dave mcbride

Well, Kelly did have two pretty massive seasons in the USFL, and there were a lot of good players in that league. He threw for 10,000 yards.

If Brady loses, Jim Kelly will no longer be the only QB with 4 SB losses. Go KC.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that we already have a decent backup on the team: Davis Webb. He has a year in our system too.

Barkley was 80.9 this year.

Flacco is absolutely terrible now and just collecting game checks.

The Bills first drive ended in a long fg and the drive should have ended in an easy interception. They also had to convert a 4th down along the way.

The Panthers couldn’t offer a pretty good qb as part of the deal. The Rams could. The Lions do actually need a decent qb for the 2021 season.

Goff is a MUCH better player than Bridgewater, who is backup-level. A decent backup, but a backup nonetheless.

The injury already had happened by that point. I’m sure the hit was painful, but it didn’t change anything. A torn rotator cuff is a torn rotator cuff. He couldn’t throw the ball 50 yards going into that game.

Newton’s injury problem has absolutely *nothing* to with hits taken either inside or outside the pocket. https://247sports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/ContentGallery/Cam-Newton-shoulder-injury-timeline-of-events-126689960/#126689960_2

Who?

I did see a few of his games. He didn’t really impress me as a thrower.

The 2001 Bills were terrible. The 2020 Rams were arguably a more physically gifted and experienced QB away from being 14-2. There is NO comparison.

Watch the Pats on this front. Just saying.

I’m basing it on his *extreme* arm talent (Mahomes-esque in his ability to throw from different levels; also a very good baseball player), mobility in the pocket, generally good accuracy, willingness to play through injury, and ability to make plays when things break down.

As someone who watched Davis Webb a little at Cal, he is definitely the most talented of the three. I also think that the really stupid tweets from Fromm last year that came out after the draft *might* (emphasis on might) have soured the team a little. Maybe not. I guess I’d bet on Webb — who Daboll REALLY talked up late in the season — as #2 and Barkley as a 3. They can PS Fromm, right?

Again, consider the franchise.

He’s more talented and McVay is betting on talent. Betting on talent is the way to go, I think.

Yup, and again, judging Stafford on wins and losses is a terrible measure. Just look at the organization since the early 1960s: 17 winning seasons, 37 losing seasons, and 4 .500 seasons. And look at their record from 2001-2010. Man. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/det/

Yeah, with those snap count numbers, you’d definitely expect higher counting stats. He did finish 6th in the league in TFLs, though.

That’s a good, if strongly opinionated, piece. I too agree that wins-losses stats are a terrible measure of Stafford. Stafford is gonna surprise a ton of people. Read that yahoo piece linked to above.

Yeah, i know, and i addressed that days ago in this very thread!

Agreed. The thing is that Goff put up huge numbers in 2017 and 2018, and he’s only 26. I don’t buy the McVay genius stuff. Plenty of great offensive minds look bad when the qb is subpar. In fact, I’d say all of them.

Enh. These games get feisty on the line. Not a big deal. It was an intense game.

Stafford is still an elite talent and at this point a poor man’s Josh Allen - which is still good. Stafford has always been able to make plays when the play breaks down because of his ability to move around and his elite arm. That’s what McVay wants - a guy who can rescue a play when it breaks down. That’s not Goff. Objectively, Goff is a better-than-average QB. The narrative around him seems a little nuts to me. Yeah, but that’s exactly what McVay wants - someone who is not Goff or Cousins. Say what you will about Stafford, but he has elite talent and like Allen and Mahomes can make plays when things aren’t working. That missing element has killed the Rams for the last couple of seasons. Don’t think McVay doesn’t watch guys like Mahomes, Allen, and (not least) Justin Herbert.