PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The $40 million figure you cited is very bogus. He is going to make $3.5 million this year with a $250,000 bonus. He is basically on a year to year deal. If the Skins decide to trade or release him they don't have to pay him. Odds are the team will prefer to go in another direction and will have no financial obligations with respect to him. Your posting of $40 M contract is grossly inaccurate. The below figures are not close to your fictitious figures. • 2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games • 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives • 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives So why extend a guy you're going to bench? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Shanahan and McNabb are two people that I am glad we did not get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 So why extend a guy you're going to bench? PTR His contract is basically a year to year contract. They extended his contract (on a year to year basis) because they wanted to make sure they had a qb on board if there was a lockout and a potentially brief training camp. They simply wanted to cover that position just in case. There is no doubt that they are dissatisfied with his performance. They took a calculated risk and so far it hasn't worked out. They never expected DM to be a longterm solution at qb. He was basically a bridge qb for the next prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) Jay Glazer reported that Donovan McNabb and Rex Grossman were splitting first team snaps in practice last week. Chris Mortensen hears that there's a chance that Grossman starts this Sunday against Dallas. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/ At 1;00 pm on the NFL Channel, Coach Shannahan held a news conference and indicated that McNabb is now their third string QB for the rest of the season. He said that since his team is mathematically out of the playoffs, he wants to see whathis other guys can do in a game situation, to plan for next year. I wonder what the fan reaction would be if Buffalo did the same thing. I know some of you have suggested that regarding a few positions on the team. What is your opinion? Edited December 17, 2010 by BillsfaninFl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Well Bills Fans, it could be worse, we could be Redskins (or should I say Deadskins) fans. Strong;y rumored this week to be sitting down the QB (Donavan McNabb) that you gave up a 2 & 3 draft choice for Rex "Freakin" Grossman. This is as disfunctional a franchise as there is in the league. Example #2 - Give $21 million to a player who doesn't give a crap and is suspended for the last 4 games of the year. There is hope yet for the Bills -- a team that makes them look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 It goes to show you that you cant just spend a boatload of cash and get the most shiny toys available and you are going to win.... Im not positive that we have it completely correct either....its gotta be somewhere in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) Well Bills Fans, it could be worse, we could be Redskins (or should I say Deadskins) fans. Strong;y rumored this week to be sitting down the QB (Donavan McNabb) that you gave up a 2 & 3 draft choice for Rex "Freakin" Grossman. This is as disfunctional a franchise as there is in the league. Example #2 - Give $21 million to a player who doesn't give a crap and is suspended for the last 4 games of the year. There is hope yet for the Bills -- a team that makes them look good. Redskins-5 wins Bills-3 wins ?????????? It is bad in Washington, but until we start winning more games than they do, and have an owner that even though he gets in the way, doesn't have a padlock on his wallet and is willing to do whatever it takes to win, nobody in their right mind can say it is worse. We gave up a first and other picks for J.P. Losman. Traded a first round pick for Rob Johnson that turned out to be Fred Taylor. Gave up a first for Drew Bledsoe (that one isn't as bad, they dumped him too early). If D.C. was worse, why would Shanahan go there and not even entertain coming here no matter the salary? The answer-ownership, plain and simple. Edited December 17, 2010 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Redskins-5 wins Bills-3 wins ?????????? It is bad in Washington, but until we start winning more games than they do, and have an owner that even though he gets in the way, doesn't have a padlock on his wallet and is willing to do whatever it takes to win, nobody in their right mind can say it is worse. We gave up a first and other picks for J.P. Losman. Traded a first round pick for Rob Johnson that turned out to be Fred Taylor. Gave up a first for Drew Bledsoe (that one isn't as bad, they dumped him too early). If D.C. was worse, why would Shanahan go there and not even entertain coming here no matter the salary? The answer-ownership, plain and simple. That is simply not the way to assess this situation. Neither team is going to the playoffs by a mile, so we're on even ground there... From that point on everything is measured relative to the indicators for the future: -- Are you getting stronger/better during the course of the season and finishing solid (we'll get the final answer on that in the next 3 weeks) -- Do you have you have the coach for foreseeable future? -- Do you have your QB for the foreseeable future? -- How many new starters are you away from contending? .... plus others I can't think of at the moment On both qualitative questions and measurable football metrics we've improved each quarter of the season so far, while the Redskins clearly have gotten worse, despite the high priced coach of the year and