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It is coming down by the stadium in OP. No way they could play here this weekend. This is like Snowvember.

Totally agree. I’m sad because I love going (in spite of last week) and I hate giving up a home game. But the game instead was some activity that I don’t like (opera, the Erie County Fair, a NASCAR race, etc.), I’d be out of my mind if it was played here given the forecast.

When this happened in 2014 Poloncarz was pretty adamant that community welfare was more important than a football game. He was right. The game probably is going to have to move.

I’m not happy that I can’t go to the game. And there won’t be a refund. The Bills will just roll the money over to next year, and raise STH prices by the cost of this game. The same nonsense they pulled with the last game, IIRC. But for football reasons, this makes all the sense in the world. Snow is an equalizer. We should throttle this team. Play it in Detroit with no fans. I’m totally fine with that. We can even leave some of our stuff there if we’re so inclined for later in the week. Much better than doing the Philly/DC/NYC thing. **EDIT - this presumes the game is moving. And, knowing Mark pretty well, and guessing that he wouldn’t have said what he did had he not known of the plan of the Bills and the NFL with respect to the game, I strongly suspect it’s moving and that the Bills are picking up shop and heading somewhere else (likely Detroit) shortly.

I have a guess. Oof. If it’s what I’m thinking, it’s pretty awesome and scary and definitely life-changing. That’s what I’m thinking, too. And I cannot imagine that Tre will play on Sunday and then again on Thursday.

Bills in the playoffs. Time to stop moping around and get our mojo back. Enough worrying about everyone else. Let’s control what is in front of us, beat Cleveland on Sunday, and move on to Detroit.

Good play by Peterson too. We could have beaten it with the right route from Davis. But Peterson made a really nice play.

I really think we’ll be OK. This is coming from a Southtowns lifer. There’s no way to know for sure until Saturday or Sunday. But, as of now, this is supposed to be a bigger problem for South Buffalo/West Seneca, which is just a little north of OP. (For those who aren’t from here, the SB/West Seneca storms are the really bad ones, and conditions can be vastly different over the span of a few miles as one heads from the Stadium in OP up Southwestern or Abbott.) These things also tend to wind down a bit before the storm watch/warning ends, which is 7p on Sunday. I’m not saying we won’t have snow this weekend (we will, and it seems like it could be bad). But the scenario we’re trying to avoid is having two inches an hour fall during the game. At this point, I’m not terribly worried about that happening.

This. Present your numbers to the QB and it’s a touchdown. Allen double-clutched to let the LB move toward Singletary. Safety was taken out of the picture by Morris. It was the right read, the right throw, and the wrong route. Watching it live from about 25 rows up on the goal line I can tell you that was an F‘Ing rocket that would have been a touchdown had Davis and Allen been on the same page. The Knox ball was gorgeous. So was the ball to Davis at the end of regulation that would have been a TD but for the very wise DPI penalty.

Given the state of our secondary, I disagree. The reality is that none of this would have occurred had Cam Lewis simply knocked the ball down on 4th and 18. Biggest blunder of the game. Maybe the season. A very fair point.

I really think McD was right about that. The FG would have put us up by 13, with the idea being that we wouldn’t allow them two touchdowns. Which, of course, we did. I get the sequencing is such that we would have had the chance at the FG at the end of the game. Whatever. It is what it is. I completely understand what he was thinking given that we didn’t generate too much pressure on Cousins and we were probably afraid to blitz given the lack of quality at safety and the fact that we had trouble corralling Jefferson all day. It was the right call, maybe the wrong play call, and bad execution.

I really think Davis should have bent the route. Morris pulled the safety out of the way, Josh waited for the linebacker to move toward Singletary, and if Davis flattens it's a touchdown.

It's in use next Thursday, so I doubt we'll be there on Monday.

