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Two points: 1) I believe a lot of it is going to depend on how physically fit he's keeping himself. He's 32, right? 33? Not too many people just step right into the groove at that age. Anyone who has watched him over the past nine (?) seasons has to feel for the guy. Nine painful years with this franchise. One winning season. He ought to get a break of some sort. But last I checked, Gailey wasn't here when Schobel was drafted, and as such doesn't have any ties or commitment to this guy. If Schobel comes into camp slow and out of shape, he's just another player that hasn't proved himself in camp. I don't think there are going to be any "gimme" spots on this roster. New coach, new job. 2) I hope Nic Harris makes the team. I don't know why. I guess it was the highlight film I watched when he was drafted. That kid is a headhunter.

There's something nominally creepy about focusing on booze this early on a Sunday morning...but...kudos to you and your wife on the Rodney Strong Pinot. Good choice, and good price point. Might try to find a bottle of that this week.

Man, I just can't get there. I've never been a hard-liquor guy. Give me a choice between a great Scotch and a '97 Amarone della Valpolicella or an '04 Schuster Pinot....sorry, the Scotch never gets out of the gate. To each his own. Cheers!

Not to temper your effusiveness, but remember, this is the off-season. The quality of the posts are often more cerebral and eclectic. And then the season starts, the Bills go 1-5, and the Haters come out and crap all over the Wall, and try to sell you cyanide tablets. Don't buy those. They go terribly with Malbec.

Reminds me of a quote related to the game of golf: "Easy to learn, impossible to master". Learning which wines I enjoy (and do NOT enjoy) will occupy the rest of my life. What a blessed future lies before me. "That Thing You Do" - The Wonders

As I'd stated in a thread last week, I think Roscoe showed some chops for having apologized for the Cleveland debacle. Leaving that nightmare in the past, look at the PR stats. The odds are good that everytime this guy gets his hands on the ball, the Bills are looking at 10 yards. Or more. Okay, brain surgeons, here's the next question...which OTHER player on the team gives you that kind of production when he touches the ball? Evans? Lynch? Nelson? Let's man-up and face facts - ten yards per play is a BIG DEAL for this team. I'd keep him just for punt returns. If he adds a few catches per game in the slot, I'm pointing at the scoreboard and spilling my Labatts on the guy in front of me. What is the basis for the Roscoe hate? The Cleveland game? He's apologized. Get over it. Go Roscoe. "Sneaking Sally Through The Alley" - Robert Palmer

I've made a sea change from beer to wine. My beer of choice up here on the lake was (and, I guess, still is) Molson Canadian. I just don't chow it down the way I used to. I've switched to wine these days, and seem to be on a Malbec kick. It's like getting a good bottle of Bordeaux for about 30%-40% less. Tonight it's a Punto Final Riserva, being served as a I await a wild-caught sockeye salmon filet coming off a charcoal grill. Salmon seasoned with Lawry's Seasoning Salt (yes, I've been to the original Lawry's in Chicago - fuggin' great steaks) and cooked over briquets with a goodly chunk of hickory for smoking. Damn. There's a hole in my glass. Waiter...... "Ocean Breeze" - Pablo Cruise

The thing I try to keep in mind, I guess, is that the kid is 25 years old, or something like that. Would I have acted in a more mature manner at 25? Probably. But no one ever waved $XX million dollars in my face at 25, so I can't tell you whether I'd have sprouted an attitude, or not. At the end of the game, however, it's probably unrealistic to expect this kid to act in a manner that those of us who have reached "maturity" would find acceptable. I wrote in another thread that I thought it would be a good move all 'round if the Bills traded him. I'm guessing it won't happen now, and let's hope for the best from a very good running back.

Classic response. Love it. You're SUCH a Bills fan. I'm with you - "It could always suck worse".

Let's take this a step further than that. What in heaven's name is this board going to do if the Bills actually start putting up more than 17 points per game? Just thinking about it makes me need to lie down for awhile.

No, you see, it's posts like this that get people drinking the Kool Aid, and inspire "hope". And for this, according to the Haters, you should be banned for life, keel-hauled, left to die on a stake, and your corpse hung in a prominent place. Bastard. "One Toke Over The Line" - Brewer & Shipley

Holy schit. An apology for a drunken post! I suppose I owe a few of those - you know who you are. Seriously, bananathumb, very classy. You've elevated yourself to one of my favorite posters. Until you disagree with me, of course, at which time I'll drop another drunk-post-bomb, and wish I had the temerity to apologize for it.

