is horrendous against the run. Everone has him pensiled in as a starting OLB but the guy has a loooong ways to go before he can play all 3 downs effectively. As of right now he's a 3rd down specialist at best, and it ain't even that special. I'm hoping for a Merriman Quinn QB sandwich myself............

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Trading down for more picks would allow filling more holes than standing pat @ 3.

I think it depends on who goes @ 1.

If the QB that BuddyChan wants is gone, they might try hard to move down.

I just hope it's not to Warshingtun for McNabb.

 

 

Don't worry, there's no way of that happening. Fitzpatrick is a hundred times better than McNabb right now.

 

McNabb is done as a starting QB and will either have to accept a backup roll or retire.

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I like it. Althought I think we could achieve the same goal by sitting tight, and take Ijelana or Sherrod to play LT/RT in the 2nd, and taking James Carpenter in the 3rd to play RT/OG and/or Moffit in the 4th.

 

We need bodies. Bad. Trading back is obviously the best thing we could do.

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right now this defense needs a lot more work than our O-line..the O-line held their own in several games last season...the defense was destroyed in pretty much every game.

 

I'd rather go with Defense w/higher picks in order to take advantage of higher impact/talented players and just role the dice with OL help from the 3rd/4th round onward. I wouldn't be against taking a solid T in the 2nd...but no way w/taking OL in the 1st round, even if we trade down. This year's draft class is extremely talented in the area we need most: DL. We should take advantage of that.

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right now this defense needs a lot more work than our O-line..the O-line held their own in several games last season...the defense was destroyed in pretty much every game.

 

I'd rather go with Defense w/higher picks in order to take advantage of higher impact/talented players and just role the dice with OL help from the 3rd/4th round onward. I wouldn't be against taking a solid T in the 2nd...but no way w/taking OL in the 1st round, even if we trade down. This year's draft class is extremely talented in the area we need most: DL. We should take advantage of that.

 

 

I think our run offense was pathetic. Our whole offense was Fitzpatrick and the WRs. Tyron Smith's measurables were the highlight of the OL weight in day. If you select this guy you may actually gain two #1 picks...Smith and CJ Spiller.

 

I'm not saying that I definitely want him, just that he should be considered if we trade down.

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I think our run offense was pathetic. Our whole offense was Fitzpatrick and the WRs. Tyron Smith's measurables were the highlight of the OL weight in day. If you select this guy you may actually gain two #1 picks...Smith and CJ Spiller.

 

I'm not saying that I definitely want him, just that he should be considered if we trade down.

 

Ya, i agree that our O-line wasn't great with respect to the running game, and we always seem to be outmatched in 3rd and short, failing to get much of a push at the LOS. That being said, we have a couple of young pieces in the OL that I still want to see more of, whereas we have gaping holes in our defense and simply need bodies..especialy now that stroud is gone. I dunno, to me our first pick should be DL and nothing else..whether it be fairley, dareus, or quinn. I just think that this year's draft is set up perfectly for us to address our most glaring need, which imo, is DL.

 

Also, on a practical level, I just can't see us taking a T in the first round b/c no T grades even close to being top 5..we'd have to trade down all the way to 10-12 probably to take the first tackle..it's hard to trade down that far.

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Ya, i agree that our O-line wasn't great with respect to the running game, and we always seem to be outmatched in 3rd and short, failing to get much of a push at the LOS. That being said, we have a couple of young pieces in the OL that I still want to see more of, whereas we have gaping holes in our defense and simply need bodies..especialy now that stroud is gone. I dunno, to me our first pick should be DL and nothing else..whether it be fairley, dareus, or quinn. I just think that this year's draft is set up perfectly for us to address our most glaring need, which imo, is DL.

 

Also, on a practical level, I just can't see us taking a T in the first round b/c no T grades even close to being top 5..we'd have to trade down all the way to 10-12 probably to take the first tackle..it's hard to trade down that far.

 

 

One thing the Bills should consider is trading back for a next years 1st round pick which could then be used in a trade up scenario for a franchise QB in 2012 (assuming that they wouldn't be in the same high pick situation as they are this year, I know, big assumption). Call it an insurance plan.

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I like it. Althought I think we could achieve the same goal by sitting tight, and take Ijelana or Sherrod to play LT/RT in the 2nd, and taking James Carpenter in the 3rd to play RT/OG and/or Moffit in the 4th.

 

We need bodies. Bad. Trading back is obviously the best thing we could do.

The Bills have plenty of "bodies"

 

 

what they need are blue chip playmakers- at whatever position they can find them

 

there is a higher likelihood of finding such playmaker the higher they pick

 

however, with the crackerjack geriactic talent evaluators the Bills have, it may be more important to make sure their selction will not be past their bedtime since the first 2 rounds will star :flirt: t late afternoon.

 

 

 

 

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Tyron Smith's measurables were the highlight of the OL weigh in day. If you select this guy you may actually gain two #1 picks...Smith and CJ Spiller.

 

I'm not saying that I definitely want him, just that he should be considered if we trade down.

 

 

The above bolded is true. His measurements, especially his frame, arm length and hand size were very pleasing to the scouts.

 

However I read that he left the combine abruptly this morning or last night.

 

Talk about a roller coaster for Smith.

 

 

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The above bolded is true. His measurements, especially his frame, arm length and hand size were very pleasing to the scouts.

 

However I read that he left the combine abruptly this morning or last night.

 

Talk about a roller coaster for Smith.

 

tweaked his knee...i'm thinking it could be from the extra weight he has been carrying...played at 280-290 but weighed in at 307

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tweaked his knee...i'm thinking it could be from the extra weight he has been carrying...played at 280-290 but weighed in at 307

Thanks aristocrat.

 

He still has his pro day, I guess. I also saw where he did 29 on the bench press. Not horrible, not great, but apparently he has a pretty nice frame for adding weight, provided his knees are sound.

 

I wonder if he already did his interviews. Not very much info out there on his leaving the combine.

 

 

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