Hammered a Lot Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Women's half pipe was pretty disappointing, though the U.S. ended up with Silver and Bronze. Overall, it was a very sloppy competition - pretty much the opposite of the men's. What I watched was the event held in the afternoon. One side of the pipe, in the shade, was fast. The sunny side slooowed the boarders alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 What I watched was the event held in the afternoon. One side of the pipe, in the shade, was fast. The sunny side slooowed the boarders alot. I was talking about the finals. Didn't see the qualifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 U.S.A continues piling up the medals. What a change from my youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 U.S.A continues piling up the medals. What a change from my youth. No USSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 U.S.A continues piling up the medals. What a change from my youth. Thank George Steinbrenner. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/olympics/th...pVjGXL1k0USMFhP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 U.S.A continues piling up the medals. What a change from my youth. The US's previous record for medals in a Winter Games was 13. They're going to obliterate that this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The US's previous record for medals in a Winter Games was 13. They're going to obliterate that this year. Sorry dude, its 34, from Salt Lake City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Sorry dude, its 34, from Salt Lake City. I could have sworn that I heard Bob Costas say 13. But 34 makes more sense. Still, they should easily surpass that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 No USSR. Exactly. The USSR had what? Like 11 now countries to tap from? Kinda like breaking up the US' states into individual countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thank George Steinbrenner. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/olympics/th...pVjGXL1k0USMFhP Unfortunately that is American business labor now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Exactly. The USSR had what? Like 11 now countries to tap from? Kinda like breaking up the US' states into individual countries. But they are all still there, just broken into different countries. That alone shouldn't have much impact on the US medal count other than in a few team sports like hockey. A bigger factor is new sports that inherently favor rich countries. I doubt any half-pipers in Russia have their own training facility paid for by a sponsor. Then add in PC sports like women's hockey (only 2 competitive teams on the planet), and that is why the US is racking up the medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 But they are all still there, just broken into different countries. That alone shouldn't have much impact on the US medal count other than in a few team sports like hockey. A bigger factor is new sports that inherently favor rich countries. I doubt any half-pipers in Russia have their own training facility paid for by a sponsor. Then add in PC sports like women's hockey (only 2 competitive teams on the planet), and that is why the US is racking up the medals. Good points. That is the thing about the WINTER games. Just look at Julia Mancuso... Even know her daddy spent some time in the joint (pun intended )... Still nice to be bankrolled for these elitist sports. Again, I know hockey is Canada's game... Still takes a ton of dough too. Especially at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Good points. That is the thing about the WINTER games. Just look at Julia Mancuso... Even know her daddy spent some time in the joint (pun intended )... Still nice to be bankrolled for these elitist sports. Again, I know hockey is Canada's game... Still takes a ton of dough too. Especially at first. Here you go.... the real medal count. I love this...take out all the crap sports that require judges (although I don't get a couple on that list. Why would ski jumping need a judge, isn't it just who went the furthest?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Here you go.... the real medal count. I love this...take out all the crap sports that require judges (although I don't get a couple on that list. Why would ski jumping need a judge, isn't it just who went the furthest?) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 EDIT: What about woman's Super G? An Austrian coach was the one who laid the course. In Super G, the skiers CAN'T train on the course, all they do is get a walkthrough run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I love this...take out all the crap sports that require judges (although I don't get a couple on that list. Why would ski jumping need a judge, isn't it just who went the furthest?) I wondered that to, so I looked.... How Ski Jumping is Scored Isn't ski jumping all about distance? Well, yes and no. Ski jumping is measured in distance, but it's not scored in distance. Distances are converted to points by a mathematical formula. Judges award points for technique ... it's where the term "style points" comes from, but "style" is really a misleading term. It's not meant to convey "flash" or "fashion" ... but perfection of technique. There's more at the link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I wondered that to, so I looked.... How Ski Jumping is Scored Isn't ski jumping all about distance? Well, yes and no. Ski jumping is measured in distance, but it's not scored in distance. Distances are converted to points by a mathematical formula. Judges award points for technique ... it's where the term "style points" comes from, but "style" is really a misleading term. It's not meant to convey "flash" or "fashion" ... but perfection of technique. There's more at the link above. And rightly so... Just imagine if it wasn't judged... People would be crashing to get farther... Like sliding in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Here you go.... the real medal count. I love this...take out all the crap sports that require judges (although I don't get a couple on that list. Why would ski jumping need a judge, isn't it just who went the furthest?) So what's the point trying to be made by that article? That there is an American bias when it comes to judged sports? Please. Every country trains for the sport and the rules as they are. It's amazing that Americans can win a Gold in any sport judged by the French, Chinese, Russians, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Isn't ski jumping all about distance? Well, yes and no. Ski jumping is measured in distance, but it's not scored in distance. Distances are converted to points by a mathematical formula. Judges award points for technique ... it's where the term "style points" comes from, but "style" is really a misleading term. It's not meant to convey "flash" or "fashion" ... but perfection of technique. How lame. I am almost positive that it didn't used to be that way. Good technique = longer flight = more distance means so there should be no need to judge. So what's the point trying to be made by that article? I think the point was that 'judged' sports suck in comparison to those where athletes are measured against opponents by objective measures. I happen to agree. I'd rather watch the downhill, bobsled or hockey than half-pipe or figure skating. As for who benefits from bias, I'm sure it varies by sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I think the point was that 'judged' sports suck in comparison to those where athletes are measured against opponents by objective measures. I happen to agree. I'd rather watch the downhill, bobsled or hockey than half-pipe or figure skating. Can you imagine if something like hockey had judges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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