Albany,n.y.

I can't buy that. I never saw Marrone as jealous of his players. I saw him as a selfish guy who quickly realized EJ wasn't the answer & played Orton because he knew EJ was going to make him look bad & he wanted to look as good as possible, especially since he knew he could bail. As soon as Orton retired Marrone had no intention of sticking around & going down with EJ as his QB. If Marrone had Josh, he would have had a long career as Bills coach, and seeing him in practice every day would have never bailed.

Josh was not awful in his 1st 6 games. I remember the Bills dominating Minnesota as double-digit underdogs in Josh's 2nd career start. I also saw a lot from his 1st season behind no O-line & making a guy like Robert Foster look like a real NFL WR. As a rookie, I saw glimpses of greatness in rookie Josh that EJ Manuel never showed. Also Josh started 11 games including one he got hurt that Peterman blew, and it was almost miraculous that he willed a bad team to 5 wins in the the 10 games he started & finished. Here's another thing. In 2019 I was so confident in Josh I bet Bills futures before the season and won all my futures bets including the Bills making the playoffs. (You can look it up in the archives). Meanwhile when EJ announced that he was setting up stock in himself, I said I wish I had the money to short his stock after seeing him play. Maybe EJ looked better on paper, but on the field as rookies, Josh towered over EJ.

I'll never understand the love for Chan. The guy was a horrible head coach. He lost me forever when he punted from the opponent's 34 yard line.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/atlanta-falcons/news/atlanta-falcons-assistant-gm-passing-father-chargers-aj-smith/0fc26bbc75c1d162265c3ec6 I met him once at the gate at St. Francis High when his son Kyle (now assistant GM in Atlanta) was playing HS football. He showed me his AFC Championship ring. The reason I was at the gate was I used to go to all the Bills home games and my friend whose house I'd stay at was a teacher at St. Francis and enlisted me to work the gate with him at some of the Red Raiders home games. After AJ left to be GM in San Diego my friend had a minor heart attack and AJ heard about it & sent him a get well card from SD. Classy guy.

Now we know why Bill Belichick didn't get another coaching job.

That's his real 1st name, but he hated losing so much he dropped the L.

That's just a formality, they don't go into season 5 on their 5th year option. Only when they've missed significant time like Lamar Jackson is a QB left hanging by an organization that wants him.

Where do you think the expression "Speed Kills" came from? 😎

Actually, for QBs it's rarely used. If the player is a franchise QB, he gets extended after year 3, like Josh and many others. Only the QBs who have an injury history get the 5th year option. Meanwhile, the QB busts get jettisoned. Look at 2021: 4 QBs in the top 15 got dumped before the team even had to consider the 5th year option.

The player is either good enough to extend or not worth 1 more year with the 5th year option. What did the Bills really accomplish by using the 5th year option on Edmunds & then letting him walk? The goal is to get a guy who will earn a 2nd contract, not just 1 more year before he leaves because the team had to make a decision after his 3rd season.

That's ridiculous. The only time Beane used a high pick on a WR was trading a #1 for Diggs. Meanwhile, most of Beane's WR picks have outplayed their draft position. Just because he signed some #3s & #4s, to back up his top WRs, who didn't do much doesn't mean much when compared with his draft picks or picks used for trade.

JP Losman was the result of Donahoe not having the guts to offer enough to get into the top 10 and draft the QB he really wanted, Ben Roethlisberger. If Donahoe had offered enough to move up from 13, as Beane did later to move from 12 to 7, Bills history would be drastically different. So, by including JP Losman, you are supporting trading up. NOT trading up earlier in the draft was the problem, not the panic move for Losman when Donahoe lost out on Roethlisberger.

How could you not include JP Losman & EJ Manuel among the generational QBs? 😁

The Giants were thinking of signing OJ, but that dream ended before they could write the contract.

1st HOF acceptance speech in a tinfoil hat. He might even want a tinfoil jacket.

The only March Madness for me is that I can't watch the TV programs that it preempts on CBS. I don't do brackets because I know nothing about college basketball. I have no rooting interest since I have no affiliation with any of the teams that are playing. The only time a team from Albany or a city I've lived in in the past is in the tournament, it's one of the bottom seeds & exits quickly.

Similar value when Beane traded Sammy Watkins as a 1 year rental by the Rams. He used that pick as part of the trade up for Josh Allen.

Austin Proehl's brother is one of the contestants on American Idol. I think the real source is Simon Cowell.

If Rex Ryan was the coach the Bills would have drafted Deshaun Watson instead of trading the pick to KC in 2017. Then there would have been the double scandal of massage therapists having Watson exposing himself & rubbing against them while Ryan fondled their feet.

Most of the players listed above were at the end of their careers. I looked at it more as what players went on to bigger & better things after they left. Top 2 are Wyatt Teller & Jason Peters, with Marshawn Lynch not far behind. Guys retire or get let go or leave in free agency, all as part of the business. But my top 3 were given away for pennies on the dollar & flourished in their new locations.

Years ago, there was the Olof Paril hoax that had a story of an offensive line prospect that the Bills were interested in. I think it originated out of Rochester. At one point there was word that one of the other NFL teams actually believed it and wanted more information on him before the draft. Eventually it was revealed that Olof Paril was an anagram for April Fool.

The same RT got ejected on that play for spitting on the opponent.

NFL GMs may not be that good at recognizing a QB bust coming out of college, but they are good at recognizing a QB bust at the NFL level. That's why it's virtually impossible to take a busted 1st or 2nd round and get anything good out of him. If the NFL GMs hadn't considered Field a bust the Bears would have gotten a lot more when they traded him than they did (a 2025 6th that can become a 4th). The rest of the league didn't consider him starting material & the team that traded for him gave up virtually nothing for a backup with starters experience on the last year of his rookie contract.

He may end up being the Covid QB like Jake Fromm was in 2020. Pay him his guaranteed money & keep him away from the rest of the team "just in case". 😄 How did they mismanage him other than putting him out on the field where he could STB? I've heard this before with guys like EJ Manuel & JP Losman too many times. The 3 have one thing in common, not mismanaged, just 1st round busts.

He'd be better playing in warm weather. He's from San Diego & went to Stanford. I guess Beane didn't believe Deion & wanted to show him how wrong he thinks Deion is about kids who grow up in warm weather playing in cold weather cities.