Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Well using your logic of whom has been exposed, you could say the same for all the NFC teams too except Seattle. San Fran exposed Carolina and Green Bay.... I'd tend to agree with NoSaint's order Seattle San Fran Denver at the top three. Pluse from year to year alot can change on a team. Teams can suddently have a bunch of tape on Foles and you hear people screming to start Vick next week. Green Bay is one hit on Rogers from being average at best. The one thing I will say about Seattle it's a good blueprint for success in that I doubt Wilson wil lever get the salaries of Brady, Rogers, or the Mannings. But the trouble is those salaries take too large of a bite out of the salary cap. So having a middle of the road paid QB allows you to spend much more $$ elsewhere.

I think Tebow may have found his gig. Thought his commercials were some of the best, but also thought all around this was the worst year of commercials ever.

Forgot about him, I'm sure he'll be a lock one of these years, though has ticked off a number of media people over the years.. Front office people don't go in with helmets, but if they did I wonder who he'd pick Buffalo or Indy??

I'm certainly not in favor of that move to move Glenn, but have seen it posted here within the past couple months. I'm really shocked it hasn't yet been mentioned on this tread as viable. Agreed, with trading down maybe to 20's then get a tackle or maybe a LB there and tackle or guard in 2nd assuming you've picked up another lineman, probably a guard in FA. I've seen a couple of mocks where one of the top WR is still there at nine, maybe Evans, if so would take him rather than trade down.

So who's next from the Bill's super bowl teams? There's Tasker, but very tough road ST players, Beneitt not sure he played long enough, did Kent Hull do enough? Would think one of the O-lineman should go, but there was alot of turnover there, no one other than Hull was around that long.

He had success in 2012 when he filled in of the bench, this past year he didn't look very well the last two or three games that he started. It's alot easier to look good when coming in of the bench and no game planning for him. I'd give them about a 5th rounder. I think he's one of these guys that's worth more to Washington to keep him then he'd get in a trade.

Spot On!! I'm waiting for someone to suggest we more Glenn to RT to solve the problem. Problem with that is first off, Glenn has proved himself a more than capable LT, and even if he's not elite, may be as good as Albert. Plus when his contract expires, he'll want to be paid LT salaries and if he were to be moved to RT, he'd likely bolt when his contact is up as some team would likely pay him LT money as he's proved in two years he can handle the position. Either find a FA RT or draft one, but again you also don't draft a RT or guard at #9.

Yes we need an upgrade but you don't take a RT at #9. If they were to trade back to the 20's and take a RT, fine, but at #9 would rather see the WR or LB.

Pat Sajack?? Does that mean Vanna White is coming too? She still looks pretty good for an old lady!

I'm not so sure. From what I recall and granted wasn't following Tenn all that close, but I think Schwarz was more in demand for a HC position than Pettine was now so could make the argument that his resume was more impressive at the time. The only reason Pettine got the HC job was cause Cleveland is a 3 ring circus. Schwatz has taken a hit in recent years for his HC job in Detroit, but as many said he may be a better DC than HC. While his HC job didn't go all that well, he stil ldoes have experience even at what NOT to do, so I think having a DC with HC experience is a good thing as will be better at seeing the big picture than Pettine would have given us this coming season if he were still here. Marrone may use him for a sounding board about ideas he has, even Hackert could benefit from his HC experience. Overall I think Schwarz experience over the years as a DC was just as impressive as Pettines was. Add his years as a HC even though may have been bad, no way is he a step down. We could do worse next year, but may be more due ot injuries and other things, but I think coaching wise are in good shape.

The might part depends a lot on which side the trade is coming from. If Baltimore is pushing the trade then we may just offer our 1st for their 1st and 2nd . If we're pushing for the trade, we may have to throw in a 3rd to get them to agree, or to make it a bit close our 1st and 3rd for their 1st, 2nd, and 4th.

Agree, if that was the third choice I would have voted for that instead. We need guards more, plus didin't I recall Martin getting shuffled from Left to right side. So which is he?? If you brought him in would be at RT and are their better options for RT??

Likely they will argue in court that in Canada, the 75 must be changed to kilometers, therefore they exceed the distance so can do whatever they want. Eh!

But is there a better story line in Miami?? Those are the only two choices,either Buffalo or Miami will be playing that day in Detroit, so when you consider that is there a better storyline to play? If Miami had just won the division and looked to be coming on strong, maybe could argue they'd be a better game, but difference in talent between the two isn't very much, and Miami did play in game was tit three years ago against Dallas. Maybe they want to play up the bullying in Miami some more??

No you're correct, not formally, but certainly could help sway things if same other team has been there the last couple of times

Alot of the un-diciplined comments about him are more related to being a HC, as a coordiantor, not all that troubled by it.

Mularky was also from the Steelers, but wouldn't call him a total failure either. I really can't think of any ex-Steeler coaches, or front office that have been terrible. Donahoe had issues, but more personality related.

I believe two years ago, Miami played at Dallas and seem to recall the malso playing at Detroit on Thnaksgiving day recently too. So certainly could argue it's our turn.

So when Schwartz became the DC at Tenn, did he follow Greg Williams who came to Buffalo? Kind of ironic.

It's also quite a bit different here with the Bill's compared to other teams. Someone pointed out how Green Bay didn't give teams permission to talk with Alex VanPelt, but to me that's completely different. Here's the Bill's lost their DC, could have at least interviewed O'Neal for the vacant DC position, instead totally bypassed him and brought in a new guy who's styles might not even align that well with O'Neal, then to refuse to allow him to interview for a promotion that you wouldn't give him consideration for looks very unprofessional. If Pettine hadn't left and there wasn't any opening here that he'd been bypassed for, could see them refusing Cleveland, but not in this situation. As has been pointed out, what goes around comes around, in this situation the Bill's did the correct hing and allow him to move on if he wants. Actually this was kind of similar to the Bobby April situation where he was bypassed and was not at all happy about it.

Well from reading the O'Neal thread I'm sure many people will be posting here how the Steelers should NOT allow the Bill's to talk with him.

I'm sure the reason for the B is Manual todate is pretty much an incomplete. Hard to overcome a first round incomplete!

Just read on Bill's Daily that if O'neal goes to Cleveland the person they are looking at is Don Martindale from Baltimore? Don't know if his contract expired to he's a FA or what the deal is. This report was from an Ian Rapornport or something like that?? Wouldn't seem to let me copy and paste it here.

These guys have coached all their life, they want to keep coaching, Swartz may be around here for awhile as considering everything thta went down in Detroit, can't see him getting another chance that fast. Then again Belechk got a second chance after Cleveland. Between thier won/loss record and his personality, kind of surprising. But then again it was somewhat of an unusual situation with him the Jet's and Parsells. Trying to recall how that went down. We went with BP to the Jet's as the DC, then Kraft hired him as HC right before BP quit and then thet Jets' tried to make him their HC?? Or was it the opposite order??

No actually their idea was to reward the Jet's and Giants (and Cowboys in prior years) for putting up much of the money for a new stadium. Their reward is a Super Bowl, in the case of the Jets/Giants it also happens to be in a location that could get alot of snow, so the league is selling it as a having a cold weather game is the motive and the appeal as they figure putting the real reason out front would just make them look more greedy. But because of that they do need to have more alternative plans. It does make you wonder about the prior games played in Detroit, Minn, even Indy were their contingent plans those years? While the game itself was weather proof, the same argument could be made ofr the safety of the fans attending, but never heard a word about any other ideas.