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McGee's best games were when he was playing as the nickel corner early in his career. I think he is too small to cover a lot of the top receivers on the outside, and tends to give too much cushion. I would be perfectly happy with him going back to nickel corner with Florence and McKelvin starting on the outside. I think it would probably prolong his career as well. One thing I do miss is him returning kickoffs. I have never seen anybody better than him other than when Dante Hall was in his prime. And if Hall was better, it was not by much-that is for sure.

Tim, You hit the nail on the head man. (too bad you are from Ohio and not Michigan LOL) Seriously, how can you win when you have no talent in the front seven or at WR, TE, QB or OT? It is unbelievable. And seriously, what have Nix and Gailey done in the offseason to upgrade the talent? Not a whole lot. We may see how really bad this team is if we go into the Jax game 0-4 with three very bad losses potentially coming up. Gailey and Nix should be absolutely ashamed with the lack of talent at a majority of our positions.

I watched today's game, and I felt absolutely no hope in the offense. We have no QB and our O line is pretty poor. And lets face it while we have a strong secondary, our front seven is pretty marginal as well especially in the pass rush. There is just no constant crashing of the pocket by our D line. NOONE dominates. And Ms. Posluzny is hurt again (big shocker there). It is amazing that another offseason comes and goes, and we are still lacking dramatically in talented players. We still pretty much suck. I saw absolutely no difference in this team and any of the teams coached by Jauron. And that is sad. What did they see in TE that would make them want to keep him? He plays scared on every down!! This looks like a 2-3 win team. Because most of the teams we play will throw the ball a whole lot better than the Dolphins will. With no pass rush, it could get very ugly.

I totally agree. Our Offensive Tackles are just awful. Bell and Merideth have no strength whatsoever, and Green just can not move laterally. I think it was terribly misguided by our organization (are you listening Buddy Nix) to think we could go into a season with this group of O tackles. Combine this with a very tentative QB and we have an offense that is a disaster. This team will have trouble winning more than 2-3 games with Edwards playing behind this O line. And lets not forget Levitre's brutal holding penalty that nullified a 30 yard pass play. He got bull rushed and had to hold to keep Ms. Trent from getting creamed. I agree that with this O line Fitzie needs to play. The offense was as bad as it has ever looked today. You really have to look at Buddy Nix and wander what he and Chan were thinking going into a season was such bad QB's and OT's. No team that is trying to be decent, not even a contender would go into a season with such horrible players as the ones we have playing at OT and QB. Just a joke.

Our receivers are fine. We need O lineman, linebackers and tight ends.

Why would anybody think that Fitz is on the bubble? He had a very strong game against Cinci. He is an excellent backup, who understands how to run an offense and make plays. I see no way the Brohm beats him out at this point.

If Wang is healthy, is their a chance we cut Cornell Green, and just go with Bell, Merideth, Chambers and Wang? Just watched the Bills-Bengals last nite, and his pass protection was pretty shaky. Thought our second team O line looked strong opening holes for Anderson at end of game. Maybe Hennesey is a keeper as well? Thoughts?

This is a great question. And what makes this so intriguing is that all these guys look like they can play, except for Hardy. But you have to love the guys size. But he just doesn't look like he plays the game with much passion and energy. He makes a nice catch and than dropped two. I like Roosevelt and Jones a lot as well. Jones is very physical and Naaman looks like he has a good feel for getting open. I believe that Nelson has more upside than Johnson. But both guys can play. Nelson has more size though. I think this last preseason game will determine a lot about which receivers make the team, and who doesn't. Regardless, all of these guys can play, and the way Gailey sets things up, I believe we will see a lot of offense this season. On our first TD against Cinci, we had Lee in motion coming from rt. to left moving into the slot. He took two defenders down the field with him leaving Roscoe to cross underneath beating #57 easily for Cinci. Previously, we never had Lee in motion, or anyone for that matter. This years offense is going to be fun.

Revis got his signing bonus already when he signed his original contract. And the Jets are not telling him that he has to play under his original contract. They have made him (based on reports I have heard) a 10 year/$120 million offer. And I am sure that includes a large signing bonus. The guy is your typical athlete who thinks he is better than he really is because his agent and the media say so. The NFL is the greatest team game in the world. The Jets are not going to cave in to his demands. He is not bigger than the team. In the NFL, teams almost never cave. The game is greater than its players. The owners know that. They know that we the fans want our TEAMS to win. And we will always love our TEAMS. They know that the Jets' fans will be rooting like crazy come opening day whether Revis is playing or not. Same thing happened with Peters. The Bills were not going to cave in to his demands. Instead we just traded him. And seriously, do any of you seriously dislike the team more because we got rid of a lazy, seriously overrated lineman who has a penchant for getting injured? Anyone who has watched this great game for any length of time has to agree with me.

