colin

I'd make him OC in one second flat

I said earlier in the season the real issue w the line was out stunt and blitz pick up. They seemed to figure it out for a while, but spags saw a ***** in the armor. It's odd to me that Torrence didn't block anyone and Brown went right. If the protection was shifted left, the only free runner should have been on the right, not the gut. I think Spencer went right. If the most central guy got picked up, I think it's an easy throw and hopefully catch.

he absolutely should not have played, it was so obvious after he got bumped by hamlin. 4 of our 5 starting dbs (maybe all of them if douglas got his head rocked and i didn't know about it) have had concussions or at least nasty looking head on hits, two of them wear the padded helmets.

i know im being a little contrarian here, but i think on d we need to add one real impact guy, and just be cheap and young everywhere else. keep our young guys, have rookies start, ditch von, let groot walk after his extension year, just roll w carter at 1t and whoever else we draft or sign cheap. my view is -- we get the same performance in the playoffs no matter what our d looks like player wise. we had all these guys come in, paid these contracts, signed all those fa linemen, had the all pro safety tandem, had white at corner, had levi wallace (lol), had benford, lost him for elam, etc etc. the results are all identical. same scheme w a few tweaks, same crap all around. i say get one real talent, DE or DT, so we have one play maker to dial something up sometimes, and just roll w who else is there. put the resources into going from a really good OL to a monster OL (upgrade RG, maybe another swing guy to compete with torrence/whoever), add a real outside wr talent (higgins) and just let the rest fight it out to see who can stay (kink vs knox, coleman vs samuel, the backs, who ever). assuming we stay w the same coaches, who i am on record hating, let's not put good money after bad on D. get younger and faster and cheaper and let the chips fall where they may. we can roll w bishop and someone cheap to replace hamlin, or even just hamlin, at safety.

i was high on bishop pre draft, but for a 2nd pick at a non premium position in a d that has historically good play at that position? he sucks so far.

lol, that's so true. allen was their best pick by 10 thousand miles the traded the pick for mahomes for tre white, who got hurt and became terrible after they extended him (mc corch trading mahomes for CB, such a clappy move). they traded for diggs, who was great for a couple years and then got extended and fell off and dug a huge hole in our cap (these extensions aren't great for us, are they?). the pick they traded? JEFFERSON. nice! they traded up for kinkaid, he sucks. traded up for edmunds, he was a decent player but we let him walk and didn't miss him (low value position) drafted groot, he's been good drafted oliver over 2 or 3 much better DTs, he's been good but not consistent, great playoffs this season. traded the worthy pick to kc (another great trade!) for coleman and of course, elam. if we got anyone besides maybe lamar in that allen draft, beane and mcdermot are working in carolina between then and now and got again at some point. anyhow, to address the OP, allen's legacy will be the greatest most exciting player who rescued a trash organization from itself. he's the barry sanders of qbs.

what's butler doing now?

we can keep making the playoffs and losing the same way forever. we might not be able to have such exciting close losses, but until the division gets way better we are good for a home playoff game any year allen is healthy. i think allen leaving is a more present risk than his play falling off hard. i presume they will want to extend him to bring in some talent this offseason, if he plays ball then he's here for a while longer. if there are any breakdowns in that conversation then i think he's out in a couple of years and then mcd will be leading the team to tough close losses to not be mathematically eliminated from they playoffs in october.

the bills are a stupid team. the chiefs are a smart team. we have allen and cook and some ballers here and there, and they play their butts off and when things are new and open and not predictable, we play loose and well enough to beat them over and over in the regular season. in the playoffs, the chiefs study what we have been doing and create plays to defeat what we do, and our coaches are scared and just do what they do with maybe the odd small variation. we see this in the regular season vs other teams, we get off to a slow start and allow early scores and then adjust based on what we saw. most egregiously, our low iq coaching staff keeps trying things that have not worked, or that the d is clearly prepared for (being predictable based on down and distance and formation, tush push, empty sets on high leverage downs) and we LOVE to get away from what is working (see Cook, James). defensive time outs and challenging hopeless plays, but no challenging stuff like the spot on the kinkaid 3rd down when we were up 1, the deep kick and defensive calls in the 13 seconds game, the fake punt w hamlin, the aj klien lead D. look at it this way, if some other team had an absolute top level qb and their head coach was a defensive guy who's ds were always absolutely terrible in playoff losses and they did things like the hamlin fake punt and 13 seconds, would you think their coaching was good?

