Does the Wang injury force a move?

[BuffaloBlood]

If Wangs injury is serious is there any chance that it forces the Bills hand and they go ahead and meet Baltimores demands for Gaither or will they sign some new scrub to add to our LT depth?

[nucci]

If Wangs injury is serious is there any chance that it forces the Bills hand and they go ahead and meet Baltimores demands for Gaither or will they sign some new scrub to add to our LT depth?

As you said, depends how serious. If he is ready by camp then no.

[CardinalScotts]

scrub - maybe off the packers practice squad seems to be their go to move

[DanInSouthBuffalo]

Wang wasn't figuring into a starters position anyway...yet...so he'll miss a bit of the "learning curve" however long he will be out. Hopefully he's ready by camp to get some game reps. I was hoping Wang would also get some reps at RT since that's where he first started in college.

 

There doesn't seem to be any depth at RT either. I haven't heard thing-one about the RT the Bills picked in the 7th (Kyle Calloway). That's either a good thing or very bad.

[Ghost of Rob Johnson]

Wang wasn't figuring into a starters position anyway...yet...so he'll miss a bit of the "learning curve" however long he will be out. Hopefully he's ready by camp to get some game reps. I was hoping Wang would also get some reps at RT since that's where he first started in college.

 

There doesn't seem to be any depth at RT either. I haven't heard thing-one about the RT the Bills picked in the 7th (Kyle Calloway). That's either a good thing or very bad.

He's playing guard.

[GrudginglyPessimistic]

Force is too strong a word. I don't think anyone seriously had Wang pegged as anything more than providing back-up depth on this OL as a fifth round choice. Before the Wang injury the Bills had something between serious question marks to glaring holes at LT and RT with Green and Bell. Today with injury to Wang the Bills have the same issue and holes at the T positions.

 

Few (if no one seriously) saw Wang as the likely answer here. The Bills had big time pressure yesterday and it has only increased marginally today.

[DarthICE]

Nix is big on keeping draft picks, but he has to finally say 'hey will a 2nd rounder next year do more for this team than X player we can trade for'?

 

I don't see any LT's out there that can do better coming out in the 2nd round than Gaither can do for us now. It makes sense to pull the trigger for someone.

 

Hell we might go out and get fat boy that is still on the street. That would at least be a 1-2 year stopgap while we got one of our other guys ready.

[BuffaloBlood]

Im just at a loss as to how the Bills front office and coaching staff can take a look at our tackles, both starters and depth, and not shudder. Last year we went in with major questions on the line and the staff said we will be fine and we were not. By the looks of things this line may actually be worse than it was last year. Bell and Wood comming off injury. Cornell Green..... really? I think Hangarder is a solid depth guy but not a top notch starter. LeVitre is the only guy I have confidence in this year. Yes I do think that LeVitre and Wood are our guards for years to come and I love those picks but..... what is more important in todays NFL tackles or guards? DO YOU KNOW HOW EMBARASSING GAMES AGAINST THE JETS BLITZ ARE GOING TO BE!!???!!!

 

If there plan is to let young guys get experience and lose a lot so we can draft our QB of the future next year with a top 3 pick than fine. But how does that solve the protection issue. You failed to address it in the draft again and now with a possible chance to get a very solid if not very good LT from Baltimore for a 2nd you decide against it? Is it because we know for sure that pick will be a top 3 in round 2? Why not move Lynch for a third and see if they will take two thirds for Gaithier instead? I know its not as simple as im making it sound but when I read articles saying that the Bills line this year may be one of the worst in history it is freaking depressing.

 

Through all that though I will still say.......GO BILLS!!

