Coach Tuesday

Why don’t you come out and say what you think the reason for the difference is? Or are you just asking an innocent question for others to weigh in on?

The point was to stir the pot and then sit back and claim plausible deniability “Who, moi?”, he’s been doing this for years.

Contrast it with Josh’s throw to Sanders. Basically the same throw from the same distance. Pats were in 2 deep instead of single high so in theory they should’ve been in even better position to defend that throw, but Allen makes the defense respect every inch of the field and so somehow Sanders was wide open.

Prior to his injury he was throwing downfield at a historic rate. Here is a good article explaining that the problem is his failure to operate within the structure of the offense. Roman’s bizarre and sloppy passing concepts aren’t helping him, as you’ll see from those clips. Same thing happened here with Tyrod- but that didn’t stop you from crusading that he was the problem.

He can throw the 20 yard out just fine, I don’t know where you’re getting that. It’s just false.

What do INTs have to do with his throwing ability?

Ryan I know you don’t really follow football but Lamar doesn’t have any issues with arm strength, and his off-platform throws are top five league wide. I’m giving you a pass because you don’t actually watch the games.

^^^ And again, this is exactly what the OP invited and incited. Not falling for the “I’m just asking questions!” routine. “I’m just flashing the OK sign!” Plausible deniability. We’ve seen this act before. The seeds were sewn and the message was sent and the predictable soldiers have arrived to air their grievances. This was never a football thread.

So, let's break that down a bit. Folks keep saying "he's not a great passer." He can make every single throw. He can make sidearm throws that few others can make. He can throw it on a rope; he can wrist-flick it downfield with ease. He IS a great passer - or at least a great thrower. He's not Tim Tebow (talk about a real media darling, there). He's far more than just a running QB. That said - can he run the offense within its structure? That's the issue I think they're struggling with. Huntley came in and ran the offense pretty well - in some ways perhaps better than Jackson had. In terms of electricity, playing outside of the structure and overcoming a bad play call, no one in the league is better at those things than Lamar Jackson. But it is TBD on whether he can actually run that offense, or any offense, within its true structure - which he'll need to be able to do if they're going to take the next step with him. None of this, of course, has anything to do with his injury. I STILL do not understand why that was the angle of the OP. Multiple posters have explained why a bone bruise is serious business. A couple folks raised the good point that what happened in Cleveland is basically Worst Case Scenario, rushing a young QB back from injury when he's clearly not 100% and asking him to carry your team and then having him face-plant. Don'treally see the media beating up on Baker for playing hurt - most takes seem to be criticizing the team for putting him in that position, with plenty of folks saying that he sucks even when he's healthy. But the whispered view that perhaps Lamar is getting a "pass" for bailing on his team with a boo-boo is not something that has any traction, anywhere.

^^^ There it is. The real reason this thread was created. Oh please. You know exactly what you're doing by this point. You've wormed through the substratum separating this forum from PPP to start threads like this one.

Why are you doing this.

I don't think the OP is questioning Lamar (although the wording of the post is a bit confusing in that regard). I think he's subtly questioning the media's "agenda" which is, among other things, extremely tiresome at this point.

Don’t remember one poster riling everyone up like this before - you folks realize (i) you’re getting worked up and arguing with something calling itself “FilthyBeast” and (ii) one poster’s “bad vibes” won’t change the outcome of the game, right? Personally, I’m far less anxious about this game than last weekend’s. This will be a heavyweight fight that the best fighter will win. Last weekend, I couldn’t bear the thought of losing to an inferior Patriots team and all of the psychological ramifications that would’ve made for a looooooong offseason.

I’m fine with using a Day 3 pick on a smart, athletic, perhaps undersized G/C prospect they can groom to play center in a few years but there’s no way I’m using a high pick or cap dollars on the position. They’ve also got Bates and Mongo who can slide over.

I don’t know if we need to upgrade on Morse after what I saw him do on Saturday.

Ford cost them DK Metcalf and Wyatt Teller - truly unprecedented. EDIT: never mind I see you addressed Metcalf upthread. Shouldn’t be reading threads in reverse. Wrt Morse, his play on Saturday reset my mindset on him - that was one of the best games by a center I can ever remember watching. Maybe he was just playing inspired because of his newborn, but if he can sustain that level of play for another year or two we don’t need to upgrade there.

Here me out

My bold offseason prediction: Kyler Murray quits football for baseball.

After reading this, I'd caution Schoen or anyone else about getting involved with the Giants...

The article seems to be saying their drafts haven't matched their scheme preference. They took Uche out of Michigan who I thought would become a great pass rusher and per the article he's not playing because he can't set the edge - which was never going to be his skill. Bizarre.

He's just a nightmare to cover. I'd love it if they could just match up Siran Neal on him and have Neal bully him out of his breaks but they've tried that before, I believe, and it didn't go too well. Taron is just too small to deal with Kelce I'm afraid.

Some real mouth-breather responses to a well-informed article and post. I don't see the Patriots overhauling everything this offseason - I think they'll give it at least one more season to see if they can make this system work. I'd expect them to franchise JC Jackson and then go after multiple WR threats - Kirk and Godwin would be two really good adds.

Josh was the rare athlete who was continuing to develop physically well into college and beyond. His running ability has simply and improbably improved post-college.

He might but Stafford has been doing this thing this year where he throws horribly stupid INTs on his own side of the field at the worst possible times.

Wasnt this bad. Peterman in San Diego maybe.