C.Biscuit97

You’re not making sense and it’s boring me. Have a good day.

Exactly. He moved down, got a pick that turned into Kiko, who had a rookie of the year type season, got hurt, and traded him for McCoy. But that was Nix move apparently.

The 2014 defense shut down prime Aaron Rodgers and the last great Peyton year. They would have had no problem with our offense. Qb play held that team back but they were loaded with skill players and had a very good oline. 2014 wins 10-3 on a defensive td by Preston Brown.

Ah, this boards logic. Whaley gets no credit for good moves. Only the bad ones.

9 wins is winning the division. The Bills could be a better team than last year and have less wins. Our schedule was joke last year and we caught every break. This is the real test of how far the process is. If they get double digit wins and Allen improves against this schedule (obviously it’s early but it does seem harder), I will be fully invested in the process.

I really don’t get people like this. Admit you were the problem, take control of your life, and then fix the problem. This guy would be in the league earning decent money if he could take any accountability. and even if you don’t believe it, fake them. Smile, nod, say the right things, and then take crap about people to your friends and family like normal people do.

“Making a comeback”. I am also “making a comeback.” so his way of making a comeback is trashing the guy who drafted him? Who is his agent? Antonio Brown. BS. That 2014 team would have curb stomped the 2017 team and would have been the favorites against last year’s team.

But it’s a million times easier when you have the greatest qb ever who is also (while a d bag) as motivated as any Athlete who has ever played. Brady sets the tone for all the players to follow. Yeah, that statement makes no sense. It’s really based on nothing.

I’m totally sure about Bill Walsh did nothing without Montana. McCarthy won a lot of games but imo, he should have won SBs with Rodgers. People questioned Reid as a coach (stupid B word still). Think about all the coaches Manning elevated. Then when he got a potential all time great qb, he won a Sb. personally, I think coaching is very overrated in the nfl. If Allen is good, McDermott will be good. Belichick is a great coach but he has a losing record until Brady. I think a top 5 Qb matters a ton more than a coach. Imo, the best coach and he never gets credit for it is Joe Gibbs. 3 SBs with 3 different qbs. A lot different than riding the same qb to multiple wins. JMO.

I mean that definitely is valid. I just feels he gets a very bad rap. Terrible dresser but when healthy, a top 10 qb who has played with some garbage offensive talent.

Barkley and Peterman have entered the chat.

He was off to the best passing start of his career 2 years ago and running less. He was evolving and then got hurt.

True.

Could have been the next Gronk. My condolences. ? and this is why no one should ever get mad at players for trying to get every cent they can while they can. It also seems like we’ve had some terrible injuries to linebackers - Spoon, Cowart, and Spikes (who was going to be the best Bills LB ever). Damn shame. TD was awful after that. I mean this probably goes on everywhere but they didn’t just give him the passing grades. Wasn’t the story that Robert Smith wanted to be pre-med at OSU and was told he couldn’t because he needed to focus on football? I salute a school like Stanford that actually has legit student athletes.

Have you ever seen the punishment that Cam took? And he won a Heisman and MVP. What could he do if he took his job serious then??? and I want the best possible team. So if Winston is our backup, that would be a huge upgrade over Barkley. But what if Winston is the better qb in camp over Allen, which is a very realistic possible? What happens then? Our backup qb has almost double the int % of Winston.

Yeah, this is kinda of insane. What if the Texans didn’t trade Clowney??? What if Watt was fully healthy??? What if the Titans didn’t have an awful kicker? What if OJ didn’t go over to Nicole’s house? i mean it’s the offseason. But you would drive yourself crazy with all this stuff. Cousins had 4,300 and 30 tds the year before. Diggs is one of the best route runners in the nfl and a very good receiver. We are definitely overrating him a bit though. Great addition no doubt though. I just wish it would have be Hopkins.

