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La Cantfora...still amazed there is pro football.

Great then come participate in a thread that now has 10 pages. The community obviously thinks this is worth discussing...again. And apparently much to your chagrin. Just quit your whining....Sheesh.

It merit's discussion. The topic is very clearly denoted. Don't want to discuss? Don't open this thread. To say the guy was a bad seed here and that's why the Bills traded him - is overly simplistic. It puts the entire onus on the player per behavior. What about the organizational dysfunction that contributed to his lack of production and eventual trade? Hell, what about the state of the team? The Lynch trade was symptomatic of a bigger issue. I'm interested in what folks think about the complete picture. Maybe we can constructively look at what can make this organization and team better going forward by looking at the mistakes of the past. The truth hurts sometimes. But doesn't mean we shouldn't examine what went wrong for a player I believe who has easily been in the top 5 maybe even 3 of RBs in the last 3 years. He was incredible in college (hence the Bills drafting him) and now incredible in Seattle (their FO wanting him). He didn't do so great here. He certainly shares the blame for off the field shenanigans. But so does this organization...on and off the field. I'm glad Littman is gone. Maybe that's the start of a new era... C

I think the quote was "we wanted a jitterbug..." I love CJ and Fred as people. But be careful what you wish for...

Yet when the alarm was raised here, how many on this board and elsewhere - in spite of the terrible track record of the front office - said, "shut up - they scout. They know what they're doing..." Crazy, how many people went along with the insanity. Blind loyalty is just - well - blind. Now that the collective fear of the Bills moving has faded, maybe we'll hold this organization more accountable in their personnel and strategic decisions. C

This to me is the central issue. What we lacked was someone or a front office team that knew how to handle the situation of Marshawn's discontent. The problem is culture. Look at Carroll's and Belichick's institutional/team culture. The Bills sucked at this. Hopefully we turn the corner now. I'm frustrated that the FO didn't manage the situation well. But I'm even more angry that they didn't get above market value for him. Especially given how often the Seattle GM was calling the Bills for a trade. This all spoke to out of touch GM and an administration that was content to keep the status quo going in spite of the lack of success. Sure,we changed coaching staff, but the lunatics still ran the asylum. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/13/pete-carroll-badly-wanted-to-pry-his-lynch-pin-from-buffalo-bills C

For a box of tape? The dude single handed put the Seahawks on his back today. Beast mode indeed...

he just cancelled that interview. He's gonna wait & see what happens w Kubiak. Per Schefter: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/556185458297032705

Follow my handle @musiccharles at former Titans players like Frank Wycheck and Blaine Bishop are worked up about Adam Schefter's Music City Miracle piece. Discussing right now. http://bit.ly/1IyxXNn

Bears should hire Fox. But what does the Fox say? If they hire Marrone over Fox, the Bears deserve to suffer...It's a no brainer. If Fox was available when we were searching, he would have gone to the top of my list. My only concern would have been is health.

The only down side is David Lee may stay as Jets QB coach...

I wish Chan the very best. Good man. Just not HC material IMHO. But I hope our new look Bills crush them Jets ;-)

Good post, John. I wish Schwartz well. He wants a HC gig and it's hard to do that in Ryan's shadow.

Schwartz wants a head coaching gig. Hard to do that when even if he is the DC - the credit will be to Ryan's defense.

I expect Fox will end up in ATL. He still has strong ties in NC. I also expect the Jets and Bears will make a run at him. He's exactly what the Bears need. C

Manning is a smart guy. He's playing hurt. I bet it's the neck thing. He was playing like someone who didn't want to aggravate something that could have a long lasting effect. He has everything. He should walk away relatively healthy and get into coaching. Selfishly, it would be amazing if he signed with the Bills, but for his sake - i hope he doesn't. C

You know perspective. We hated Rex and everything he stood for too when he was coaching against us. On and off the field. Now, I am not sure what to think. I think he's the best coach we'll have since Wade Phillips for sure. I just hope we don't become the bottom of the barrel in terms of class as an organization. I hope The Pegulas can keep him in line off the field. This was obviously a move to keep us relevant and make life miserable for Tommy Boy twice a season. On the whole, you can't argue we got the best coach available. C

Does anyone have thoughts on Taylor Heinicke (sp?) from Old Dominion? He seems to have all the intangibles. His competition has been suspect, but man I love the way he plays. http://hamptonroads.com/2014/12/odus-taylor-heinicke-signs-famed-nfl-agent I know he's with Steinberg - but I met Chris Cabott a couple of times. Nice guy.

Recovery is hard. I hope he stays on the wagon. DC is a drinking town. For sure.

Per Fred Jackson. http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/16814/fred-jackson-says-nate-hackett-couldnt-do-what-he-wanted-to Discuss.

I love Fred Jackson.

I don't know how LaCantfora (as in "can't get anything right") has a job...

Schwartz is a tool and wears his emotions on his sleeves. He considers himself a "rock n roll" rebel type guy. But the word on the street here in Nashville was that Jeff Fisher was gonna let him go before he got his HC job in Detroit. All worked out for Schwartz. He's a good DC. But needs a strong coach or FO type to keep him in line. C

The article I read said he would have "considered a job" - not clear if that meant GM. Who knows. Still, I'm glad he isn't coming. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12111665/washington-redskins-enhance-aj-smith-role