the big pro-bowl, possible hall of famer QB that several wanted us trading for The original poster is correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 At 1;00 pm on the NFL Channel, Coach Shannahan held a news conference and indicated that McNabb is now their third string QB for the rest of the season. He said that since his team is mathematically out of the playoffs, he wants to see whathis other guys can do in a game situation, to plan for next year. I wonder what the fan reaction would be if Buffalo did the same thing. I know some of you have suggested that regarding a few positions on the team. What is your opinion? Fitz looks to be the starter going forward, so the Bills are doing the right thing. However Grossman is a schlub and starting him is dumb. Then again, John Beck is even more of a schlub so I guess it doesn't really matter. Which makes not finding a QB to groom the worst decision by Shanahan so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Redskins-5 wins Bills-3 wins ?????????? It is bad in Washington, but until we start winning more games than they do, and have an owner that even though he gets in the way, doesn't have a padlock on his wallet and is willing to do whatever it takes to win, nobody in their right mind can say it is worse. We gave up a first and other picks for J.P. Losman. Traded a first round pick for Rob Johnson that turned out to be Fred Taylor. Gave up a first for Drew Bledsoe (that one isn't as bad, they dumped him too early). If D.C. was worse, why would Shanahan go there and not even entertain coming here no matter the salary? The answer-ownership, plain and simple. The Bills would have 5 wins at least with the Redskins' schedule. But the Redskins had playoff hopes going into this season. The Bills were just supposed to be in the first year of rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The Bills would have 5 wins at least with the Redskins' schedule. But the Redskins had playoff hopes going into this season. The Bills were just supposed to be in the first year of rebuilding. No they didn't they were worse than us last season. They had Dallas, Giants and Eagles that were all expecte to be in the playoff hunt with the skins hoping to win 4 total. They've exceeded what they expected this year and they've done so with a lot more injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Rexy will start and McNabb will be his backup. Word is that the following week McNabb will be the emergency QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Redskins-5 wins Bills-3 wins ?????????? It is bad in Washington, but until we start winning more games than they do, and have an owner that even though he gets in the way, doesn't have a padlock on his wallet and is willing to do whatever it takes to win, nobody in their right mind can say it is worse. We gave up a first and other picks for J.P. Losman. Traded a first round pick for Rob Johnson that turned out to be Fred Taylor. Gave up a first for Drew Bledsoe (that one isn't as bad, they dumped him too early). If D.C. was worse, why would Shanahan go there and not even entertain coming here no matter the salary? The answer-ownership, plain and simple. Jeebuz, do you read your own posts? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 No they didn't they were worse than us last season. They had Dallas, Giants and Eagles that were all expecte to be in the playoff hunt with the skins hoping to win 4 total. They've exceeded what they expected this year and they've done so with a lot more injuries. So the expectations after adding Shanahan, already having Haynesworth, drafting in the top-5, and trading for McNabb (which was supposed to have weakened the Eagles), were that they weren't going to contend for a playoff spot? Not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 So the expectations after adding Shanahan, already having Haynesworth, drafting in the top-5, and trading for McNabb (which was supposed to have weakened the Eagles), were that they weren't going to contend for a playoff spot? Not quite. Go look it up. They were picked last in that division by everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 So the expectations after adding Shanahan, already having Haynesworth, drafting in the top-5, and trading for McNabb (which was supposed to have weakened the Eagles), were that they weren't going to contend for a playoff spot? Not quite. The Bills haters have to be contortionists to spin what's going on in DC as somehow better than what is going on in Buffalo. They could work for BP. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The Bills haters have to be contortionists to spin what's going on in DC as somehow better than what is going on in Buffalo. They could work for BP. I don't know if I'd call them Bills haters so much as Bills bitchers, but I agree with your other point. I'm sure these same ones would be ready to ride Shanahan out on a rail if he were the coach of the Bills and the Bills were in the same situation as the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Go look it up. They were picked last in that division by everyone. Yeah but they weren't picked worst team in the NFL! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yeah but they weren't picked worst team in the NFL! PTR Where did I say they were going to be the worst team in the NFL? They were expected to be at the Bills level roughly 4 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Where did I say they were going to be the worst team in the NFL? They were expected to be at the Bills level roughly 4 wins. The Bills were picked for 0-2 wins. The Skins were picked for 4-6. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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