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We saved a couple million dollars or so and who needs a backup Center anyways? It's pretty obvious, you can just plug in anyone at Center.

I concur. At this moment, we need all the help we can get. Something isn't right with Stevie. Whether it be an illness, unhappiness, and/or lingering injury. Now it looks like he messed up his shoulder. The Donald Jones experiment is not working out. Let's be honest. We don't have anyone who will beat you deep. At this point, what do we have to lose?

Now George Wilson's getting checked out for a Stinger. Even better. EDIT: And now the announcers are saying Eric Wood's down. But I guess every team has injuries >_>

Just off the top of my head, this is a list of players that are not playing today that were on our roster for Game 1: Demetrius Bell Shawne Merriman Kyle Williams Chris Kelsay Rian Lindell Aaron Williams Roscoe Parrish Chris Hairston is dressed, but still hurting. But if you just lay it all out and look at how many key players we've been down for at least a few weeks; it's incredibly damning. That's not even counting how long we were down Terrence McGee and Donald Jones. I know every team deals with injuries. But it just seems like we're always fighting an uphill battle with the injury bug. I just don't know how we can expect us to win like this. The past few weeks, I think the injuries are really killing us.

Where is this veiled accusation? Are you referring to my post of his tweet? If so, did I say he was most certainly taking a shot at Freddie? No. I specifically pointed out I may be reading something into nothing. And that's why I wanted to discuss it. I was interested in what the rest of you thought. And it seems you all think it was just a joke. Which is what I actually wanted to hear.

I did not see that reply as @replies don't show up on feeds. And like I said in the OP, I may be reading something into nothing. But the timing of the joke and lack of joke indicators that he usually uses (i.e. 'lol', 'ha', etc.) raised an eyebrow with me. But it appears the majority of people don't see it that way and that I was reading something into nothing. And i'm fine with that. I actually prefer me reading into nothing than the alternative of him actually being unhappy. But I thought it worth discussing. The stick's not up my ass. I'm not sure where this stick you speak of actually is, but yeah, not inside of me. I'm not attacking Stevie or anyone else here so i'm confused by the attacks from posters. But, it was a Bills event for Bills fans and this is a Bills fan forum. I'm merely discussing it.

Nope, just stating what happened and what was said. Not the end of the world or anything, but there were a lot of upset, disappointed Bills fans. And his comment about it came across wrong to those fans. Does taking cyber-bully shots at other fans rectify whatever situation you have?

Last night at Van Bortel Ford in East Rochester, Stevie Johnson and Fred Jackson had a scheduled autograph signing, meet and greet with the fans type deal. It was set to be from 7-9 PM. Freddie showed up and was INCREDIBLY gracious to everyone! He stopped to talk to people on cell phones, stepped out to the front of the table and posed for pictures with kids in wheelchairs, and in an even bigger gesture; he stayed from 7 to 11:30 to make sure every single person in line got to meet him. That's more than double the amount of time he was scheduled to be there! He was a real class act. I can't say that enough. Stevie Johnson, however, no-showed the signing. People waited and waited for him to show. Come to find out, he later stated on Twitter that he had to stop halfway on the road to Rochester and have a tire repaired. But not before imparting this nugget of knowledge: Link: "@KhawkCruisin: @StevieJohnson13 seriously, where were you tonight? Freddy had to do ALL the signing" He should be use to doing ALL the work Maybe i'm reading something into nothing, but what's that about? "He should be used to doing ALL the work"? I don't know exactly what he meant by that, but I found it curious that that was his first response to not showing up to an appearance for Bills fans. I'm a HUGE Stevie fan. I went down there with just my Stevie jersey (i've met Fred and got something signed by him before). But I was disappointed by this whole thing. I know things happen, but when kids are waiting hours and hours for you, if you need you're tire repaired; the signing was at a car dealership. Call them and have them pick you up and work on the tire at the signing (I jest ). I hope I AM reading something into nothing. But I fear Stevie may be getting some sour grapes with his lot in Buffalo after that comment.

Some thoughts I had yesterday: - Before the game started, I received my inactives list text from the Bills. I cringed when I saw Chris Kelsay was inactive. I've noticed that when he's not playing, our defense REALLY takes a hit. That's not to say we wouldn't have run roughshot over Washington's depleted O-Line without him or we would have beat the Jets with him. But the games he's been out, our defense has looked REALLY flat. When he's in, you can really tell a difference. I never thought i'd say it, but Chris Kelsay seems damn important to this defense. - All year, i've been thinking to myself; "this doesn't look like the Bills that i've known for the past decade or so". It just didn't. All year, it felt different. But yesterday, it looked like the Bills we've been all too familiar with before the start of this season. Just as I felt "crap, we look like those Bills again", it was mentioned on air that Ralph Wilson was in the house for the first time all year. Coincidence? Most likely. But being a superstitious, non-skeptic; a part of me wondered if bad 'juju' follows Ralph around. Was it not his call to bench Flutie in the playoffs? Perhaps our "curse" is not on the team. Perhaps it's on Ralph Wilson. I know it sounds stupid, but i'd rest easier if the old man stayed at home for the rest of the season. It's probably better for his health anyways. Go Bills!

