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Open air has nothing to do with it. There would be no way to get to the stadium if it was a dome. There is that much snow.

How Dawson Knox is going to get down his driveway is beyond me. The list goes on and on. This is a mess. They may literally have to pick each of these guys up individually and have a plan as to how to get each one of them out. Time to get the snowmobiles lined up.

It’s a nice plan. Some of these guys live in my neighborhood. I have no idea how the eff they will get down the street. And, even if the town plows, there is going to be a mountain of heavy wet snow in the driveway that someone is going to have to plow or dig through to get a car out. It might take hours to do that. The other option is that someone drives around in a plow and picks everyone up. This is a problem. I know where poyer lives. She has a point. And he doesn’t even have to get up a hill, like, say Miller and McDermott.

For what it’s worth, I’m near the stadium in OP. My street was plowed 12 hours ago and it hasn’t been touched since. There’s at least three feet of snow in the road. Objectively I think the national guard is going to have to come in to dig us out. Or we wait for it to melt. The town just let it go too far. I’m skeptical the Bills can round everyone up to get out tomorrow. I really am. I’ll be surprised if we don’t play at 8p on Sunday and leave day of game.

I don't know where you are, but there is no way they can get out of OP today. Not a chance. They'd need to round everyone up on snowmobiles. I've lived through the Blizzard of 85, Christmas 2001, the October Storm, and Snowvember. This is getting to be on par with Snowvember. That was a longer duration. This seems to be a little less overall snow, but more snow per hour. It's nuts. My street was plowed before 7a. I finished the driveway (after over three hours of struggle) around 1p. By then there was another probably two feet of snow in the street. I waded around the yard to check the generator, and the snow was up to my waist as of about 90 minutes ago. It's coming down as hard now as it has been all day.

Probably the Falls.

It is coming down by the stadium in OP. No way they could play here this weekend. This is like Snowvember.

Totally agree. I’m sad because I love going (in spite of last week) and I hate giving up a home game. But the game instead was some activity that I don’t like (opera, the Erie County Fair, a NASCAR race, etc.), I’d be out of my mind if it was played here given the forecast.

When this happened in 2014 Poloncarz was pretty adamant that community welfare was more important than a football game. He was right. The game probably is going to have to move.

I’m not happy that I can’t go to the game. And there won’t be a refund. The Bills will just roll the money over to next year, and raise STH prices by the cost of this game. The same nonsense they pulled with the last game, IIRC. But for football reasons, this makes all the sense in the world. Snow is an equalizer. We should throttle this team. Play it in Detroit with no fans. I’m totally fine with that. We can even leave some of our stuff there if we’re so inclined for later in the week. Much better than doing the Philly/DC/NYC thing. **EDIT - this presumes the game is moving. And, knowing Mark pretty well, and guessing that he wouldn’t have said what he did had he not known of the plan of the Bills and the NFL with respect to the game, I strongly suspect it’s moving and that the Bills are picking up shop and heading somewhere else (likely Detroit) shortly.

I have a guess. Oof. If it’s what I’m thinking, it’s pretty awesome and scary and definitely life-changing. That’s what I’m thinking, too. And I cannot imagine that Tre will play on Sunday and then again on Thursday.

Bills in the playoffs. Time to stop moping around and get our mojo back. Enough worrying about everyone else. Let’s control what is in front of us, beat Cleveland on Sunday, and move on to Detroit.

Good play by Peterson too. We could have beaten it with the right route from Davis. But Peterson made a really nice play.

I really think we’ll be OK. This is coming from a Southtowns lifer. There’s no way to know for sure until Saturday or Sunday. But, as of now, this is supposed to be a bigger problem for South Buffalo/West Seneca, which is just a little north of OP. (For those who aren’t from here, the SB/West Seneca storms are the really bad ones, and conditions can be vastly different over the span of a few miles as one heads from the Stadium in OP up Southwestern or Abbott.) These things also tend to wind down a bit before the storm watch/warning ends, which is 7p on Sunday. I’m not saying we won’t have snow this weekend (we will, and it seems like it could be bad). But the scenario we’re trying to avoid is having two inches an hour fall during the game. At this point, I’m not terribly worried about that happening.