What about David Nelson at WR? He looks to be a possible stud in the making. I would keep him over Roosevelt. Don't know what all the fuss about him is. He looks frail, and his punt returning skills look average to me. I would go with Donald Jones as the sixth receiver if we keep that many. See no reason to keep Schouman. He is not an NFL caliber player. NEVER seen anyone get hurt as much as him. Would he even get a look by a good team? Not a chance. See ya Derek.

Did you not watch the same game as everyone else? Chad Jackson came to play last nite my friend. I would be very happy with our top 4 receivers of Evans, Parrish, C. Jackson and David Nelson. Write it down. Steve Johnson did not look like a starting NFL receiver last nite. Hopefully he will develop. But Jackson looks much more polished and physical at this point.

Why would you trade them the QB who is probably the best we have (maybe Brohm will prove me wrong) and gives us the best chance of winning games? The anti Fitzie sentiment is absolutely ridiculous on this board. Who gives us the best chance to win against Miami? Seriously does anyone on this message board think that Edwards gives us a better chance than Fitzie to beat Miami opening day? I rest my case.

The O line was fine on Friday nite. That has become the party line for far too long around here. (terrible O line is the reason for our terrible Quarterbacking) BS. Trent sucked, and has shown no improvement. No QB gets unlimited time to pass in the NFL. The defenses are usually quite good at this level. Any QB only has so much time to throw. Your continuing to apologize and find excuses for his poor play just sounds ridiculous. Watch any other NFL QB. They may not all be great, but they all step up and chuck the ball DOWN the field with authority. (Even Levi Brown did that) Trent plays with no fire, grit and passion, and it has contaminated the entire offense. One more poor performance and he is DONE!!!

+1, I am in agreement on that. Someone has to step up. I seriously think Thursday nite will be Trent's last stand. If he shows nothing more than he has already as far as moving the team and putting points on the board, than let Fitzie and Brohm fight it out. And what the hell, give Brown a chance as well. I know most of you hate Fitzie, and he is far from being very good. But he doesn't play scared and I think actually has the confidence of his teammates that he can make some plays. But I do want to see what Brohm has this week. He can not be worse than what we have already seen, and hopefully can be much better. I think we have seen what Edwards has. And it is pretty putrid in all facets of being a QB. I just don't know what is going to make him all of a sudden catch lightning in a bottle, and become a solid NFL QB. He just does not have "it". The confidence that says, I am a leader of this team and I think that I can make a play at anytime to win the game. He is still scared to step up in the pocket and rifle a 20-25 yard strike down the middle of the field in a place that only his receiver can catch it.

I appreciate you trying to find something positive because you are a Bills fan, and that is cool. I am usually as optimistic as anyone on this message board. However, on the whole we were terrible the other nite, save for the run blocking and the running of Simpson and Bell. Our starting QB looked as lost as he has in the past, and our defense was out of position in pass coverage something awful. (and that includes LB's and DB's) But to say that Reggie Corner is making "uncharachteristic" mistakes is ridiculous. The guy has been terrible since he put on a Bills uniform other than the Broncos game two years ago. He is small, slow, and has lousy hands. He is definitely NOT an NFL caliber player, simple as that. He typifies why we have been so bad for so long. Just not talented enough to be in the NFL. I would put Trent and several others in that category as well.

What game were you watching last nite? Edwards was downright horrible. Defenses know he will not throw the intermediate pass across the middle of the field so they crowd are receivers and play all throws towards the sidelines. And he has no accuracy on the deep ball as exhibited when he overthrew Stevie J by 5 yards. Can you really see Trent leading an offense that can score in the 20's on a regular basis? I just can't see it. As for Fitz, I have always been a big supporter of his. But I will admit he is not a stud in the slightest. But he brings some moxie and savvy to the table at times which Trent just doesn't have. I hope Brohm is the answer. But if not, based on what I have seen from both TE and RF over the past year plus, there is absolutely NO WAY that you can honestly say that Trent should be starting ahead of Fitzie.

The air went out of this team after the holding penalty on Stupar. But not so much the penalty, but because on the next play Trent did not look to throw for the first down. He was content to make the dumpoff to Marshawn-who almost got the first on his own. Trent has no confidence to make plays, does not light a fire under his teammates, and I think the team suffers with him on the field. We just looked very flat out there tonite. Just a very poor effort all around. Until we get some decent QB play, we are not going to win many games. Another bad game by Trent, and I think he gets cut. Fitzie, while not great by any means still can move the team somewhat. I think Brohm needs to be given every chance to be the starter. On a somewhat brighter note, David Nelson looks like a diamond in the rough. He looks and plays like an NFL player. He could be our number two guy very soon, or at least in the regular rotation. And at RB we are LOADED with Freddie or without. But it all comes down to QB play. And right now we don't have it. And the pick was Trent's fault all the way. Throwing late to the outside when the corner has inside position, and is already breaking on the route is all on the QB. No way Lee is going to catch that ball.

