Welcome To Pegulavilla Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The Bills will be in a interesting predicament if the first 2 picks of the draft are Fairley and Bowers. If this wereto happen who do we pick at #3? Dareus who's not ranked in the top 5 picks o do we draft a QB there instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 For all of you saying this was stupid, please see Sam Bradford. A good QB is a good QB. No coach is going to come to Stanford and put a scheme in place that will fail to exploit Andrew Luck's talent. Personally, if I were Andrew Luck, I'd probably stay too. First off, he might leave school, go pro, and then be kept off the field for a year until the labor situation is resolved. Second off, the kid is wealthy already, its not like he needs the money. Third off, Stanford is a good school if you haven't heard, its not a bad idea to graduate. And lastly, I don't know about you, but I don't mind knowing that this is a principled kid who won't make decisions off the basis of a pay check. Also, redshirt sophomores are don't necessarily have the highest success rate of rookie QBs. Just sayin', its not as outlandish as people want to think. Yeah, because its not as if Luck could go back to Stanford when his playing days are over or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If I was a Carolina fan right now I would be pissed beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Did you have the same opinion about Peyton Manning in 1997 when the Jets wanted him at #1 & he stayed in college? His competitive nature must have been questioned & he dropped in the 1998 draft to ....#1. Maybe he's so competitive that he'd rather take the sure thing & play than have his rookie year be a guessing game as to whether a lockout would keep him from playing. He might just feel like playing rather than sitting out 2011. Really smart QBs can understand that an extra year in college can't hurt them when their families have money and that the most successful QBs spent more time playing college ball, not less. By the 2012 season, Luck will have his degree and be ready to enter the April 2012 draft. I'm sure getting his degree now instead a few years from now will really impress all the NFL GM's, the ones who will be paying him $60m. This decision is all risk and zero reward. Carolina already came out and said he will be the #1 pick. Manning played at a football factory. Luck goes to one of the best schools in the country where athletes take serious classes and are expected to attend and do the work. Edited January 6, 2011 by BuffaloRebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 That's a shame. Probably means we won't get Fairley now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bradford wasn't the prospect that Luck was at the same time and also needed to fill out. Bradford was not a slam dunk top pick or even top 5 pick at the end of his sophomore year. Oklahoma also competes for a national title every year. I don't think Bradford mentioned staying for any reason other than football. Locker, like Luck, cited not wanting to leave the college atmosphere. Huge red flag. Bradford was at the top of the list of QB's that year along with Stafford and Sanchez. Bradford could very well have been the #1 overall pick of the Lions that year. It was talked about over and over again. Not really sure where you were back then my friend. Also, Luck is staying to get a degree and not chasing the money. I applaud the young man for doing what he is doing even when it is frowned upon and counted as weakness by some, but nothing could be further from the truth. Like I said, comparing Luck to Locker is ridiculous @ any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah, unless he values his education. One bad break or Russelling it could send him into the regular world. With only half a college education he has to go back to college. Staying and finishing he gets to walk away with little worries. Wouldn't be easier to go back to school after a career ending knee injury with 70 mil in your pocket, as opposed to suffering that knee injury in college before you cash in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 i know the thinking is panthers will take offense, especially WR, but i dont think anyone other than Newton on offense is worth #1 overall. but I dont think they take Newton with Clausen there. so my guess is they take fairley to replace peppers, which hurts us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Holy Crap! Who'da thunk it? props to the senator......you called it ......thanks for not takin my $10 bet....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This is good news because now the Bills can draft on Defense like they really should do. I think the Bills are smart enough (hopefully) to draft the best Dlineman on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Bradford was at the top of the list of QB's that year along with Stafford and Sanchez. Bradford could very well have been the #1 overall pick of the Lions that year. It was talked about over and over again. Not really sure where you were back then my friend. Also, Luck is staying to get a degree and not chasing the money. I applaud the young man for doing what he is doing even when it is frowned upon and counted as weakness by some, but nothing could be further from the truth. Like I said, comparing Luck to Locker is ridiculous @ any level. Bradford 'could very well have been' is RIDICULOUSLY different than being told you will be the #1 pick by the team picking. I'm glad you applaud him. You also probably have zero concept of risk and reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Also, it will be interesting to see how Luck does next CFB season. Will he be another Locker or another Bradford? Don't forget - he has TWO more years of eligibilty! Well, academically, he'll be done as a student - supposedly taking 19 credit units this next term just to stay on schedule for Spring 2012 graduation . I don't know what the rules are or if it's ever been done, but I suppose he could go for a Masters Degree and play while in grad school. Luck is a rare talent and even rarer individual - how many guys actually graduate (from Stanford, no less) with a year of eligibility left? . Edited January 6, 2011 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb Riddick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 No risk to saying you are going back to school right now...you can probably get a bunch of girls for the next 8 weeks, figure out whether the CBA gets resolved...and then change your mind if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The Bills will be in a interesting predicament if the first 2 picks of the draft are Fairley and Bowers. If this wereto happen who do we pick at #3? Dareus who's not ranked in the top 5 picks o do we draft a QB there instead? I take BPA which might ultimately be AJ Green. Lot of things need to shake out between now and then, like Senior Bowl, combine, pro days. Green IMHO, is the safest pick not to bust in the draft, but I would prefer Fairley. No risk to saying you are going back to school right now...you can probably get a bunch of girls for the next 8 weeks, figure out whether the CBA gets resolved...and then change your mind if you like. They have until the 15th of January to declare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 For what it's worth, the talking heads on Twitter (Schefter, Mort, King, etc.) are saying that the rookie cap WILL be in place for this year so he is not leaving as much money on the table as people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 he's a lock to go #1 in this draft.....can't do any better than that......he cost himself ALOT of money in 2011 (will lose an entire years income playing for free)......you can always go back to school.....that rookie wage scale is gonna make a huge difference in 2012. i hope it works out for him....while many will think it's admirable......i think it's foolish. and again.....props to The Senator for calling his return to Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Gotta respect his decision. He understands the value of an education. But to walk away from the amount of money that he is going to walk away from and set your family up for life is admirable yet leaves me scratching my head a little bit. Nonetheless, kudos to Luck for sticking to his guns. Since the end of last season when all the LUCK fans kept dreaming about him coming to the NFL I kept wondering ... is this kid going to finish his four years and graduate or leave early? I am happy to see him pick college because I never felt he was ready to go pro, still young, and he is not the pick we need this year. Now, we can just focus on our defense ... and let Fitz lead us for another year, which will also be the telling year for his capabilities to be a true leader since I am assuming (some may say dreaming) that the Bills will have a better defense in 2011 (if there is a season) and with a better defense comes a better offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I take BPA which might ultimately be AJ Green. Lot of things need to shake out between now and then, like Senior Bowl, combine, pro days. Green IMHO, is the safest pick not to bust in the draft, but I would prefer Fairley. They have until the 15th of January to declare. There's an antidote to 1/15. Say the labor agreement gets done in June. Luck signs with an agent, is declared ineligible & enters the supplemental draft where Carolina has drafted #1 & now gets Luck too. It's not likely to happen that way, but it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Maybe Luck doesn't like the idea of being tied to Carolina for 4-6 years, on a team that looks to be the worst team in the NFL, whose one nationally recognizable star - Steve Smith - is aging and doesn't have a lot of years left. So, if Luck has two passions in life - football and Architecture - then finishing his degree will ensure that he can do either if he chooses, and maybe next year he'll like the looks of the team that is likely to choose him - and, if Harbaugh takes a job with a team in the NFL and does poorly his first year, or can manage to trade into the spot where Luck could be drafted, maybe he holds out hope of some future like that? As for how this will effect us: there are more than 2 star football players in this draft. All we have to do is be sure that we land a really talented, difference maker with our 1st pick. If it is an all pr OLB, DE, DT, OL, or QB - it doesn't matter, really, so long as the guy is a stud and will help us. If we can trade down a little and still get a contributor, then great, too. There will probably be Quinn, Bowers, Fairley, Von Miller to choose from as far as pass rushers - so, either of those guys would probably help us, and I don't think anyone can say, for sure, who will end up being the best of the bunch of top prospects. All in all, this Luck decision shouldn't really hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I don't know why everybody is so happy about this, we weren't going to get him anyway and now I'm willing to bet Fairley goes 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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