I think it probably WOULD be in the best interest of both parties to trade him, and my rationale is as follows. Fred Jackson's already calling/texting Lynch to implore him to get his a$$ into camp, because the offense is going to be more than the usual 12-plays-and-a-cloud-of-penalty-flags. Supposing Lynch DOESN'T get his a$$ into camp, his attitude is going to earn him a spot on the bench for the rest of the season. Assuming a worst-case scenario, let's say there's a strike next year. If you're Lynch, you'll be completing your 5th and final year of your contract having played 2 good years, followed by two crap years, and a strike year. Your value in the league is circling the bowl. If you're the Bills, you have a player that came out with a lot of promise, but is now just another back. No one special. What kind of trade value does he have? Zilcho. Makes the most sense for both parties to move him along, take a 3rd if you're lucky, and get back to work.

What limp-wristed nancy-boy school did YOU attend? Where I come from, we'd have been lined up against the wall and shot for some of the #*%$ that passes for grammar on this board.

Actually, I believe this is the best response to the thread. I just didn't need the visual.

I just read Chris Brown's article on Roscoe Parrish's attitude vis-a-vis training camp, and liked the following statement: "I made a bad decision in the Cleveland game, but every guy makes mistakes." There's more, and it's the normal optimistic fluff that we all read during training camp, but - not that he reads the crap on this board - I wanted to publicly commend him on the above statement. It's called "humility", and it's a sign of maturation. I, for one, am glad that Roscoe's still on the team. I hope and pray that the coaching staff keeps him returning punts as long as he can, but don't mind putting him into the slot. A happy Roscoe is a productive Roscoe. Give him 2-3 reception attempts a game - what he makes of those attempts are his business, and they determine his future. In any case, Roscoe, thanks for "manning up". There are a few other Bills players that owe the fan base the same candor, and I'm rooting for you come September. "We Got By" - Al Jarreau

This is the key point for the entire 2010/2011 season. Bingo. Very well done for bringing this up. The 2009/2010 season was horrific in terms of injuries, but it was childs play compared to 2007/2008. What the hell is going on at One Bills Drive?!? One season (2007) was terrible in terms of injuries, and possilbly a fluke. But when it was followed up with the same situation thanks to the largely intact coaching staff during the 2009 season...okay, that's starting to look like a pattern. A bad one. "The Hitler Rap" - Mel Brooks

Thanks for making my point. Screaming about what the Bills shoulda/woulda/coulda done in the draft is....ah....Jesus.....just so goddamn pointless. Bulaga. Smith. Jones. Harry Balls. News flash. The Bills drafted what the Bills drafted. I personally think it was not a BAD draft. Was it the best? Won't know for two or three years. Was it a good draft? Won't know for two or three years. My personal inclination is to look at the glass half-full. Many people on this board prefer to look at the glass as...well, shattered on the floor at their feet from their latest tantrum. If that's the mindset...frankly, I can't be bothered. If I want pain and suffering and whining, I have a job, and have co-workers that can provide that level of entertainment for 10 hours a day. "Hideaway" - Leon Russell

"Witless Assbrain". You know, I have a reasonable lexicon, but I've never heard that one. Can I use that? Because that was goddamn funny. "Rough Boys" - Pete Townsend

A reasonable response. My return volley is even simpler. Your solution would be.................................(you can fill in the blank when you're ready)............................................................ Bitching's easy. Solving problems...ugh, that part sucks. "My Baby's Got a Secret" - Madonna

Jesus. Randy, you only have a finite number of heartbeats in this life. You've lost about 4 since you started reading this response. Trust me. No snarky reply escapes that reality. Now it's 9 heartbeats. Maybe more. If watching the Bills is such a goddamn painful enterprise for you, do us both a favor... Go...the F...away. "Lay Around the Shanty" - Jonathan Edwards

Understand there IS a god when it comes to sports writers having to eat crow-the-size-of-a-buzzard. I remember when John Feinstein had to suck up to Jim Boeheim after the 2003 NCAA Championship. Really sucks when those feathers go down the wrong way. Don't sweat Clayton's comments about the Bills. He MIGHT be able to find Buffalo on a map. That's about it. Focus on training camp.

We drafted Ed Wang. He's going to be the next LT of the Buffalo Bills. He'll do better than Gaither, another fifth-rounder for whom the Bills will not trade. Get over it. Move on. Enjoy and root for the home team. Enough. "Uncle Remus" - Frank Zappa

That's a heck of a strong statement to be making on 20 May 2010. You're basing this on...the training camp performance? The roster line up following three rounds of cuts? I just see this as overboard pessimism with no facts to back it up.