Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I beleive the sarcasm is directed towards all the people, both on this board, and the national draft experts who last year were stating that this years QB class was going to be so great. Bridgewater was going number 1, may as well start up a suck for Luck Bridgewater campain. A year later, seemed QB's were the least valued overall position i nthe 1st round, certainly at the top. Bortles went high, but many are questioning it too. Same as all the people on this site claiming the Watkins trade was bad as if EJ fails, next years QB class is going to be great and now we have no 1st round pick. Well just as a year ago this years class was going to be great, we know as little about next years too.

So then you take a QB the following year. At worst it sets you back one additional year. On top of that, EJ would have to look extremely horrendous to give up on him after two years. Most likely you'd still give him a 3rd year regardless.

LOL!

From what I've always read on the value chart picks a year out are worth one round lower, so it's basically the 9th, and a 2nd and 5th.

A 1st and 4th a year out, pretty good move

If I'm the new owner of the Bills: I'm going to get me one of those 29 YO girlfriends like Donald Sterling has, just make sure she's one that doesn't own a smart phone.

I hope al lthese QB's do go early as if true, leaves someone like Evens, Matthews, etc left at nine. And before someone says Matthews wil lbe gone what before nine, my logic is simple if 2 t o3 QB's go early, plan and simple someone else drops.

I can't imagine what 2nd round QB is going to be a likely step up from EJ. He may be another Tom brady, but the odds are against it. At best you're likely going to get a guy would could step in if EJ were hurt. He also isn't going to get much time to develop, so agai nwould slow his progress down. as far as BPA goes, once you're in the 2nd round the difference between player A vs B is so slight, who would ever know whether they selected him or not.

The one way it could happen is if QB's do go early. Back in Jan you had in some mocks, Bridgewater, Manzeil, and Bortles all going in top seven, on top of that Watkins wasn't rated quite as high back then. If that were to happen then some real good talent drops to nine. That's my hope a bunch of temas panic over QB's and draft them early. If the Manzeil to Dallas rumors are true, could you trade down with them, although also will admit not sure I'd want to go quite that low. Would want multiple picks back.

I'd prefer to give up the #9 and SJ to move up say two or three spots and draft Evens assuming you have a trade partner. To me Watkins and Woods are too similar, granted Watkins likely is much better, but still too similar. We need abig WR

Or another way is investigate his tax returns filed for the next xouple of years. But in either case most likely you'd be figuring it all out after it's already played out and you know the results. If it was announced that Jeramy Jacobs bought the team would anyone really care much what the trust says. All people care is that the Bill's are staying in Buffalo.

Luck I agree with you on. Wilson, to me is EJ with a little more experience and an amazing defense. Granted Seattle doesn't have a great offense, but seemed Wilson regressed last season.

Boy I hopw so! For every QB taken means another quality player drops down closer to #9

This is the poison pill RW took for Buffalo. Moving the team while could be done will be vey difficult and costly. Could there be a lawsuit and would WNY lose, sure it's possible, but the NFL isn't going to want a lengthly court battle, so doubt they'd ever approve any owner who they think may try and move. As the article said if someone felt the team was being sold to a group that will eventually move the team, they file an injuction preventing the other NFL owners from even voting. So why would the owners go down that rabbit hole when there are plenty of other holes to follow. Roger Godell would have to be very nervious about selecting any owner who in discussions were to even ask questions about breaking the lease. Three years from now the new owner trys to move the team RG is hauled into court and questioned about his knowledge that at the time the new potential owner asked questions that should have led him to believe his motive was to move the team. He could then be held liable. As was stated, the lease could be over turned and team moved in two years, hell they'd be lucky to have a court date in two years. This agreement IMO means unlikely the team will be moved before 2022, maybe 2020. And thta's too much time for a new owner to buy just to sit here. Likely to oif the state agrees to build a new stadium, similar clauses would be in the new lease too.

I think there's alot new in this! This article also explains how both the Bill's and NFL both signed off on this agreement that states we as fan's can seek injunctive relief. So If Bon Jovi tries to buy the Bill's and states, "No I'm not going to buy the team and ever move it" All you need is some fan to go to court and get an injunction that would forbid the NFL owners from even voting on approving the sale to him. Could a Bon Jovi win in court, sure but the amount of time required on a court battle would likely convince owners to not even consider that bid and look much harder for a local group or a group that is committed to Buffalo. I think this may be the reason guys like Kelly, Thomas for years have been all happy and saying the Bill's aren't going anywhere. For all the people who were continuously bashing RW for not selling the team to a local group while alive, this was his way of assuring the team does stay in western NY for a long time!

Agreed, But if there were instructions from RW that the trust is to sell to a Buffalo based group at any cost, then that is what she is legally required to do and that would be making a good deal for the trust per its instructions, Based on everything stated publicly in past few years by people like Kelly, Thurman, etc, about not to worry, I'm would not be at all surprised if there is not some type of instructions along those lines to keep the team here or some other type of poison pill created by RW that would make moving the team extremely difficult to do MW is not necessarily required ot take the best deal for the trust, but she is required to follow the request of the trust.