i reviewed the game log of the game last night. kc had 63 offensive plays, we had 68. that's a very short condensed game. we allowed some weak leak out runs early, but stuffed them really well for the rest of the game in runs. mahomes had the highest epa of this season, and the highest success rate (which means how easy it is to get first downs) of his career. we made the game as easy as possible for mahomes, our d is undermanned, and we sucked. with that said, the offensive coaching decisions were much worse. the tush push was failing but we kept to it. we got into empty late WAY too much. we had a couple great bombs to hollins (can you believe he's our best outside weapon?) and stole a couple first downs with passes to shakir, coop, and coleman. the rest of our production, and the back bone of all of our td scoring drives, was james cook. we averaged 4.6 yards on plays where cook didn't get the ball, and 8.5 on plays where he did. that includes two short TD runs and a couple 3rd down short yardage conversions. with the season on the line, cook doesn't get a touch, and he got 4 total carries in the first half, and 16 touches in the entire game. on the tush push they ruled a no conversion (horrible spot) shakir was in the back field pushing allen. no cook to be a run threat if they wanted to mix it up, and no big guy helping allen get an extra foot or two. on the ill fated 4th and 5 call, it was empty and cook was off the field. just like daboll and dorsey, brady just doesn't have a feel for the game. he runs the same ish, the d knew what to do and dared us to stop it, and when they were overloading and blitzing late to sell out vs the run, we had nothing dialed up to put the ball over them. they never stopped cook, really. he might have broken a few more for big gainers, but im quite certain at the very least he would have converted some of those 3rd and shorts and was giving kc fits all day. you don't have to play great d vs the bills. you just have to wait for the bills to run a predictable empty, or a bunch formation they've run every game for two months, and you just know there are no wrinkles or counters to different pressures and you make allen play at difficulty level 100. we are always outcoached and our roster is poorly constructed.

mahomes had the highest success rate per drop back last night OF HIS CAREER. no one has allowed him easier first downs in any nfl game he has ever played than our d did last night. the sucked balls and they gotta change. beane and mcd have built and coach a putrid awful d. they don't just fold vs good teams, they literally allow good qbs their best and easiest game every single playoffs. mcd farting around, using the tush push over and over including on a 2 point attempt after we could see it wasn't working is nasty work. if we just kick the extra points and run cook we win that game in the face of all the rest of it. two rookie no resume no accomplishment coordinators under mcd is not a way to beat kc.

bad protection call from josh and the c, bad drop by kinkaid, bad decision to have guys like benford and kinkaid risking their physical well being while not being effectively healthy, and most of all horrible coaching to have the one thing that was working, cook, have zero touches in the last drive of the season. we are a stupid team.

protection breakdowns the not being able to recognize the d in front of you vs being predictable on D and just getting eaten all day, that's a scheme and play calling issue. we had plays that were clearly working on D, and kc was clearly adjusting to take things away (tush push anyone?) but we had zero counters for the counters. if we were gonna lose the game on O we shoulda lost doing at least trying to do what was working, which was cook running and catching all over kc. instead it was fades to 0 and some silly orbit route vs an obvious blitz, nothing like a slow to develop play vs immense pressure! ever single time cook went to the edge, and for the season whenever a back wheeled out and josh ran behind him, the d has no chance at all. instead brady has cook with 4 rushes in the entire first half and zero touches on the final 6 play drive. brady choked.