[thewildrabbit]

Im just at a loss as to how the Bills front office and coaching staff can take a look at our tackles, both starters and depth, and not shudder. Last year we went in with major questions on the line and the staff said we will be fine and we were not. By the looks of things this line may actually be worse than it was last year. Bell and Wood comming off injury. Cornell Green..... really? I think Hangarder is a solid depth guy but not a top notch starter. LeVitre is the only guy I have confidence in this year. Yes I do think that LeVitre and Wood are our guards for years to come and I love those picks but..... what is more important in todays NFL tackles or guards? DO YOU KNOW HOW EMBARASSING GAMES AGAINST THE JETS BLITZ ARE GOING TO BE!!???!!!

 

If there plan is to let young guys get experience and lose a lot so we can draft our QB of the future next year with a top 3 pick than fine. But how does that solve the protection issue. You failed to address it in the draft again and now with a possible chance to get a very solid if not very good LT from Baltimore for a 2nd you decide against it? Is it because we know for sure that pick will be a top 3 in round 2? Why not move Lynch for a third and see if they will take two thirds for Gaithier instead? I know its not as simple as im making it sound but when I read articles saying that the Bills line this year may be one of the worst in history it is freaking depressing.

 

Through all that though I will still say.......GO BILLS!!

Amen brother...

 

Plus the Bills new O line coach is an assistant from KC... that gives me some peace of mind

 

Look at it this way, should the Bills lose enough to be in position to draft next years #1 overall ...I highly doubt Gailey will still be the head coach. Looking at the draft and the way the team is being built with no real changes to the O line-QB-WR positions, I believe the Bills hired an offensive minded Dick Jauron.

 

How this franchise can keep paying millions of dollars to inferior coaches is beyond me, the old adage "you get what you pay for" still escapes RW. The Bills coulda had Martyball...he wanted the Bills job badly.

 

 

 

I had so much hope for the Buffalo Bills finally becoming a winner again after RW fired Jauron, and there was talk about Shanahan and Cowher becoming the next Bills head coach. Now, I find that that hope has done a rapid 180, and as the season gets closer all I can do is despair at the thought of what this team will look like in 2010.

[tonyjustbcuz]

If Wangs injury is serious is there any chance that it forces the Bills hand and they go ahead and meet Baltimores demands for Gaither or will they sign some new scrub to add to our LT depth?

 

 

I don't know Wang alone forces Buffalo's hand, but in my opinion I think they should try to add talent at every opportunity to the Offensive line, especially at left tackle when the opportunity presents itself. I think they should try to trade Lynch for Gaither even up as Lynch could become a very good to great running back if he gains some mental maturity. I think Gaither is good to very good and would fit Buffalo's needs. He obviously isn't a good enough all-around player for Baltimore to bypass drafting Michael Oher 2 yrs ago, but he is an obvious upgrade to what we have currently on our roster. Baltimore feels that he only fits at Right tackle on their roster and during his absence the Ravens had a couple players step-in and impress the coaching staff making Gaither expendible.

I think this trade would be valuable to both clubs, and Lynch may have more upside in the long-term. I think that there is a reluctance on Baltimore's part to trade with Buffalo, as the Willis McGahee deal really hasn't panned out as well as Baltimore had hoped for. I think that Baltimore realizes that their defense is of championship caliber, and that they need to continue to improve on offense. I think that Lynch could potentially be an added dimension to Baltimore's offensive dynamics. I feel that Buffalo may have some reservations on trading for Gaither as there have been whispers about him lacking in work ethic and having an attitude similar to Jason Peters.

The first thing that Gaither's agent will attempt to do after Gaither is traded is to seek a new contract. The big bucks that left tackles demand in the NFL may may be more than the Bills are willing to spend on a roster that is young, rebuilding, and still missing parts. This may be the very reason that I would want to land Gaither in a trade. It comes down to risk versus reward, and this is the same reason why the Bills waited until late in the draft to select a QB instead of selecting one of the front-runner QB's that were available in the draft. They instead made a more conservative, safe pick instead of spending big money on a 1st or 2nd round QB that could be the next Jim Kelly or a bust in the likes of Ryan Leaf. I don't see the Bills actually making this trade with Baltimore. I believe which ever team blinks first loses in a trade of Lynch for Gaither, and I could see Baltimore asking for an additional draft pick besides Lynch or next year's 2nd round pick instead of a player, which has already been established in previous reports. Either way trading for Gaither is a balzy move, and there is an element of risk involved, just like any trade. I really believe Buddy Nix is trying to build almost solely through the draft process, and if that approach works it will require patience, and time. I believe the Bills could become playoff capable in 2012 based on that philosophy...providing they retain their better players and pay to keep them here, rather than losing them in free agency. .

