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I think the fella is kinda emo and his father is a bad influence.

If this is all true, Bills could stick at 12 and take Rosen or Allen.

I agree with you on this. My main concern with Jackson is that he seems slight to me and I fear he will be hurt like RG3, though perhaps he is more durable and I am being irrational on that point. Even if it is not dispositive, I'd prefer his Wunderlic was higher than 13.

I can't get a read on ths FO. Some folks think the want a big, pocket passer. That's not Jackson. It's not Mayfield, either. I don't see how the Mike Vick comparison is patently false. Good Mike Vick is pretty darn good, btw. I like in varying degrees all of the top five with some reservation on all of them. I'm not keen on Rudolph, so if they miss on the top four, I'd rather take a chance on Jackson. That's a very interesting speculation. I'm not an expert, but I personally like the four top qbs, then the top non-qbs are Chubb, Barkley, Nelson, Edmunds, Smith, Fitzpatrick, and Ward, imo. 10 and 12 might get you two of those fellas. I think 2 might be available for 10 and 12, but I dunno really.

That's all true and it ought to be rather obvious. Still, franchise qb is harder to find than very good receiver. A really good (top 3) qb can elevate the play of an average wr. Qb at top of the draft may have a 50% bust rate as risk-averse individuals are fond of pointing out, but it's far higher later on in the draft. Really good qbs are rare, but one shouldn't use that or the dependency of the position (inherent in any team game) as a rationale for not taking a shot when you have one.

Vander Eshe is a one year fella. Might be good, but I'd rather take that chance at 22. If Beane allows Cards to jump him and get Mayfield, it will be a huge fail. Much more likely we make that move.

How far is Brown likely to fall on the basis of a disastrous Combine and, I gather, mediocre pro day?

Lot of NFL players think Jackson will be good. Lots of NFL D coaches don't want him in their division. I am not certain he will reach his potential. Maybe he'll bust, but there must be something genuine about his ability for current players and coaches to speak highly of him. I think he could be good Mike Vick at best. He does need time. Not my first or second choice, but I think he's less of a project than you surmise.

If they select him, I will root for him to be excellent. Until they do, I am opposed to the pick. I don't see the steal those of you who like him do.

Jackson is not ultra-cautious with game manager as a ceiling, so as you say, not TT 2.0.

Debate has its limits. At some point, you just have to let folks go their way.

The OP specifies moving up in the 6 to 8 range for Mayfield, so there's that.

For some folks wrong about everything = pretty close to right.

Yeah, something doesn't square.

Astro has us taking him at 22 on Draftek. Mayfield falls to 12. I'd really be happy with that draft, actually.

I don't want a franchsie qb anyway. All they ever do is surrender.

LB and WR need urgent help as well, but I like Ragnew in the second. I'm hoping St. Brown is available in the 3rd for WR.

That's plausible. Months ago, I speculated we would end up with Rudolph because he was the one fella I really didn't want

Not that I know of. I don't think we have a shot at Darnold in any event. I like Allen, contrary to many here. Lamar is my emergency pick if we get frozen out of the top four, but that is a fail on the new regime's part.

Isaiah Wynn is the value pick here. He can play both G and T, imo.

This whole non-trade exercise has been a trail of tears.

Amazingly quick work; serendipitous.

Well, since we are meeting with all the top qbs, I doubt any of this is a tell, though Rudolph is not a first round qb imo.

Honestly, it was a joke, but thanks for the good work here. I like Raashan Evans at 22 if we still have the pick after selecting a qb. Christian Kirk would be a good day 2 target.

Maybe we should pay attention to who the Panthers bring in