This. Present your numbers to the QB and it’s a touchdown. Allen double-clutched to let the LB move toward Singletary. Safety was taken out of the picture by Morris. It was the right read, the right throw, and the wrong route. Watching it live from about 25 rows up on the goal line I can tell you that was an F‘Ing rocket that would have been a touchdown had Davis and Allen been on the same page. The Knox ball was gorgeous. So was the ball to Davis at the end of regulation that would have been a TD but for the very wise DPI penalty.

Given the state of our secondary, I disagree. The reality is that none of this would have occurred had Cam Lewis simply knocked the ball down on 4th and 18. Biggest blunder of the game. Maybe the season. A very fair point.

I really think McD was right about that. The FG would have put us up by 13, with the idea being that we wouldn’t allow them two touchdowns. Which, of course, we did. I get the sequencing is such that we would have had the chance at the FG at the end of the game. Whatever. It is what it is. I completely understand what he was thinking given that we didn’t generate too much pressure on Cousins and we were probably afraid to blitz given the lack of quality at safety and the fact that we had trouble corralling Jefferson all day. It was the right call, maybe the wrong play call, and bad execution.

I really think Davis should have bent the route. Morris pulled the safety out of the way, Josh waited for the linebacker to move toward Singletary, and if Davis flattens it's a touchdown.

It's in use next Thursday, so I doubt we'll be there on Monday.

No inside information here. This is a guess on my part. I think McD is approaching "phony" territory in the eyes of a lot of those guys after the latest debacle. Maybe 13 seconds is a lingering problem. I don't know. But it's got to be hard to listen to "process this" and "process that" from a little dude whose team consistently finds a way to screw it up when it means the most. This game should not define our season. But man, when you think about all of the stuff we had to do wrong to lose, it really is mind-boggling. To elaborate a bit about what I heard post-13 seconds, the flight home was chaos. Guys screaming, crying, punching out seats, screaming at each other, screaming at the staff. If it's true that nobody on the staff has ever explained what happened in the aftermath of that mess, it can't be a good look in the locker room to have this mess occur half a season later. Lack of accountability from a guy who demands it from everyone, I fear, is leading us to "phony" territory.

I edited my post because I think Minnesota had a timeout left at the time. So we would have needed two successful kills and then a run around on third down. So it’s basically two plunges and it’s over, even with the timeout. Bottom line is that we couldn’t execute a simple play and it cost us a game.

I was all for going for it yesterday in the stadium. In hindsight, the better play may have been to kick and to let the Vikings try to score two TDs to beat us. Again, though, whatever. They did score two touchdowns, and we lucked out with the missed extra point and the miracle FG. So we either deal with this and move on or it ruins the season.

Here’s my take: 1. I initially thought Morse surprised Allen with the snap, and that the idea was to try to draw the Vikings offside and to take a delay. Upon further reflection, I don’t think that’s the case, because 2. Allen has a tell on the sneaks. Just before he goes he dips his shoulders and leans in a bit. I saw it yesterday in the highlight. He’s been doing it since at least early last year. He did it yesterday before this botched attempt. 3. In spite of all of that, I still don’t think it was a clean snap. So on this one I blame Morse. (Just like I blame Cam Lewis for not knocking the ball down, and Gabe Davis for not bending the route on the game-deciding INT.) But whatever. We lost. End of story. We can suck it up and deal with it and move on to the next one, or we can wallow in the disappointment and let it ruin the season.

I doubt we see him next week. He hasn’t played in nearly 12 months and I can’t see them running him out there twice in five days when he returns.

I remarked to the person with whom I attend the games that I think there were maybe two snaps under center before the failed sneak. I think, given the circumstances, the play should have been to try to draw them offside there, and then to attempt to throw the ball once after the delay of game to burn a few seconds (they would have had to have run two plays there) and to have sought a little breathing room. But hindsight is 20/20.