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Definitely Bentley

I think we're getting WAY too carried away with the lines. Our first pick was a DT and our next three picks (considering Eslinger seems to be the next pick) are O-Lineman? How many do we need people? Let's start looking at some DB's or skill players now (gasp!)

Did anyone catch the Combine today? Marcus Vick was interviewed today and I must say, he played the game for once. In that I mean he finally said all the right things. He said that he was downright emberassed about what he did at the VT bowl game. He said his family wouldn't talk to him for weeks and that he was ashamed of himself. He just got caught up in the heat of the moment and he's learned from that mistake. He was also asked what he thought his position could have been next year if he stayed in school. He said he's not concerned with it and that he knows he would have obviously went higher. He said he made some mistakes and he's learned from them and how to stay away from these situations in the future. He doesn't care what Round he's picked in or what an NFL team asks of him. He just wants someone to take a chance on him so he can play in the league. Vick will also entertain any team's request of anything. He promised to participate in all of the drills and interview with anyone. The only thing that was kinda funny was that he said the McDonald's incident was blown out of proportion. That he never pulled a gun on anyone stating that gun's are far too dangerous for his likeing and that if you look him up, you'll see he doesn't have one registered to him. He said that the only thing he was holding was a cell phone. Interestingly enough, two of the men who said that Vick pulled a gun on them; were arrested for armed robbery. So even if Vick did pull a gun on them, their character will be called into suspicion. Combine that with brother Michael's money and I guarantee you Marcus will walk. I wouldn't be surprised if Marv thinks he can help Marcus out if he says and does all the right things.

Wow! I think that's pretty cool. I love Brodie Croyle. He has a bionic arm and is VERY accurate. His only knock has been he's thin as a rail and has about as much muscle as Napolean Dynamite. But I never understood why this was such a problem. You'd think that an NFL Strength & Conditioning coach could fix that in a few months.

Marcus Vick in Round 6 ....... after Michael pays to get him off of course

REAL well. Too good to be true well. By the way, it's pretty bunk that they moved this over here. But anyway, here's what I did: 1.) Oakland - Vince Young, QB Texas 2.) Oakland - Manny Lawson, DE/LB N.C. State 2.) Oakland - Tye Hill, CB Clemson 1.) San Francisco - Lendale White, RB USC 2.) San Francisco - Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame 3.) San Francisco - Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama 3.) San Francisco - Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon 1.) New York Giants - Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida State 2.) New York Giants - Claude Wroten, DT LSU 3.) New York Giants - Devin Hester, KR/CB/WR Miami I'd add the numbers they were picked at and the trades that I did; but i'm at work right now

Actually, he's not a free agent until next season. But don't let facts stop you.

I was actually REALLY hoping AZ would let him walk. He looked like his old self most of last season. He would have been the PERFECT "Veteran QB" insurance policy/possible competing starter.

If by as good as gone you mean: not so much. Then yeah, I guess you're right. But to answer your question, I would love it! My ideal situation would be if Nate refused to sign that we "tagged n' traded" him for a late-1st and then took the money we were going to give to him and gave it to Ty Law. There will be people who will say, "oh yeah, like we need another aging DB". But the fact of the matter is, he's still one of the top DB's in the league. I like the idea of reuniting him with Milloy. It could spark them both.

He was coming on REALLY strong at the tail end of the season. He was throwing for 300+ almost every week. I didn't see Holcomb or Losman doing that at ALL.

I was just kind of wondering what the deal was with LaVar Arrington in Washington this past season? I know that he wasn't getting along with Gibbs and that he wasn't being used often but I don't really know why. It seems to be a forgone (sp?) conclusion that LaVar will be released by Washington. If that is the case, what do you think the odds would be of him coming to Buffalo? With Spikes' future up in the air, Fletcher being a FA next year (and not getting any younger), and Posey being a joke; we should probably get another STUD LB. Angelo Crowell played well and I think he can be a powerhouse in the very near future. But we'll need a replacement for Posey, probably Fletcher after this season, and if Spikes loses a step (for the love of god, no!); the addition of Arrington could help tremendously. Now i'll hang up and listen to all the "I've heard of 'em!" posts

I think Lee Evans was the unofficial #1 last season. He wasn't picked #13 overall to be 2nd fiddle his entire career. He is without a doubt the best WR we have on this team right now. I haven't heard anyone say that he can't be the team's #1 WR. What I have heard is that we need someone to replace Moulds, which doesn't mean that Evans isn't capable. It just means that Evans needs a partner and who knows if Roscoe Parrish is that guy.

The New York Giants select...... Devin Hester, KR/WR/CB Miami

Again, who the hell are we talking about here hammer? Ngata? Justice? Either way, i'm not down. I called you "tarzan" because you're just sitting there saying, "MUST BE O-LINE OR D-LINE" with no rhyme or reason. Ignorrant because you just seem to think there is top-10 talent at every position just sitting there.

Ah, ignorrance is truly bliss isn't it? It's so easy to say, "We need lineman! Me Tarzan, ooh ohh!". But whom? All you have to do is look at my avatar to see that i'd LOVE to have a lineman. But the bottom line is, Ferguson and Williams won't be there. So who then all knowing "HAMMER07"? Haloti Ngata? Winston Justice? Do you know what the drop-off between Ngata and Gabe Watson or Claude Wroten is? Not much. And the latter can be had in the 2nd. And how about the drop off between Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil, Jon Scott, or Max-Jean Gilles? Not much. Same applies here. And for all you Haloti Ngata fans out there, how many of you have seen him play? I'd say 30% of you at best. You're all just enamored with the fact that we can take the "top-rated DT" in the draft. But i've seen him play when he's healthy (and he's not right now) and let me tell you, he's GREATLY overrated. Geesh, all you had to do was watch Oregon's bowl game to figure that out. Don't get me wrong, he's good. Maybe better than anything we have right now. But he's not that good. The bottom line is this: there are only 2 lineman worth taking at 8. The problem being, the rest of the league knows this and D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Mario Williams will be LONG gone (as much as I want them both). So you take Vernon Davis or you take Michael Huff. You still have 3 picks left on Day 1 to load up on lineman. Hell, maybe you trade back into round 1 from round 2 or round 2 from 3. But i'd much rather have Davis and Watson then Ngata.

