Casey D

The article linked on the front page today is really excellent. Explains nicely what happened to Allen on Sunday, and really why Belichick has been tormenting the Bills since SB 25. It also gives me hope that Allen will be fine, as Belichick is the master of effing with the minds of young QBs. Hopefully, long term, this game will be a blessing, as it shows a young team that it has not yet arrived. If they had won, they might think they are better than they are. Hopefully this painful loss turns into a "no pain no gain " situation.

Some people are just miserable, and they like to make other people feel as miserable as they do. They are sad, so don't pick on them, feel sorry for them. They deserve your pity because of the life they have to live.

Did you see how Goff looked in the SB?

Great listen. Thanks. Do you still hang out with Mr Beeper?

Of course it's OK to have a different opinion, and feel free to give it an F. I also have the right to say your opinion seems very uninformed, which it is IMO. But 40% of the country likes the President too, and I think their views-- which they are plainly entitled to-- are massively ignorant too. That's what is great about this country, everyone gets to have an opinion no matter how misguided, and I get to have an opinion on other people's opinions.

That's nonsensical. You said the first two picks were just "OK" just because they are "safe"-- as you define it. You suggest outstanding pass rushing interior lineman can never be great picks-- like Arnold Donald? Plainly you just want to pout because you did not get the Red Ryder BB gun you wanted, but please don't spout nonsense.

This topic is an excellent observation. This really is Moneyball. With the exception of Morse, these are all relative value signings, no big splashes but lots of very good players(according to most accounts) at reasonable prices with reasonable contract lengths. We'll see if it works, but it is the antithesis of going for the ABs and Bells of the world. I personally love it, but we will see how it turns out. 22 wins in a row like the Oakland As?

Nailed it.

I can't believe we passed on Watson. What a miss.

This 20 year old will be a stud in a year or two. His natural talent is amazing. Those weeping and nashing that he is not good will soon stop worrying, even if it requires conceding they were wrong about this kid.

Had club seat season tix for about 10 years. They are great. Heaters will make it feel like about 65 given the weather today, but you have to be up at least about 4-5 rows to get the benefits. Inside club, it's more like being at a hockey game. Warm and fairly civilized. Nothing snooty about it at all, just a more pleasant way to see a game, especially in December. People make plenty of noise. Have fun!!!

God, this board is unreadable.

I agree. And the arguments about his resume would apply equally to Nick Foles 18 months ago. No reason Barkley could not do the same thing here as Foles in Philly. If he does half as much, he's a fine backup.

Very close. Hopefully not incontrovertible.

I agree with you. Don't understand the non-love for Edmunds. He's a freak. Yes. Might have to take a one year deal now.

Not really. but that does not mean they will not say they want him at 105% before sending him back out there. Just my opinion.

Allen is not going to be declared "fully healthy" for Jax IMO. He may be healthy enough to back up Barkley. He will be healthy for sure by week 14.

Nice job. Keeping traditions going is important. And you do it with style!

We should always take the best player based on after the fact performance. Easy.

But that's meaningless. He may show"more advanced NFL QB skills" at this early juncture, but his 44 QB rating on Thursday shows that even with those "advance skills" he is not much good at this point. His third grade reading skills compared to Allen's second grade skills tells me nothing about who might win a Pulitzer in 2025. No predictive value at all. If you are saying his floor is a little higher than Allen, it says nothing about the ceiling, which is all that matters in the long run. Look I understand you prefer Rosen to Allen, and I'm sorry you did not get your way. But the rest of this is just rationalizations, though maybe someday you will be able to see McBeane in an unemployment line somewhere and gleefully tell them "I told you so." It will be cathartic.

People see what they want to see.

Of course not. No one does. But many have and continue to claim Rosen is superior, based on no facts. They preferred Rosen and that's that. If Allen ends up in the HOF and Rosen is bagging groceries in 2021, it will be because McCoy ruined him or some such thing. None of the rookies look great-- hardly surprising at this juncture. But for everyone other than Allen, "it's let see how it turns out." For Allen the view is he was always going to be a bust, and he has busted. Double standard.

Exactly.

To zoneabb--I think you are missing the point. Neither Allen nor Rosen have lit the world up, they look like rookies. But the "we should have taken Rosen over Allen crowd" contend that Rosen's performances thus far, compared to Allen, somehow validate their position. Last night is evidence that is clearly untrue. Reality is that the jury is out on both of them. But those that say it has been demonstrated that that we should have taken Rosen are presenting "alternative facts." Such is the state of discourse in the age of Trump. Just make stuff up to support your preordained conclusion.

Good stuff!