the best four teams at roster building in the nfl right now are: baltimore LA Rams KC Philly. a little behind them are the 49ers they all follow a method of getting absolute elite talent at high impact positions. they all spend big dollars on contracts, are willing to trade, and in order to get this elite talent they are willing to make room in other parts of the roster where they get depth with rookies and cheap free agents. the prioritize 1 QB (nuff said) 2 Line talent (dl and ol), mainly tackle and pass rush 3 corner 4 offensive play maker baltimore is the most talented team in the nfl, they follow the ozzy method. he had a thing done one him back in the day and he looks at Size, weight, speed, and temperament. they are always physical and always a monster to play. when they lose they beat themselves the rams are real sharp shooters on this star culture stuff. they had a 1st overall qb and traded him and picks, and took cap hit and signed a new contract, to get another better 1st over pick qb, and it got them a super bowl. they traded a pick mid season for a live von miller who helped them get their bowl. they took a safety out of retirement (who could still play a bit) because they had injuries at that position and it helped them win a bowl. they signed OBJ who helped them win a super bowl. they always have pass rushers, and they hit on many of those pass rush picks. KC requires no mention, they have pat, jones, and kelce and always add talent and are willing to rotate corners and move guys around and sit guys, whatever it takes. reid his whole career will always trade or draft or sign top flight tackles (not a great value for that guy they have at RT). their line of scrubs on OL outplayed our line in the game where it counted. Philly is a monster OL destination, and they've always looked to get top flight pass rushers and corners on D. they will fill in LB with whoever, but CB and DL is always premium. buffalo has kind of sort of followed this model. obviously allen is a monster and they traded up to draft and sign him. they EVENTUALLY, over the last 2 or 3 years put actual resources into the the OL. torrence is up and down at RG, i think the C was a great value FA signing and is a good player, LG is a jag, and the tackles are elite. we kept throwing picks at RB, and still do, and eventually hit on cook, who i think combined with this line is a top 5 back in the nfl. On D this model breaks. the DL is the heart of the D, seemingly even more so in a mcd system. it's always 4DL, and it's almost always 2lbs. his scheme requires platooning DL (although he broke this tendency in the past couple of playoffs somewhat) so they don't get as many snaps out of their top DL as other teams do (the kid from GA on philly played like 97% of snaps, for exmpale) and you end up with cast offs like phillips and solomon getting snaps vs lamar jackson in a game on the line late drive. he also likes smaller guys, and he's so scheme particular he seems really picky on who can play 3 or 1 tech for him. at LB he has a lot of reads and since there are only 2 of them on like 90% of plays they have to get the gaps perfect and quick. he loves his nickle to be around the LOS and attacking, and he wants his safeties really far back and making more heady reads than most, and he loves zone, even tho he had his zone guys playing man in this playoffs. Mcds insistence on his scheme seems to mean we have to have all of these middle class players who can do all the things he absolutely requires and doesn't leave much room for superior talent who might not possess some of the traits he needs. that's why we had rapp and hamlin with multiple concussions in and out of the lineup as our starters, neither of whom are actually good nfl talents mind you, and had a half punch drunk benford come in and risk cte in this game. it's also why klien had to come in to guarantee his scheme was run just the way he likes it so he could have a graceful loss to kc instead of playing williams. we also seem to have this issue, and it's not necessary due to scheme, on offense. this everyone eats thing just means hollins is the wr on our team w the most snaps outside, and rookie davis has to spell cook when cook is near 9 yards a touch in the afc chip game. it's why we have anderson come in like 1 out of 6 or 8 snaps and have big contract knox, first round kincaid, traded for vet cooper, and almost first round coleman on the pine 50% or more snaps. the above top 4 or 5 teams just don't do that. they have their elites and play them as much as they can, especially in high leverage situations. we played douglas last season who was hurt, aj klien, and other guys who were not ready just like we played benford this season in the final game. this is why i think mcd will always have too much influence on the players acquired, and why his rigid schematic dogma is our downfall. we've been in the hunt for a superbowl several times, including being a favorite for it, and we've had damar hamlin, aj klien, injured cbs, and post retirement bease and brown as starters or large snap count guys, all while not really focusing on getting top top talent at the above mentioned positions. on O we are running a EP offense and we have picks and contracts into tight ends and we don't freaking throw to them, we don't set up plays to them out of play action because we go heavy jumbo for our power runs because we just don't want to or can't do that w the TEs on the field. we've never put resources into a true outside guy to stress the D (diggs was more of a all over the place joker type), and we platoon our backs when we CLEARLY have the best non qb player on the field. we don't have an identity and we've gotten away with it because of allen's talent, and that's why we keep failing the same way over and over and over and over again. this team needs to add a couple actual stars, and scheme up ways to fill in the gaps with the rookies and free agents we can gather up easily, like all the other teams do. and we need to actually play them and use them. small and injured milano and bernard and number 7 can't be our only every down guys and our best talents when they are small and at non premium positions.