So why do you have to put the color into it Tgreg? Why does it matter what color the owner is? You are forgetting that Revis is one of 53 players on a team. Football is a team game. It is about winning for your TEAM and your FANS. It is a game. The owners make the rules. I own a business. Do you think I am going to let my employees make the rules when I take all the risk? Not on your life. Revis is blessed with a lot of ability, but he is replaceable like every other player save 3 QB's by the name of P. Manning, Brady and Brees. Go back and watch the AFC Championship game again. Revis was LIT UP in the second half. And the owners are exploiting these young men by offering them a 10 year $120 million contract? Please. Because Revis could get seriously injured at any moment? So what. He knows the risks of the game. If he doesn't like it, he can go drive a UPS truck for a living. Noone is making him play. The owners have developed the greatest game ever invented. These players should feel fortunate that they get to play it. And get paid quite well. I hope Revis never gets his money, because the guy is acting like a tool. If Woody Johnson has any balls, he will give Revis a deadline and start taking money off of the table for every day that he does not sign. The NFL has been great for a lot longer than Darel Revis has been around.

You are missing the OP's main point. That regardless of how marginal our OT's are, Gailey will gameplan around this, and still will make this offense play to its strong points and be reasonably successful. Dick Jauron and his offensive coaches were as bad a coaching staff from an offensive view as the NFL has seen in a long time. They took good players and made them marginal, and took average players and made them poor. Gailey is a winner and understands how an offense works, and what needs to be done to succeed in the NFL with the talent that he is given. And BTW, where does everyone get the idea that Cornell Green is that bad. The guy has been in the NFL for what close to a dozen years? You do NOT last that long if you suck. I think he will be a reasonably decent acquisition for this year's team.

Dude, This is a chat room dude. People say all sorts of things on here. She posted decently. But nothing to get all emotional about. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think a little bit of conflict is always good. If she didn't like it here, so be it. There are thousands of us who will still communicate on here. So to care even the slightest as to who is posting is putting WAY to much attention in your life to this board. It is about the TEAM, not who is posting my friend. Leave it at that. Remember this is not church. Civility and the internet do not always go hand in hand.

If that is true, than CJ Spiller will never where a Bills uniform-mark my words.

Why is that brainless? It was brainless drafting a player at a position that we are as deep at as any team in the NFL. We needed OLine help and we still do. I would feel very comfortable right now if we had a half decent Left tackle. Oak whatever your name is, keep bitching to me about how brainless my idea is if Spiller is not signed two weeks from now.

I think the ironic thing about the Spiller holdout is that after going to Bills training camp last Saturday, I came away with the impression that drafting Spiller was a BIG MISTAKE. The reason being is that we are LOADED at RB already. Have any of you watched Jacquie Bell practice? To me, he looks like a stud in the making. Marshawn looks powerful and motivated, and Freddie is already a stud back. Throw in McIntyre as a fullback/blocker/H-back, and Simpson as a scatback/kick returner and we are more than set at RB. I honestly think the Bills believe that as well after a week of training camp. Our secondary and RB corp are top notch. So my thinking is that the Bills are not wowing Spiller's agent with a tremendous deal. (Sure it is between 8 and 10, but probably nowhere close to #8"s deal. If Spiller is not signed by the beginning of next week, what about the possibility of trading his rights to someone who has a very good OT prospect they are willing to part with. A team in need of an electric RB. We are in desperate need of OT's. Looking at this team right now, it sure looks like we should have taken the top OT on the board when we were drafting at #9. Anthony Davis while maybe not an automatic sure thing would have solved a much pressing need (if we could have signed him). Buddy Nix is a toughguy. I think he is a pragmatist as well. (can't wait to hear what he says about Spiller if not signed this week) Would any of you be shocked if we tried to trade Spiller's rights if he is not signed shortly? Just some thoughts from a different bent on the subject.

MClem, I was at Saturday's practice at St. John Fisher. (and if anyone cares, I was the only one there wearing a Paup Jersey-funny thing about that is that the young fans have no idea who he even was) I tried to watch the QB's as best I could. But I will say that the whole thing is very spread out and it is hard to actually watch a lot of what is going on. That being said, NONE of our QB's is better than average out there. They all can throw the football decently, but none of them has anything special about them-plain and simple. The biggest worry we have is whether our OT's can play a lick. I think that Cornell Green will be fine at right tackle. But watching Meredith, Bell, and Wang at LT makes me scared. Meredith and Bell are quite frankly not very powerful men. And Wang is a rookie who looks physical, but is a step slow. But getting back to your original post, right now there is noone on the roster who will beat Trent out as the starting QB. But that could change once the preseason starts.

What makes you or anyone think that Maybin is going to be starting? He hasn't shown anything whatsoever yet. If Battan, Ellis, Torbor, Kelsay, Schobel, or even Coleman play better, than Maybin is on the bench or maybe even gets cut. (That would be funny and pathetic at the same time) Remember Gailey said that the best players will play. I am going to believe that until I see otherwise.