Here is my guess as to what the Bills are really doing in regards to Lynch, think the Bills are going to hang on to Lynch until a team in the league sustains a RB injury on it's roster. I think the Bills realize that eventually there will be a need for a RB somewhere, and when that need arises that the Bills will hold the advantage and be able to demand the second round draft pick for 2011 that they covet for Lynch's services. It's poker time at One Bills Drive!!!

[apuszczalowski]

Wang is listed as the 3rd string LT right now, so of course losing Wang now forces the Bills to cave into whatever demands Baltimore has for an unmotivated, and lazy starter LT!

[Malazan]

Wang is listed as the 3rd string LT right now, so of course losing Wang now forces the Bills to cave into whatever demands Baltimore has for an unmotivated, and lazy starter LT!

 

Make Sense. Without Wang, All is Lost.

[drewfla]

He was practice squad bound anyway.

[ChasBB]

When looking at entire OL roster, just amazing how youthful it is ...

 

More Than 2 Years Experience:

74 Green, Cornell 6-6 315 33 9 Central Florida

63 Hangartner, Geoff 6-5 301 28 6 Texas A&M

73 Chambers, Kirk 6-7 315 31 6 Stanford

 

2nd Year:

70 Wood, Eric 6-4 315 24 2 Louisville

77 Bell, Demetrius 6-5 307 26 2 Northwestern State

61 Gaddis, Christian 6-1 300 25 2 Villanova

67 Levitre, Andy 6-2 305 24 2 Oregon State

69 Meredith, Jamon 6-5 304 24 2 South Carolina

76 Ramsey, Andre 6-5 322 22 2 Ball State

 

1st Year (but non-rookie):

66 Watkins, Jason 6-6 325 24 1 Florida

79 Hennessey, Nick 6-5 291 23 1 Colgate

 

Rookies:

75 Allen, Sean 6-3 305 22 R East Carolina

60 Calloway, Kyle 6-7 315 22 R Iowa

62 Guerra, Jorge 6-3 300 22 R Texas A&M - Kingsville

68 Howard, Cordaro 6-4 314 22 R Georgia Tech

71 Wang, Ed 6-5 301 23 R Virginia Tech

[BuffaloBlood]

When looking at entire OL roster, just amazing how youthful it is ...

 

More Than 2 Years Experience:

74 Green, Cornell 6-6 315 33 9 Central Florida

63 Hangartner, Geoff 6-5 301 28 6 Texas A&M

73 Chambers, Kirk 6-7 315 31 6 Stanford

 

2nd Year:

70 Wood, Eric 6-4 315 24 2 Louisville

77 Bell, Demetrius 6-5 307 26 2 Northwestern State

61 Gaddis, Christian 6-1 300 25 2 Villanova

67 Levitre, Andy 6-2 305 24 2 Oregon State

69 Meredith, Jamon 6-5 304 24 2 South Carolina

76 Ramsey, Andre 6-5 322 22 2 Ball State

 

1st Year (but non-rookie):

66 Watkins, Jason 6-6 325 24 1 Florida

79 Hennessey, Nick 6-5 291 23 1 Colgate

 

Rookies:

75 Allen, Sean 6-3 305 22 R East Carolina

60 Calloway, Kyle 6-7 315 22 R Iowa

62 Guerra, Jorge 6-3 300 22 R Texas A&M - Kingsville

68 Howard, Cordaro 6-4 314 22 R Georgia Tech

71 Wang, Ed 6-5 301 23 R Virginia Tech

 

And this is a good thing?

