BeastMode54 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I really thought Nelson would develop into a great pass catching threat from the TE spot. He's built like a large WR. Maybe that' his problem, he's too small to stay and help block. My question is, and this is because I can't look at the film, is he not open? Is he running bad routes? Does Chan simply not want to throw to the TE? Coverage underneath could be exposed with a decent TE and that would make our WR's that much better (which is a scary thought). Could Nelson still be our TE of the future? I just want to know from any of you out there that may have looked at the game film more closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The main reason right now, IMO, is that Gailey does not trust the OL enough to block, and keeps David Martin in to help them out. When we go to a more spread offense, he will play WRs instead of TEs, and it has been working. Throw in the missed time because of injury and suspension that Nelson had, along with his fumble and drop (albeit, the fumble was a terrible call IMO), he's just not getting on the field much. It's hard to argue with the results of the WRs in the passing game, although throwing Nelson in the mix, if not a liability in the blocking game, could be even more explosive. We're probably going to have to wait for next year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bflojohn Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 If the Bills look at the New England/Pittsburgh film, they would be wise to have Shawn Nelson's coming out party this weekend! The Patriots exposed the weakness in the Steeler defense, and that was covering the young TE's throughout the game. Rob Gronkowski had two Td's and Aaron Hernandez had a good game too. Both of these players are ahead of Nelson professionally, but if Carrington and Troup are being brought along as rookies, I'd find a way to get my athletic, 2nd year TE involved. Just saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Our TE's don't create the mismatches they are supposed to. They can't block the way they should and they are no threat one-on-one w/ anyone (including LBs) when there is no uncertainty if they will be going in or out... Â Bottom line they suck. Â Just watch Martin out there...he can't block worth a damn...and if he shows up in passing game it's only b/c he has no choice but to be open and get the ball... Edited November 22, 2010 by dayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Our TE's don't create the mismatches they are supposed to. They can't block the way they should and they are no threat one-on-one w/ anyone (including LBs) when there is no uncertainty if they will be going in or out... Â Bottom line they suck. Â Just watch Martin out there...he can't block worth a damn...and if he shows up in passing game it's only b/c he has no choice but to be open and get the ball... I just think Chan's offense does not try and utilize a TE. To me ,Nelson is so fast and tall that no LB could keep up with him if we isolated him aon a LB and tried to get him ethe ball in the seems like New England does in their offense. That, being said, Martin is too slow and sucks all around. At least Nelson might be able to catch a pass and go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Our TE's don't create the mismatches they are supposed to. They can't block the way they should and they are no threat one-on-one w/ anyone (including LBs) when there is no uncertainty if they will be going in or out... Â Bottom line they suck. Â Just watch Martin out there...he can't block worth a damn...and if he shows up in passing game it's only b/c he has no choice but to be open and get the ball... Â If mis-matches in coverage was all that is to be considered, then Nelson would fit the bill very well. His route running may or may not be where it needs to be, but Nelson has displayed good hands and clearly he has speed for a TE. Other factors delaying his development might be his suspension, Chan's comfort running the spread with the WR's, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Nelson has def been a dissapointment. Hopefully we can find a solid all around guy this offseason while Nelson can grow as the complimentary guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Last year wasn't a great year for TE's. Outside of Pettigrew, who is tied for the most receptions for a TE in the NFL, not a single other TE from that draft class is in the top-32 in receiving in the NFL. This year was a better one for drafting one it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Last year wasn't a great year for TE's. Outside of Pettigrew, who is tied for the most receptions for a TE in the NFL, not a single other TE from that draft class is in the top-32 in receiving in the NFL. This year was a better one for drafting one it seems. The pats picked up 2 TEs that have a combined 55 catches, nearly 700 yards and 9 TDs. Hernandez has almost as many yards and a far better ypc than Pettigrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldstorage5 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 TE's??? Do we have TE's?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I saw the 88 make a crushing block Sunday that led to a TD or big gain. I can't remember the exact play but it was key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) The pats picked up 2 TEs that have a combined 55 catches, nearly 700 yards and 9 TDs. Hernandez has almost as many yards and a far better ypc than Pettigrew. Hence the "This year was a better one for drafting one it seems" comment. Â As for Hernandez, in hindsight drafting him over Easley would have been better. But then all you would have talking about is him failing multiple drug tests in college. Â But I can't hate on the kid. He's a good player and from the next town over (which is also the home of ESPN). Edited November 23, 2010 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hence the "This year was a better one for drafting one it seems" comment. Â As for Hernandez, in hindsight drafting him over Easley would have been better. But then all you would have talking about is him failing multiple drug tests in college. Â But I can't hate on the kid. He's a good player and from the next town over (which is also the home of ESPN). Yeah, I would say picking Hernandez instead of Easley would have been better. A top TE prospect vs yet another WR. Â Don't hear anything about any failed drug tests.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 From anything i've ever heard about Gailey he's not a big TE type of coach but with nelson's talents i hope he finds a way to use him . Â That would just give us one more weapon . Plus too the guy was out for 4 games and had to get into playing shape and was behind as far as reps with the ones & timing a familiarity is all part of good offense's . I think there's still hope for him !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Yeah, I would say picking Hernandez instead of Easley would have been better. A top TE prospect vs yet another WR. LOL! A "top TE prospect"...that fell to the 4th round (that's where Shawn Nelson was picked)? And "yet another WR"...when the Bills had let TO walk and cut Reed? Hindsight sure is great, isn't it? Don't hear anything about any failed drug tests.... Gee, what a shock. Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 A top TE prospect vs yet another WR. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 We'll see. Doesn't matter to WEO if Easley proves to be a stud. He knew Johnson and Parrish would break out and David Nelson and Donald Jones would contribute, thus making Easley a dumb pick. All the while knowing Hernandez would be a stud, but "not knowing about"/ignoring his own admission of pot use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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