Conversly if the trust specified it should be donated to a charity or sold at at any cost to a group pledged to keep the team in Buffalo. the other owners owuld have a hard time going against that. They could keep declining ownership, but in doing so, that would keep the team here longer since no new owner. Plus someone would get fed up and sue the other NFL owners and win. Look at how many times the NFL had told Al Davis No, he does it anyway and wins in court. I think many sports leagues have constitutions wit hmany illegal practices, but get away with it as the yall agree to it, until someone sues.

Yes but there's a big difference here. SJ is the Bill's best receiver only becasue they don't all that many good receiveres. They drafted Woods last year who could become better in a year or two, today not yet. Replacing Stevie with Watkins or Evens is a step up, maybe not this season yet, but give it a year or two at most and the Bill's are ahead of the curve. On top of that , you have all the off field antics wit hSJ. Alot was being written late last year about Stevie not being a Doug M kind of guy. So if Trading Stevie and the 9th to move up to 5 or 4, maybe even throw in a 3rd or 4th, I'd make that move. I wouldn't want to give up draft picks to move up, but would make that move

So how do you have a Chicago at Detroit game on CBS? Did the Bears jump to the AFC and not tell anyone?? Well that explains why no Buffalo Turkey day game, everyone said had to be either Miami or Buffalo. Guess the NFL changed the rules this year. Will be interesting to hear the explanation on thta one, though mosdt people acorss the county will be happier with Bears-Lions I wonder if it has something to do with CBS now getting the Thursday night games?

Two things keep me from dumping cable/satelite, sports and the DVR. Kind of funny you see these articels all the time about dumping cable, but they always make little mention of the sports part of it. Hard to get an alternative to that.

That was the problem in Cal with the Raiders. Yes they signed a contract, but the contract was argued to be illegal. A federal court ruled in favor of the Raiders, but Cal apparently has very strict state labor laws and the argument was this contact broke state laws.Likely NY has some pretty strict state laws too. If they have to rely on State laws, likely cheerleaders for teams like the Falcons, Titans, and Saints are out of luck. According to the article in the case of the Raiders, they were considered employees, not contractors. That was also the jist of the article, this could likely mean the end of cheerleaders for the NFL.

For the most part, your orneryness was well directed.

Just finished reading an article in ESPN The Magazine about the start of this lawsuit by a Raiders cheerleader. After reading the article, I'm more supportive and I think most others would be. I believe they get paid something like around $1800 for the season. But they don't get paid until after the season is over. They have to weigh in every week or so, if they are over weight, think by more than a couple of pounds, they are fined. To those comparing to Fireman Ed, he doesn't have any weight limts BTW thank god! There were fines for almost everything, missing a reahesal, etc. One girl at an approved Raiders autograph session was signing here name with a sharpie that leaked on her top. She then had to go buy a new one out of her pocket at $100. It said the girls often are working at game basically owing more in fines than they are being paid. Game day BTW was a nine hour gig I belive it stated. There were many extra events they were requiredto be at for crazy amounts of time. If I recall the article stated they were working for the equivelant of a little over $2 an hour which was the crux of the lawsuit, as that's illegal.

Well if you graded every team on that same scale, almost everyone would be terrible. Except maybe NE, Indy, and Green Bay. And in NE's case was more luck in finding Brady in the 6th. I think QB is the worst position to grade a front office by as there's not nearly enough QB's to go around so everyone takes huge gambles there, and maybe 15% turn out to be true franchise QB's, and of those 15% most were dumb luck, or you had the 1st/2nd overall pick. So grade him on that if you want, but understand that it's about 90% luck if you find one.

I think his response was just realistic and brutally honest. The amount of posts on this board or any board who imply they no better than professionals is amazing. So his response to this thread was appropriate IMO. Two of the examples the OP gave was Whitner and Maybin, both selected in the Marv Levy and Russ Brandon GM era. In both cases, neither of them were traditional GM's in how they selected players etc. I recall ML specifically stating how he was building consensus and draft picks were a product of that. No inside information, pure speculation, but I really don't think RB even really wanted to be the GM and left to others to decide on the draft picks taken. He never claimed to be making those decisions either from what I recall. So if I'm not going to be making the picks myself, whom better to lean on than who does the HC want and unless based on a clear reason to go in another direction, would defer to him. May as well follow the Bill Parcells manta of cooking the meal and buying the groceries, so let Jarron make the choices. I do think RB in his present role as president is well suited for that role and is doing a very good job. While I also agree that Buddy Nix was a good football man, it could be while he was great at scouting players, to make the actual decision on who to pull the trigger on is not the same and maybe in hindsight that was something that Nix was not good at. He can tell you every players strengths and weaknesses, but de-cyphering that into who to select may not be as easy as you'd think, so could be that was Buddy's downfall. Yes agree, even now there have been many threads started and many responses to should we trade up, trade down, or should we select a TE, RT, WR, LB, or QB with the first round pick. So is easy three years from now to find evidence to support the argument that we as fans knew better.