No QB - No Bueno Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Poz isn't the problem. He's merely a passenger. Some hustle, too little flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I just read the article in Buffalo Rumblings about beefing up the run d being the big priority in the offseason. One of the great insights was to move Poz to the outside, where he played at Penn State. Then it dawned on me, perhaps we have the bulk of the LB's needed for a move to the 3-4. A new coaching staff, and perhaps a new philosophy to a 3-4 'D'. Poz on the outside, along with Maybin moved to OLB on the other side. Mitchell as one of the ILB's, and perhaps a big, rugged, block-shedding MLB or ILB signed for the other spot. Our secondary is solid, and this would allow Maybin and Poz to be in positions of strength. The only moves besides that ILB (boy, I miss Fletcher), would be on the defensive line. Roughly, we're talking about 4-5 free agents here (ILB, NT, DE). Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Meh, this scheme blows. I say see what he does next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleaky72 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Schobel is one of the best DEs in the game sorry you don't agree but I think most of the O-linemen he plays against would. Are u serious or is this an attempt at sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleaky72 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 So Schobel isn't as flashy and doesn't get as much "pub"... because he plays on a terrible team with an awful defense. But when you say he is a "stiff"... It shows how little you know about this game. The guy is quietly putting together a solid season (7 Sacks) after being injured for all but the first 5 games of last season. OMG, are u people in Buffalo blind or simply clueless :thumbsup: What? Schobel is simply the most overpaid, overrated defensive end in football. Heck he makes Phil Hansen look like the second coming of Reggie White in comparison. Please dont even get me started on Overrated Erin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz got blown up on all but a couple of plays against the Jests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I constantly see postings calling for upgrades to our defensive line and OLB......and while I agree we need upgrades in these areas, the heart and soul of the defense should be the MLB...and I can't think of a single NFL team that has a worse starting MLB than we do.... sure Poz makes lots of tackles, but how many of these tackles are for gains of less than 5 yards??....we need a tough force that can strip blockers and make plays near the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield.... I would keep Poz, but move him to OLB....and find an NFL caliber MLB to man the middle and lead our defense. P.S....for the record, outside of our secondary, let's give some kudos to Kyle Williams.....a solid consistent force all season and a player to complement rather than replace! So far, he has been a solid third round pick. Oh wait . . . . Nevermind. I am too lazy to read all of the posts in this thread. Judging from past discussions on Poz, I have a feeling I know what people have posted. He certainly has not justified where we took him. I still hold out hope that he can become a run stuffing linebacker. He seems like he works hard. My problem with him is that he runs around blocks, does not fill gaps, and gets beat when it seems that the RB wants it more than he does. He is still young and likeable. Again, I hold out hope for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz isn't the worst middle linebacker in the NFL But he's far from the best either. When I think of what I want from my MLB's I want a guy who's like Sam Huff,Dick Butkus, guys like those. Guys who are feared. And while Poz is a lot of things he's not that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I constantly see postings calling for upgrades to our defensive line and OLB......and while I agree we need upgrades in these areas, the heart and soul of the defense should be the MLB...and I can't think of a single NFL team that has a worse starting MLB than we do.... sure Poz makes lots of tackles, but how many of these tackles are for gains of less than 5 yards??....we need a tough force that can strip blockers and make plays near the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield.... I would keep Poz, but move him to OLB....and find an NFL caliber MLB to man the middle and lead our defense. P.S....for the record, outside of our secondary, let's give some kudos to Kyle Williams.....a solid consistent force all season and a player to complement rather than replace! not hardly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I constantly see postings calling for upgrades to our defensive line and OLB......and while I agree we need upgrades in these areas, the heart and soul of the defense should be the MLB...and I can't think of a single NFL team that has a worse starting MLB than we do.... sure Poz makes lots of tackles, but how many of these tackles are for gains of less than 5 yards??....we need a tough force that can strip blockers and make plays near the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield.... I would keep Poz, but move him to OLB....and find an NFL caliber MLB to man the middle and lead our defense. P.S....for the record, outside of our secondary, let's give some kudos to Kyle Williams.....a solid consistent force all season and a player to complement rather