Probably how quickly Pianalto got swooped up and given an active roster spot on another club. It just intrigues me. Two guys who play the same position, are the same age, from the same draft class, and are fairly equal in skill. Yet we let the bird in the hand go for the devil we don't know. But i'm not an expert on either guy. This is why I asked. If Smith is a much better blocker, than I can see the reasoning. Not to mention, Smith played in the Senior Bowl. Chix probably had a look and liked him in Mobile.

This is a good point that I hadn't thought of. Perhaps Smith was someone the Bills wanted to draft all along and the Pats just beat us to the punch. Now we have a chance to get him and Pianalto wasn't a very big deal to them. And let me say this is NOT a "stupid Bills making stupid decisions" post. This is a "do you think we make the right call?" post.

No, i'm not saying we should be angry about it. It's too soon for that. Just that we gave up a guy who has been working with our team for all of the preseason and most of training camp for a guy from New England who has no experience with our offense. Two guys from the same draft class at the same position with comparable skills. The bird in the hand was dropped and flew to Tampa Bay. Do you think we'll regret moving Pianalto for Smith?

I know this isn't a huge deal considering both would be our #3 TE going into this season. But I find this Lee Smith signing a little odd. Going into the draft, a good portion of draft "pundits" listed Zack Pianalto as ranked higher than Lee Smith. In fact, he was one of the top rated undrafted free agents available as many expected him to be drafted. When we signed him, I thought he may be our next starting TE in the near future. But it appears Scott Chandler was always "the guy". Pianalto had a decent camp/preseason for a rookie with a shortened camp due to the labor issues with free agents. Enough to make the 53-man roster. Or so we thought. Enter Lee Smith. A 5th Rounder from the Patriots. A guy who apparently looked pretty decent, but couldn't beat out another UDFA TE that the Patriots signed. Maybe they wanted him for the PS and we snatched him; but in the end, he didn't make the final roster. So to make room for him, we cut Pianalto. A guy we liked enough to make our final roster. Maybe we wanted him for our PS, but the Bucs snatched him up. I just find it interesting that we gave up a guy who has been working with our offense for a couple months for a guy who couldn't make the Pats roster. Not only that, but he was snatched up to be the Bucs #3 TE almost immediately. Both guys may end up being just bit players. But if Pianalto blows up for the Bucs, we're going to look pretty silly. So good move? Or are you worried that we may have made the wrong choice? Or perhaps, do you even care?

Not shocking and it goes with what I said in my original Pryor post down the page; some team with no brain in their head would take him in the 3rd. It's funny when stereotypes come true. Of course the Raiders wanted him, he runs fast I kinda wish Davis had put in his claim in the 4th. I'd have been interested to see if Buffalo would have tried to put in a claim after acquiring a 2nd 4th rounder for Evans....

As 1 PM approaches, I still maintain that we should throw in a 4th Round bid. Especially since we have another one thanks to the Lee Evans trade (ugh, that still hurtsto say). Is it very possible that he could just become another Maurice Clarett? Yeah, it's a very real concern. But at the cost of a 4th, his athletic potential is worth the risk. If he bombs, we lost one of two 4th's. And looking at our track record of 4th's (2011: too early to tell on Searcy and Hairston; 2010: Marcus Easley; 2009: Shawn Nelson; 2008: Reggie Corner; 2007: Dwayne Wright; 2006: Ko Simpson), what's the difference if he busts out? Yes, I know Terrence McGee was a 4th and their are other 4th Rd. studs around the league. But, let's face it, odds are not very good that a 4th Round pick is going to have a tremendous impact. Terrelle Pryor has potential. We need all the help we can get going forward. It's worth the risk to me.

Eek! So not only do you have a Spiller jersey #28, but you have an AFL white jersey of him? We only wore those jersey's for one season.... the year before we drafted him. That jersey is all sorts of fail I'd switch it to McKelvin. At least he wore that one.

If you have a shot at a guy who you believe could develop into a good signal caller for you in the future; you find a spot. Had we drafted someone in the 2011 NFL Draft (like many had projected), I assure you, we'd have still signed Brad Smith. Will Smith's official title be "QB"? Yes. But if anyone thinks he's really here because he'll be a QB for us, I think that's crazy. He should have his own spot on the roster under whichever category they wish. But he's thrown a total of 7 passes since coming into the league in 2006. Hell, he doesn't even wear a red jersey in practice. He's an "X Factor" at many different positions for us. But he's only technically a QB.

