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Exactly. Either Tuel has consistently been the better QB or he hasn't. If he has the coaching staff should forgive the egg he laid and chalk it up to it being his first taste of a real NFL game, in prime time, on the road against a tough D. If he hasn't then why wasn't Lewis the #2 for the first 5 games?

I think people are expecting too much if they think Gilmore, Byrd and Brooks are going to come in and immediately be in midseason form. Yeah, if Gilmore hadn't gotten hurt I'd have faith he could slow/shut down Green. Having not taken a live snap in months I have my doubts how effective he and Byrd will be right out of the gate. This D should be very good once everybody gets up to speed, but the defensive backfield is going to take a few weeks. The one positive is that the Bengals are just an average team stopping the rush so perhaps the Bills O can sustain some drives and not be a total waste.

He can spend up to it though...

Pat White isn't being brought in to start any games. If the Bills thought he was a better option than Tuel one would assume they would have brought him in after the Skins cut him. That being said, it doesn't mean he'll never start. If Tuel gets hurt then, obviously, he'll step in. Or if Tuel is grossly incompetent then I'd imagine White might get his chance depending on how quickly he can pick up the offense. If I had to guess I'd say that maybe he gets a single start before EJ comes back but I wouldn't put money on it.

You don't have to carry all those QBs into the regular season - but there is no need to cut him before the pre-season is done. So you're third and fourth stringers aren't going to get as many snaps, big deal. And to top it off they relied on a guy with a history of injury issues who was 1 concussion away from his career being threatened. Not smart, no matter how some fans want to spin it.

You're disappointed that a guy who is going to miss 4-6 weeks didn't go back into the game he got injured in? "Voice of Unrealistic Expectations" is more like it.

I'm not sure what people expect Kiko to do. He went to tackle Hoyer before Hoyer slid. Hoyer starts to slide way too late and in the process lowers his head to the level that Kiko's head was already at.

Its hilarious all the homers defending powell in this thread.

For all you guys complementing Powell's average - his NET avg (which is the important stat) is 35.2. That's good for 32nd in the league. He's had 35 punts and only 5 fair catches. He's had more punts returned than all but one punter and leads the league in touchbacks. His average per return is good for 4th worst in the league. All that and the stat everybody is complementing him on - average - is good for only 15th in the league. To be fair he has more punts than anybody in the league but even accounting for that his numbers are horrible. Compare that to someone like Lanning (Cleveland's punter) who averages 2 yards less per kick but has a net that is 4 yards better, has over twice as many fair catches and just 2 touchbacks. He also allows 6 yards less per return. It's called HANG TIME. Kicking it long and low and allowing returns over and over again might look good on your avg but it kills a team.

Dude had to get a high paying job to support all those kids!

I can't wait to see a healthy D with Mario, Dareus, K. Williams, Kiko, Byrd and Gilmore all lined up. It'll make my eyes water with joy to have a player on all three levels that have to be accounted for on every play.

The ST sucked last night and definitely contributed to the loss. However, too much blame is being placed on them and Tuel. The bottom line, like it or not, is that the Bills had a 7 point lead after Manuel was knocked out and after the ST mistakes. The D proceeded to allow the mighty Cleveland O to march down the field and score a TD, FG, & FG. If they shut the Browns offense down the Bills win the game. It seems when the Bills most need a stop the D comes up small. In all three losses the team either had a lead or was tied in the 4th quarter and the D allowed the opposing team to move down the field for the winning points. Even in the Carolina win the D allowed the Panthers to march down field to put up 3 more points to pad their lead (and run 5:30 off the clock in the process.) My point isn't that the D "lost" the game for the Bills but that they're being given a free ride. The ST, defense, and offense all contributed heavily to the loss. To try and blame a single unit - or player - is ridiculous.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a better run stuffing play by a DT than the spin move to textbook tackle. Talk abiut light feet for such a huge guy. Hes also excelled this year at holding the point of attack and coming off his block to make a stop. Hes been outstanding.

True, but you owe it to the guys on the team and the fans to try and put the best product out there. Carrying two QBs one of which is a rookie FA isn't a good idea.

They had a capable backup the Bills didn't. Full strength maybe the Bills are better but we'll never know.

The Browns are not a good team. They're better than the Bills but that doesn't make them good.

He's going to choose a spot where he might end up winning a starting role. It's not going to happen with the Bills. If he's going to go to a place with an entrenched starter I'd imagine he'd pick a winning club. We'll see how this plays out but I seriously doubt the Bills land Freeman.

A punt return for a TD. A defensive TD. #1 WR out of game. #1 QB out of game. #1 RB limited carries due to injury. Bills' fans blame the OC for the loss. Interesting.

Freeman is going to want a multi year deal which I doubt the Bills would offer him and I doubt he'd want to come be EJ's backup. As much as the Bills might want Freeman for this year I doubt we're an attractive landing spot for him.

Those 3 points the D just allowed are huge. 3rd and 18 converted, sigh.

Four man rush and press man on the outside. A Safety had to have read that wrong. No reason there shouldn't be someone over the top there.

Just step out of bounds, why take that hit!?

The most success they've had is when they came out throwing on 1st down instead of the conservative run, run, pass. They need to open it up a little bit. Nothing dramatic, keep the reads and throws safe but you can't become as predictable as they've become.

EJ hasn't looked as bad as you guys are making it out. He was solid in the 1st quarter...and less than solid in the 2nd. He's inconsistent, imagine that. His footwork is bad when pressured. So far he's avoided the big turnover and if it wasn't for the crap special teams the Bills have a lead at halftime. That being said I have no faith that this O can do anything in the 2nd half. Granted, I had no faith coming into the game either.