than replace! The same criticism was thrown at London Fletcher, who continues to ply his trade. I have seen a number of plays where Poz makes the tackle downfield. The disconcerting part of it for me, is that he is often making the play after a teammate has missed a tackle or lost containment. That sheds a different light on Poz's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz's problem is that he can't get off blocks. He's an outstanding LB if he doesn't have anyone in his face. As soon as an OL gets a hand on him he's usually taken completely out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I constantly see postings calling for upgrades to our defensive line and OLB......and while I agree we need upgrades in these areas, the heart and soul of the defense should be the MLB...and I can't think of a single NFL team that has a worse starting MLB than we do.... sure Poz makes lots of tackles, but how many of these tackles are for gains of less than 5 yards??....we need a tough force that can strip blockers and make plays near the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield.... I would keep Poz, but move him to OLB....and find an NFL caliber MLB to man the middle and lead our defense. P.S....for the record, outside of our secondary, let's give some kudos to Kyle Williams.....a solid consistent force all season and a player to complement rather than replace! Didn't they move up to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills2683 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz is not a middle linebacker in the tampa 2 defensive scheme we try to run. We need to move him to the outside and draft someone who can run the middle. A guy that comes to mind because I just watched the game yesterday is Alabama's Rolando McClain, he is a big time player and will make an instant impact in both the running and passing defense. Poz is just not fast enough and does not come downhill and fill the holes in the middle. He may be better suited coming from the outside turning the play back in from the outside point of attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I'm not impressed at all. This team needs a realignment, not just the front office, coaching but also of the players. Either get rid of them or find new positions for them and that starts with Poz because he stinks as a MLB. He stinks. The offensive line stinks too. The defensive line is awful. The drafting is awful. The QB is terrible. The LB's are weak and very sub-standard. There's your problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Go watch the games today people....I have seen the Pats linebackers get dragged 3-4 extra yards multiple times today. I guess they are terrible. It happens to ALL LBs when the RB gets a clear hole. Sorry, it happens to every team and every MLB. Poz's numbers are at the top of the league for tackles, FF. On a per game stat level he has done very well. Mark Gaughn of the Buff News says he has had a very good/great season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz should be a SLB. That's my only contribution to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeJuiceSimpson Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Poz's problem is that he can't get off blocks. He's an outstanding LB if he doesn't have anyone in his face. As soon as an OL gets a hand on him he's usually taken completely out of the picture. I am also an outstanding linebacker when no one is blocking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I constantly see postings calling for upgrades to our defensive line and OLB......and while I agree we need upgrades in these areas, the heart and soul of the defense should be the MLB...and I can't think of a single NFL team that has a worse starting MLB than we do.... sure Poz makes lots of tackles, but how many of these tackles are for gains of less than 5 yards??....we need a tough force that can strip blockers and make plays near the line of scrimmage, not 5-10 yards downfield.... I would keep Poz, but move him to OLB....and find an NFL caliber MLB to man the middle and lead our defense. P.S....for the record, outside of our secondary, let's give some kudos to Kyle Williams.....a solid consistent force all season and a player to complement rather than replace! I'm having a flash back of a London Fletcher post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Go watch the games today people....I have seen the Pats linebackers get dragged 3-4 extra yards multiple times today. I guess they are terrible. It happens to ALL LBs when the RB gets a clear hole. Sorry, it happens to every team and every MLB. Poz's numbers are at the top of the league for tackles, FF. On a per game stat level he has done very well. Mark Gaughn of the Buff News says he has had a very good/great season. Maybe thats why the Patriots lost today. I didn't see the Pat's LB's performing that way win they were winning superbowls. If you really think that Poz is one of your better LB's. Just take the time to watch a Bills game. He just another bad player on a bad defense. Poz is not the only issue with the Bills defense but his role is to be the QB of the defense and after 3 years he still plays like a rookie. We need him to be a Cornelius Bennett or Darryl Talley type of leader and playmaker. Can you honestly say Poz is in that class. As far as stats go, before Ellison was injured he was leading the team in tackles.....so much for stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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