I've looked at it too many times, the throw to kinkaid was the correct play, particularly after he rolled to his right (might have been the wrong place to roll to, but pressure was up the gut and torrence let two guys through as part of his awful awful night. it was a shocking miracle that he was able to get the ball in the vicinity of the TE at all, let alone hit his arms. kinkaid cannot make a contested catch at all, he dropped one earlier off of his outstretched hands because a db was touching him. he's very physically weak at the point of the catch, which is more or less a key skill of tight ends in the nfl.

that's a good point, and he didn't look so great late vs baltimore. i think he was banged up at some point in that game and was trying to soldier through. i hope he's ok.

Worthy fought through bishop for a catch (BS call, but he did as much physically as he could). Kincaid can get off or around any physical play at all. Could not stretch to get the first, and small contact bad him dropping a ball earlier. He's really just a big not fast wr

the chargers have a good d and a solid coach. they lost vs the texans because their qb fell apart hard. all is the best qb in the nfl, the best of all time according to his playoff numbers. he's got a high floor. mcd has a low ceiling, he can't get over any humps. allen on a better franchise is a chip machine.

pegula has shown slightly less than great acumen wrt selecting and removing front office people in professional sports teams. it would take something extreme and out of character to light a fire under him. the above is an example of one such possible thing. it isn't to say it's likely, or even remotely possible. allen on the rams, chargers, or sanfran absolutely walks to the super bowl repeatedly and wins a few. i really do fear that's where he will end up.

im not demanding it, i'm saying he should and i know that he won't

benford took a not super hard hit on the head from hamlin who has the padded helmet, and benford looked like joe biden on a bad day after the play. i think he was rushed back and was not fit to play. i really hope he doesn't have a real long term problem now. between him going in and no one being ready to replace him and the defensive melt down every year in the playoffs, i'm starting to think we might not have the greatest coaches!

realistic? about what, that allen won't pull this stunt? i don't think pegula will fire the coaches or gm, never said i expected it. he should, frankly he shoulda ditched him after 13 seconds. is that unrealistic? to want an improvement on a coach with the worst coaching blunders and the worst performance on his side of the ball in the playoffs?

im not saying i think he's great, but he's objectively better than mcd if we are going by his record and accomplishments. what else would you argue is a reason to keep mcd? his team's advanced stats in the playoffs are shocking. goat qb, woat d, and he's a defensive coach. mccarthy is 11-11 in the playoffs, prior to this season mcd was 5-5. id blow it up to get im because mcd is awful. any team that could win with mcd would win with mccarthy. tbh, i'd much rather get bellicheck, im just using mccarthy as the steel man argument. mcd is a defense guy, puts his time and picks and money there, and has the worst d in the postseason every single year. he's not good.

His track record is way way better than mcds. I like the dismissal of him (I don't love him or anything, he's just better than this dumpster fire we have now) because while he's won one, he only got as far as the NFC chip game and some 1 seeds (two of his losses in chip games were to the giants who beat the pats in the super bowl FYI) even tho he had a hall off Fame QB, and while his offense was always great his d let the team down sometimes. Contrast that with MCD, who has a HOF QB, won nothing, has been to two chip games and no number one seeds, and who's d has sucked hot donkey Wang in the playoffs. The knock on McCarthy is he should have won more. The knock on MCD is he hasn't won anything and he calls the shots on the team and he's a d coach and his d has been literally the worst in every playoff loss and his QB has literally the best performance of any QB in the history of the NFL in the playoffs. Any argument to dismiss McCarthy is an argument to our MCD in a barrell and throw him over the falls.

two better coaches right now: bellicheck and mccarthy. mccarthy is a kinda dumb corch, but he won a chip and had greenbay in the nfc chip game many times, and he got them to run a good offense consistently. at worst he'd have the same results as mcd. he got that trash dallas team w a back up qb to what, 9 wins? that's what mcd gets love for doing and backing into the playoffs w tyrod.