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The responses in this thread are disappointing. There is no need to insult people who question whether Tre White deserves to be the highest paid corner in the league. We all love him, but he is primarily a zone corner and as such has different responsibilities than someone like Gilmore. Chris Simms, who is a big Bills fan, this morning said he does not believe Tre is a top five corner and that he is not in the same category as top cover corners who are asked to shadow the other team's best receiver all over the field. He literally mocked those who consider Tre on the same level as Gilmore or Humphrey. I'm not saying Simms is right, but the OP raises a legitimate question and it's unfortunate that the response here is just to shout him down.

That's a little hard to believe. If I'm Miami, I just stay put and don't panic.

Like Tre’Davious White before him, Chaisson was awarded jersey number 18 at LSU, hence he is definitely a high character guy as well. I could see this, as much as we need offensive help.

I don’t remember what the situation would have been if it had not been called, but I think the Bills would have had better options than that. Correct me if I’m wrong...

Well, Josh threw two balls directly to Texan defenders that both should have been intercepted and retuned for touchdowns. I can’t think of any robberies by the men in stripes.

Almost perfect analysis. My only quarrel is with the bolded, which is not wrong, just irrelevant. As soon as the illegal forward pass hit the turf in the Texan's end zone, it was a dead ball and a safety. The Bills did not have to recover it to make it so. I'm not sure if it matters whether the ball actually landed in the end zone or whether it's a safety simply because the illegal pass was thrown from the end zone, but this one was both thrown from and landed in the end zone.

Perfect. I might add another WR or two, as well. Punter?

I looked it up too and you are correct. It should have been ruled a Bills safety, assuming he tossed it forward to the ref, which I think is what happened. If he tossed it sideways or backward, it's a fumble and a live ball. (Are we sure he tossed it forward?)

No. They are not allowed to make such a judgment call on a kickoff return. That might be true on a quarterback scramble or a defensive back who's just intercepted a pass, but there is a specific rule that governs how the return man must "give himself up" on a kickoff into the endzone and there is no room for the referee to make such a judgment call.

I don't think that's correct, but assuming it is, what should have been the result? Safety?

You keep repeating this, but are you aware that there is an actual rule regarding how a kickoff return man may "give himself up"? If so, will you admit that that rule was not followed?

This is a great twitter thread from Monahan. It really should end all discussion. The Bills were literally robbed of seven (or eight) points.

I hadn’t thought of it that way, but in my mind it’s really a distinction without a difference.

I think this is true, but it still doesn’t excuse reversing an initial call on the field that was correct.

I'm not sure which response you're referring to, but i assume you are acknowledging that the NFL rulebook does not expressly adopt this rule of reason concept that applies to US Antitrust law. You're just saying it should. Unless I'm missing something...

Show me where the “rule of reason” is incorporated into the NFL rulebook as a whole or in this particular rule. Does the “rule of reason” also apply to helmet to helmet tackles or technically illegal crackback blocks, as well? if there is a rule of reason that applies generally, then every rule is subject to the referee’s opinion on any given play, right? I guess this would also apply to play clock violations too, because who cares about a second or two during an NFL game, right?

It’s not that Knox wasn’t capable; it’s that he made zero effort to block a guy who had a straight line to his QB. A coordinator is not responsible for a guy who flat out failed to perform a simple task. The play was set up perfectly, and if Smith is in there, Houston might have committed more guys to stopping the run since that’s a dead giveaway.

Gimme a break. A rookie in his first preseason game could have made that block and THREE NFL STARTERS whiffed on it. It was a GREAT play design and if ONE of those starters had done his job, we would have won the playoff game. Allen probably scores if someone blocks Cunningham.

I didn’t even notice Morse. That’s three guys who completely failed football 101 at the most crucial time, and almost got our QB killed as well. Inexcusable.

Wow, what the f**k is Knox doing? There was no one else for him to block other than Cunningham and he just ignored him. Could probably say the same thing about Ford, for that matter.

Obviously despicable behavior by the "fans", but Ford needs to just ignore this crap, stay off social media and work on becoming a better football player, FFS.

As pissed off as I was that we didn’t take Metcalf when he was available in round 2, I’d feel even worse if I had spent a late first round pick on a WR and it turned out to be N’Keal Harry.

Not to mention Mecole Hardman and Terry McLaurin...

That’s how you close out a game, McDermott.

But the three cone drill...