DrDawkinstein

Cropping a photo to focus only on a couple people who prove your point is doctoring it. Not saying LB3 doctored it, but I'd be interested in the exact wording of the google search that turned it up (if we were going to continue this discussion, which we arent, or at least I'm not, considering LB3 has had a rough go of it, and youre doing your usual constant-reframing-the-argument thing). To go back to your original reply to @Richard Noggin, you shouldve just said "so many people didn’t wear masks you cannot credibly claim that masks were the sole reason that virus did not spread due to the protests. " To which any of us couldve said, "of course not. masks, outdoors, and distancing are the 3 big components". As I had mentioned 2 posts above the one you decided to quote. And saved us 2 pages of watching you dance around points.

Take that up with the National Bureau of Economic Research, and all the County Boards of Health listed in those articles I posted, which have done the research and have found no conclusive evidence that the protests caused any spikes, let alone were "super spreaders". That photo (or any single photo either way) does not accurately represent the totality of the protests. It wasnt me that tried using it to prove a point. And it didnt prove your point either.

An idea I'm not completely against. Especially if we're talking outdoor stadium in a state that seems to have the virus under control, and a mask mandate (subject to fines) is in place. Then it just comes down to whether the Bills, the NFL, and the State of New York want to open themselves up to litigation for when someone DOES spread the virus at one of these events. That all said, I think it is silly that us adults are spending this much time and energy trying to get FOOTBALL back, of all things. How about we focus on what it will take to get offices back open, and schools safely opened? I'm as much a football addict as anywhere here, but it is low on my list of priorities right now. And I happily value the health and well being of strangers over my ability to go to a game. Forcing my way back to a game or even a tailgate isnt the hill I choose to die on. My man... between the doctored photo and this assessment of basic numbers, I think it might be a good time for you to take a break from this topic.

He's really perfected that Gish Gallop from following the top minds of TurningPoint USA.

Have you been to a Bills tailgate?

We can all post pics all day. JAHBH made the assertion. Back it up.

That's not how it works and you know it. Yes, a very good point. And one I'm not against, if you can ensure people will be wearing their masks properly and consistently. Are you confident that is what will happen at a Bills tailgate in OP? Remind me, does NY/Erie County/Buffalo/OP have a mask mandate when in public? If so, that's an easy answer. Have the Sheriffs hand out fines for not wearing a mask.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-events/did-events-like-protests-and-bar-reopenings-lead-to-spikes-in-covid-19-cases-idUSKBN249335 https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/24/883017035/what-contact-tracing-may-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/#1808ddde23dc https://www.healthline.com/health-news/black-lives-matter-protests-didnt-contribute-to-covid19-surge It's actually pretty simple... Protests: Outdoors, distancing, lots of masks Bars: Indoors, closely gathered, no masks

Yeah, I'm right downtown too but hadnt seen anything about that. Figured it would be bigger news, but nothing turning up in Google or Twitter...

You got a link to that bold?

This entire idea just proves the old saying: "Democracy is the idea the people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard".

I see you are unfamiliar with SEC Country... https://www.ajc.com/education/maskless-student-gatherings-mar-return-to-georgia-colleges/FYTDBTLXBVHKBB52QJ6O3LT7XY/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-alabama-students-crowds-safety-football-season/ https://bamahammer.com/2020/08/16/alabama-football-tide-player-calls-students-twitter-going-bars/

RIP Dale

JMHO, but if I owned the team, I'd wait to see Beane get the Tre deal done, and then extend him. It would reward him for the work he's done, and also set him up to confidently work the Allen and Edmunds extensions.

I have a very tough time getting on board with the bold. For so many years we've watched QBs who are scared to go down field. Who throw for 6 yards on 3rd and 8. Who make 1 read and dump. And it has been horrendous. I understand they played in a different era, but I think of "slingers" like Favre and Kelly. Favre had plenty of years under 60% (lifetime avg 62%). Kelly had more years under 60% (7) than over 60% (4). Those guys were always looking downfield. Always looking to make a play. IMO, checking down on 3rd and long is giving up on the drive. Might as well just punt on 3rd down if that's the case. I'll happily sacrifice Josh's completion% stat if it means he is trying to make plays, trying to move the chains, and trying to make things happen. I think the bad drops by his receivers hurt us more than Josh being unwilling to check down.

I came in here to say that I could see the President title ending up with McDermott in the not too distant future. But that would be a few years away still. Great point about keeping Joe Schoen.

May 3, 2021. That is the date the Bills must make their decision on Josh's 5th year option.

69%?!?!?!? Besides it being a "nice" number ?, that is a ludicrous demand. Only 5 QBs were at 69% or higher last season. Drew Brees (74.3), Derek Carr (70.4), Ryan Tannehill (70.3), Kirk Cousins (69.1), Jimmy Garappolo (69.1). You can have Carr and Tannehill. They make that list just because they always check down and never make anything happen themselves. You can keep that Trent Edwards garbage. On 3rd and Long, he better not check down to a covered RB just to keep his percentage up. Completion percentage, in a vacuum, is a worthless stat. Josh finished dead last in completion percentage last year, but I wouldnt say he was anywhere near the worst QB in the league. Agreed on more yards and DEFINITELY more points.

Nobody on this board maybe. But plenty of fans for each team would say the same thing about Mayfield and Darnold. Although, the argument there is that they haven't been surrounded with the coaching or talent that Josh has (coaching Mayfield's case, coaching and talent in Darnold's). I don't know that anyone is expecting perfection from Josh this year, but he needs to show steady improvement. Not sure I'd throw him out if he looked exactly the same as last year. He just cant regress. That said, if he shows the same amount of improvement this year as he did last year, we have our franchise QB.

Yeah, no dhgate ever. We're grown ass man wearing a jersey as it is. I appreciate you wanting to spend the $ to get the good one. Had a couple guys come into the Bills bar last year with the "Authentic Game" jerseys. They look WAY better than any other style of jersey. Fitted and almost tailored looking, tight in the arms. Looks like an actual jersey and not a nightgown. Only way to go for a jersey, imo. Side note: I still prefer these customizable "Jersey T-Shirts" from fanatics.com. They will usually run sales, and knock down the price to about $28. You can order any name and number combo. So I have a lot of old and ironic players at a good price. Get 3 or 4 shirts for the price of 1 jersey. https://www.fanatics.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/buffalo-bills-nfl-pro-line-any-name-and-number-logo-personalized-t-shirt-royal/o-3572+t-25371378+p-57384859852+z-9-738317809?_ref=p-TLP:m-NAFH:i-r0c20:po-20

I cant find any info on whether he has a wife and kids or not, but assuming he does... The guy has played on the East Coast his entire career. I'm sure the release and re-sign happened in a whirlwind of trying to stay employed. I'm guessing as things started to play out in reality, and with the way 2020 is going and people having to stay separated, they realized it probably wasnt the best time to try to move across country. And they are already financially sound. I bet he would have played the season out in Buffalo. Maybe he tries a comeback next season if teams are desperate for OL depth.

Im sure yolo posted this already but...

I would bet good money that Tre and his agent have almost zero interest in getting a deal done this year. And that is the major, and only, hold up.

Ah, great point. thanks.

I'm not sure I follow this. We're in Murphy's last contract year, so cutting him would only save money for us this year. It's a safe bet that White will not be extended this year (and Allen definitely not). So I guess if we were trying to extend Milano, it could help there. But that is about it. For what it's worth, if the only reason to cut Murphy is to get a deal done with Milano, I'd rather wait. Having Milano AND Murphy is more valuable than just having a rich Milano.