I read the Hockey Futures Board devoted to the Sabres. A mix of hockey knowledge, but the regular posters who seem insightful to me are relatively optimistic. My own sense matches their optimism, but as I live in Atlanta and only get to see a few games a year, I mostly rely on the opinions of those who see the team frequently. If you are talking 2020 to win a Cup, maybe I can see the outside date, though I think they will contend before that. Playoffs, as you note, is a relatively low bar. They will surely meet that soon, probably next year.