No inside information here. This is a guess on my part. I think McD is approaching "phony" territory in the eyes of a lot of those guys after the latest debacle. Maybe 13 seconds is a lingering problem. I don't know. But it's got to be hard to listen to "process this" and "process that" from a little dude whose team consistently finds a way to screw it up when it means the most. This game should not define our season. But man, when you think about all of the stuff we had to do wrong to lose, it really is mind-boggling. To elaborate a bit about what I heard post-13 seconds, the flight home was chaos. Guys screaming, crying, punching out seats, screaming at each other, screaming at the staff. If it's true that nobody on the staff has ever explained what happened in the aftermath of that mess, it can't be a good look in the locker room to have this mess occur half a season later. Lack of accountability from a guy who demands it from everyone, I fear, is leading us to "phony" territory.

I edited my post because I think Minnesota had a timeout left at the time. So we would have needed two successful kills and then a run around on third down. So it’s basically two plunges and it’s over, even with the timeout. Bottom line is that we couldn’t execute a simple play and it cost us a game.

I was all for going for it yesterday in the stadium. In hindsight, the better play may have been to kick and to let the Vikings try to score two TDs to beat us. Again, though, whatever. They did score two touchdowns, and we lucked out with the missed extra point and the miracle FG. So we either deal with this and move on or it ruins the season.

Here’s my take: 1. I initially thought Morse surprised Allen with the snap, and that the idea was to try to draw the Vikings offside and to take a delay. Upon further reflection, I don’t think that’s the case, because 2. Allen has a tell on the sneaks. Just before he goes he dips his shoulders and leans in a bit. I saw it yesterday in the highlight. He’s been doing it since at least early last year. He did it yesterday before this botched attempt. 3. In spite of all of that, I still don’t think it was a clean snap. So on this one I blame Morse. (Just like I blame Cam Lewis for not knocking the ball down, and Gabe Davis for not bending the route on the game-deciding INT.) But whatever. We lost. End of story. We can suck it up and deal with it and move on to the next one, or we can wallow in the disappointment and let it ruin the season.

I doubt we see him next week. He hasn’t played in nearly 12 months and I can’t see them running him out there twice in five days when he returns.

I remarked to the person with whom I attend the games that I think there were maybe two snaps under center before the failed sneak. I think, given the circumstances, the play should have been to try to draw them offside there, and then to attempt to throw the ball once after the delay of game to burn a few seconds (they would have had to have run two plays there) and to have sought a little breathing room. But hindsight is 20/20.

Here’s my guess. Everyone is angry and frustrated. I know (second hand) that offense and defense were at each other’s throats on the plane home after the KC loss last year. I wonder if some of that animus has carried over into this year, especially when the offense screwed up last week’s game and the D couldn’t close the door yesterday. And, on top of that, we’re at a point where we have a $17m corner who inexplicably isn’t playing, a WR2 who is out to lunch this year, a mouthy slot receiver who just isn’t cutting it, a franchise QB who is snake bit right now, a bunch of dudes on D (Poyer and Edmunds, specifically) who probably look at White and shake their heads and then wonder why Miller got paid when they won’t. Add in another catastrophic loss that could be attributed in part to coaching (that’s not where my blame lies, but I can see how some would put it there) and this is probably not a very happy day at One Bills Drive. The solution to all of this, of course, is winning.

Yes. This. Lewis was terrible today. It’s a huge issue.

Me too. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him there a bit this week. I suspect we’ll see a few new wrinkles if Keemun plays. 2RBs might be one of them. (As will, I suspect, some tight line splits like we had against KC and NO in the regular season last year.)

Oddly, based on the wrap we saw on Friday, I do. I'm wondering if this is more of a nerve issue (pain tolerance/grip ability) than it is an ulnar issue. The guess here is that the UCL checked out relatively clean (at least less significant than the 2018 injury) and the problem relates to a nerve impingement, which in turn affects a couple of fingers and grip ability. Just a(n unfounded) guess, though.

True. But I think we'll see Barkley elevated either way as part of the subterfuge. They can always elevate him and then make him inactive on Sunday if he's not needed.

It’s a party in NYS. And I totally agree with you if you’re suggesting that today’s Republican Party is not conservative.