This is inarguable. But Mike Adams has made no indication that he's entering the NFL Supplemental Draft. Unlike Pryor (who knew he wasn't going to play another down in College Football), Adams has only a 5 game suspension in his Senior season. Most experts believe he's better served serving the suspension and then entering the draft next year. This is the most likely scenario. I would be surprised if within the next eight days, he throws his name in the hat. True, O-Line and LB are our biggest needs. But to say that we don't need a young, (possibly) franchise QB is false. At the moment, all of our hopes are pinned on Fitz being good this year. But he's not our "Franchise QB" going forward right this second. We were lampooned for the last two years for not getting ourselves a successor. I just think if we have a shot at a guy who has "Boom" potential at a position that's uncertain at best beyond this season; it's worth the possible (and some would say 'most likely) "Bust" at the cost of a 4th Rounder or lower. I'm not saying that Pryor is a sure fire "Franchise QB". Certainly not now. But if he spends this year with us, that gives him an almost one year jump on whomever we'd draft next year. Not to mention, it would cost us nothing in comparison to the ransom we'd have to give up for a guy like Luck or Landry.

Unfortunately for him, he won't have that opportunity. The NFL Supplemental Draft that he will be partaking in is on August 17th; 8 days from now.

I'm glad you brought that up. I hear Rosenhaus is running around saying he'll go in the 1st. I think that's just plain rubbish. He's trying to create false interest like he THINKS he did with McGahee. I don't think anyone with a brain in their head will take him any higher than the 3rd. Even with a 3rd, i'd be hesitant. I only mentioned a 3rd because I believe there will be a team without said brain that would do it there. I'm thinking more along the lines of a 4th and I think that's where most expect him to go. We'll have the 3rd pick in the 4th Round. After how this years draft went, if he's still there; I think we should highly consider it.

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/08/09/11/Pryor-awaiting-NFL-decision-on-eligibili/landing_ohiostate.html?blockID=545303&feedID=3725 Interesting. The NFL has announced it's intentions to hold a supplemental draft but hasn't let any of the players know if they're eligible or not. I'd say it's just a formality. Terrelle Pryor will most likely be available to draft on the 17th. While he is greener than grass and has had off the field issues, he represents an interesting opportunity for Buffalo. I think we can all agree that we won't be picking 1st overall next year (most likely). So Andrew Luck is out. And if that's the case, while Pryor's green; I think he'd be more pro ready if we took him on the 17th and he spent the 2011 season learning the Bills offense and being coached up than a QB who we may or may not take in April 2012. Not to mention, he could most likely be had for a 3rd at the most (i'm speculating, of course) while someone next year would probably cost more. With his growing up and playing in Pennsylvania, Buffalo won't be a culture or weather shock. With Gailey's love of mobile Quarterback's, I think this is honestly a great fit. Now i'm sure you'll all reply "pass, he's an idiot" or something along those lines. But what of those very same people when the "Vick to Buffalo" rumors were going on? That's worked out pretty well so far for Phili. I say; low risk potential high reward. If Terrelle Pryor became a Buffalo Bill, how would you feel?

I think he's certainly an upgrade from Whitner, George Wilson, Jon Corto, and Bryan Scott. I'd assume considering he hasn't stepped on the field and was a mid-round rookie, he'd be an upgrade over Da'Norris Searcy as well. But that can't be guaranteed. Long story short, for the right price, i'd be all for it. Offer a conditional 4th next year. If they want him gone bad enough maybe they'll take it. Couldn't hurt to throw it out there.

+1 Funny thing is, I actually started to come around to the idea of him coming back with his tweets yesterday. I thought "Hey, if he's been humbled and wants to accept a marginal deal, why not? We could do worse and he has experience with the team". But just as I started feeling that, he signs with Cinci. Which is fine too. I wish him luck. But in retrospect, if he wanted to come back here and he ended up signing a two year deal for 4 mil in Cincy; Nix must have REALLY not wanted him back. You have to assume he was told "you're not getting another offer from us and the other one's off the table, pal".

Yeah, I gotta disagree with you again on this. I would consider him more of a "big hitting" safety than a "sure tackler". There's been plenty of times when I yelled at the TV because he was trying too hard to deliver a knockout and not hard enough on actually tackling the guy.

"lol no"? Have you watched Bills games? I'm not a fan of Whitner or his attitude. But to say he's not a hard hitter, "not even a little bit" is just plain false. Whitner smashes dudes! The problem is, it's usually after a big gain. And, yes, I'm fairly positive he was the one who destroyed Chad Johnson (as referenced above). There's lots of things Donte can't do. But laying a lick on someone certainly isn't one of them. I'd argue he was the hardest hitter on our team when he was here. But again, the volume of the crack was usually a mute point by the time it happened.