Totally And respectfully disagree Gunner. Brady maybe a d bag but I have a ton more respect for him. He made himself the GOAt from being a 6th rounder who lost his job in college (bs reason too). Belichick gets all this credit but has never won anything as a head coach without him (that Cassell season was a team coming off a 18-1* season). And besides this year, how many times have the Pats had great defenses? I would bet good money on the Bucs having a better season than the Pats. I think 9 wins is going to win the AFC East this year. This guy is a rapper now haha.

In 2018, before he hurt his shoulder, Cam was hitting 67% of his passes and had a 22 td to 7 int ratio (along with 4 rushing tds). Obviously health is a huge issue but I’d be worried if they got Newton. He literally had a bunch of scrubs most of his time in Carolina besides Olsen. And Winston, who just had eye surgery, is a moron but he is also as talented as any passer in the nfl. Those two guys upsides scare me as a Bills fan if they went to NE. Personally, the funniest move would be for NE to sign Kaepernick and have everyone’s head explode. ? I know he was in a weird offense in college but I’d be stocked if Stidham turns into a starting level qb. He was hardly special in college and he’s just hyped because the Pats took him.

I’d laugh. Fromm was a game manager in college and has Matt Barkley arm strength. Eason has physical tools but apparently is a tool.

Definitely some bad picks. But was there anything worst than Chandler Jones for Jonathan Cooper? If the Bills made that trade, that would be a pinned topic haha. the team with the greatest qb ever has spent him picks on Dobson, Chad Jackson, Brandon Tate, Dave Thomas, Bethel Johnson. Awful, awful picks and Brady just covered them up.

If the Bills has Tom Brady, this picks wont be so bad. Whitner was a reach but he was a starting caliber player for almost 10 years. On good teams, he plays a key role. On bad teams, he’s the poster child for what is wrong. but maybin was bad. McCargo is even worse because we ended up getting Kyle Williams in the same draft. But I’m telling you, the Bills don’t have significantly more bad picks than other teams. We just don’t have the qb to cover for the bad picks. See the Patriots.

Good post but didn’t we just acquire Diggs, who had full on temper tantrums during wins? Also Brady has screamed at his coaches on the sidelines on camera. Marino would turn red screaming at his teammates and coaches. I’m telling you. Cam gets treated a lot different than most qbs. His outfits are stupid and sometimes he lets his emotions get away. But I’ve heard nothing but good things about him as a leader in the lockerroom. 2 years ago, he was completing 67% of his passes and was in the MVP conversation. Then he hurt his shoulder. The only reason he isn’t signed is because team’s doctors can’t check them out themselves. Also, the Panthers completely screwed him by releasing when they did. Maybe the Bears sign him instead of trading for a way more expensive and less talented Foles. Either way, I hope is healthy and gets a chance to start next year. I think he has a lot to prove.

People do it all the time and it’s generally wrong. My favorite example is the 2018 qb class is so far superior to the 2017 class that would be dumb to take a qb then. Great call by draft “experts.” that said, they would be absolutely insane to not add another receiver. This is a small group and badly needs size. If the add a Claypool or Pittman, I will be extremely happy with this off-season.

That team beat Aaron Rodgers without scoring an offense td. In the last great season of Peyton, they ended his td streak. Where were the weaknesses on that team? It was loaded minus that qb. If you put any good qb on that team, yup, they are SB contender. That was the best defense since ‘99. A truly dominant unit.

You’re crazy if you think he was running that draft. We took Jones and Proehl because McDermott was friends with Jones’ coach and Proehl’s dad. You mean people who tell the truth and not just make up things to fit their agenda. Whaley certainly made mistakes. You shouldn’t trade up for a non-qb in the 1st. EJ (though he believed in the guy and thought Marrone didn’t develop him right and he didnt). But he was never given full power to hire coaches yet worked with every coach they hire. And that 2014 team, next to the 2004 team, might be the most talented team of the last 20 years and probably would have beat our 2 playoffs teams. he’s not close to as bad as he is made out here.