[ChasBB]

And this is a good thing?

No, I did not say it was a good thing. I just didn't realize HOW young we were across-the-board on the OL until I looked over the entire OL roster.

[BillsVet]

Im just at a loss as to how the Bills front office and coaching staff can take a look at our tackles, both starters and depth, and not shudder. Last year we went in with major questions on the line and the staff said we will be fine and we were not. By the looks of things this line may actually be worse than it was last year. Bell and Wood comming off injury. Cornell Green..... really? I think Hangarder is a solid depth guy but not a top notch starter. LeVitre is the only guy I have confidence in this year. Yes I do think that LeVitre and Wood are our guards for years to come and I love those picks but..... what is more important in todays NFL tackles or guards? DO YOU KNOW HOW EMBARASSING GAMES AGAINST THE JETS BLITZ ARE GOING TO BE!!???!!!

 

Nix has already said you can't do it all in one year. I'm paraphrasing of course, but the point is this is a 2+ year rebuild and results probably won't be there very quickly.

 

The OT starters and depth are very poor, but offensive lineman don't sell tickets either. While some fans are gushing about Spiller, I bet every personnel guy at OBD realizes that the OL is again a huge question mark with marginal talent. Last year plenty of fans on this very board glossed over the details of moving guys, trading Peters, and starting rookies. We know how that worked out. And it's happening all over again thinking project players like Bell, Meredith, and Wang are going to be dependable starters.

[spartacus]

Nix has already said you can't do it all in one year. I'm paraphrasing of course, but the point is this is a 2+ year rebuild and results probably won't be there very quickly.

 

The OT starters and depth are very poor, but offensive lineman don't sell tickets either. While some fans are gushing about Spiller, I bet every personnel guy at OBD realizes that the OL is again a huge question mark with marginal talent. Last year plenty of fans on this very board glossed over the details of moving guys, trading Peters, and starting rookies. We know how that worked out. And it's happening all over again thinking project players like Bell, Meredith, and Wang are going to be dependable starters.

 

hey - it's not like Bell or Wang are injured and missing time or anything

 

what's the problem?

 

these guys are all young, so they will all mature and jell together

 

They have to be good since Buddy said so and did not bring in any replacements or upgrades

the more time passes, the more they will magically become real NFL players

[marsadale]

Amen brother...

 

Plus the Bills new O line coach is an assistant from KC... that gives me some peace of mind

 

Look at it this way, should the Bills lose enough to be in position to draft next years #1 overall ...I highly doubt Gailey will still be the head coach. Looking at the draft and the way the team is being built with no real changes to the O line-QB-WR positions, I believe the Bills hired an offensive minded Dick Jauron.

 

How this franchise can keep paying millions of dollars to inferior coaches is beyond me, the old adage "you get what you pay for" still escapes RW. The Bills coulda had Martyball...he wanted the Bills job badly.

 

 

 

I had so much hope for the Buffalo Bills finally becoming a winner again after RW fired Jauron, and there was talk about Shanahan and Cowher becoming the next Bills head coach. Now, I find that that hope has done a rapid 180, and as the season gets closer all I can do is despair at the thought of what this team will look like in 2010.

looks like the world cup's gonna have a new fan, eh?

[sharper802]

If Wangs injury is serious is there any chance that it forces the Bills hand and they go ahead and meet Baltimores demands for Gaither or will they sign some new scrub to add to our LT depth?

You are equating a 5th round rookie with a proven starting LT???? Don't be ridiculous. If he is done for the year he goes on IR and we sign some other stiff to be a back-up swing guard- tackle. If we are serious about getting a quality LT then they go after Gaither. My hunch is they are going to stick with Bell at LT and they were hoping Wang might be suitable for RT in a year or two.