Everyone pretty much knows who is going in the top 6 picks. There's a couple of variables (I.E. trades and positioning) but for the most part, these guys are off the board by #7 (San Francisco could go a number of different ways): Reggie Bush Matt Leinart Vince Young D'Brickashaw Ferguson Mario Williams A.J. Hawk So given them being gone, who do we pick at #8? Well, here's my top-10 board after them: 1.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 2.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 3.) Michael Huff, DB Texas 4.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 5.) Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 6.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 7.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 8.) Winston Justice, OT USC 9.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 10.) Lendale White, RB USC Close calls: Chad Greenway, LB Iowa (Doesn't have that "Elite" LB play of Hawk); Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College (REALLY regressed in his Senior year and was useless in the Senior Bowl) Mind you, i'm basing this list on talent and not need. This is a value board. So of course we're not going to pick DeAngelo Williams. I have a feeling he will go at 7 to San Fran anyways (maybe even earlier if the Jets pass on the Brick). But this guy is AMAZING. He doesn't get near the hype that Bush got, but I think Williams is a better back. He ripped up the record book playing at tiny Memphis. He also did all that he did behind a TERRIBLE offensive line. That's saying something. So if i'm Buffalo at 8, I would take Vernon Davis if he's there over Haloti Ngata. I feel that we can get a DT (or two) in FA. But you don't get a chance at a PREMIER TE often. You have to be picking high to take a guy like him and if you're a beast TE, your team doesn't let you go like they would a DT. I know Davis hasn't played a down in the NFL, but he is just explosive! He's being compared to Antonio Gates and he's the best TE prospect in years. J.P. Losman needs a TE. Everyone knows that a TE is a QB's best friend. It's his comfort blanket and last year, he didn't have one. Buffalo hasn't had a decent TE in years. Mark Campbell just isn't cutting it anymore. We have a shot at bringing in a very valuable key to our offense. Kevin Everett might be good, but he was a 3rd round prospect before he shredded his knee. I'm not expecting much. On the other hand, Michael Huff is that rare type of difference maker in the secondary. The 2005 Jim Thorpe award winner is very versatile. You can put him at CB or S and he's just all over the field. He was the heart and soul of the National Championship defense in Texas. Ngata is the premier DT of the draft, but I think he's not the way to go. I say we keep Sam, try to get Grady Jackson or Ted Washington (after 6/1), and draft Gabe Watson in the 2nd (or Wroten in the 3rd). As for OL, we're screwed unless we trade down. There is no one worth taking at 8. Winston Justice is the next best O-Lineman after the Brick, but he's a RT with baggage coming from a team where he had ALL sorts of help. He's good, but i'm not convinced that he's the guy at 8. If we were able to trade down a few slots and pick up another 2nd, then i'd take him. After Justice, you're looking at Marcus McNeil. He has some sort of back problem that could debilitate him later in his career. But he's good enough to take the gamble on at the bottom of Round 1. Max-Jean Gilles is the top OG in the draft. He had a tremendous Senior Bowl. Grabbing him at the bottom of Round 1 would be GREAT as well. But again, after the Brick; you can't take an OL at 8. So flip out on me if you will. Say, "NO!! We need Line Help!!!". It's the truth, we do. Everyone knows it. But at 8 we need to look elsewhere. Say no to Ngata and say no to Justice. If you want them or someone like them, trade down. They're jusy not worth it from where we're standing.

I'm not worried if Ngata's gone. I plan on Ferguson and Williams being gone. With those two gone, even if Ngata's there; i'd go with Vernon Davis or Michael Huff instead. I think both of them are far better at their positions than Ngata is. We can get DT's in FA. But a prototype, Gates-like TE and the nations top DB? Not so much.

He could be a WR, but he's a great blocker. I don't see anyone moving him to WR.

Vernon Davis.

The guy is an absolute BEAST! I love the idea of us drafting him. As a matter of fact i'd go as far as saying that if Ferguson and Williams are gone, i'd pick him over Ngata (Huff over Ngata as well).

So let me get this straight..... You have us somehow either getting Moulds to give up a ton of money or giving Moulds a ton of money. Then you have us sign Brian Finneran and draft 2 WR's, all the while letting Sam Aiken; the captain of the Special Teams go and Roscoe Parrish no better than 5 on our depth chart?! I don't think so.

The San Francisco 49ers select...... Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon

Nope. I think there's a difference between taking a QB in the 2005 draft and then another in a later round of the 2006 draft as a backup. AND Drafting two RB's back to back in the same draft.

The San Francisco 49ers select...... Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama With Tim Rattay gone, the 49ers are left with Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey. Smith is the future of the 49ers, but his play last year raised some doubt. The 49ers will NOT draft a QB in the first 2 rounds, but in the 3rd they can take a QB and not feel pressured to ever start him. Brodie Croyle is just too good to pass up as a backup/insurance policy in round 3.

So if we addressed the OL in FA and then lost Eric Moulds, you'd want us to keep getting lineman?