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Keep hoping. Nobody's touching a guy with an official criminal charge of SA. Again, this isn't an accusation situation. This is a full blown, DA signing off on an arrest warrant for one of the most heinous acts a human can commit and for a charge that's notoriously hard to get a DA to sign off on. No team is going to put their support behind someone who has been formally charged with that kind of crime. No one would touch Araiza with a ten foot pole on the mere possibility that a criminal charge for that COULD come down. Bond HAS been criminally charged. That's game over. No team is going to attach their name and their brand behind someone like that. It's one thing to say "i've seen the accusations, but I believe he's innocent and it's unlikely he'll be charged". It's another to say "I believe that law enforcement and the district attorney have it wrong and we'll be behind him the whole way through the trial". Ain't no way. If you thought the PR was bad for us Drafting Araiza, that's nothing in comparison to having to explain why you Drafted someone who has been officially criminally charged. That kind of charge isn't coming down unless there's a serious case that they think is winnable. And on top of all of that, the league isn't going to let him see the field until the legal stuff has been cleared up. Which could take years. Even if he paid off the accuser - the damage is already done with him being charged. Teams and the public know that there was enough there for charges to be filed. In comparison to a situation like Araiza where as bad as things looked, criminal charges were never filed.

People need to shake that "Elam Terror". He was a bust. It happens. But that doesn't mean that every late 1st, fast, long, physical CB is going to be Elam. Just as every 6th Round CB isn't going to become Benford. Yes, we picked a lemon in the late 1st of 2022 in Elam. But in 2017, we also selected Tre White at the bottom of the 1st.

It depends who they like at CB. If it's Revel, you take him. He's unlikely to make it to 30. Almost definitely won't be there if you Trade down - unless it's a 30-33 type trade where you're feeling very confident that the Eagles or Chiefs aren't taking a CB. Even then, someone could trade up. It's likely Revel is off the board and Amos or Hairston are the top available. It's kind of a toss up on who would go first there. Though most have it as Amos. Again, if they have a preference for Amos and Revel is off the board, you probably just want to select him. You're playing a dangerous game moving down and expecting the guy you like is still going to be there - the way I see things playing out.

Our 2026 1st isn't worth 700 points. First off, our average pick over the past 4 seasons is 28 (actually 28.25, but you can't quantify a quarter pick - so round down). Whichever team we trade with isn't going to assume we're going to pick higher than that. More importantly though, picks in later years aren't worth the full amount. It's a generally accepted Practice that future picks the following year are worth a full Round less. A 1st is a different story than other rounds. But it's still not full value - let alone worth more than our 1st this year.

A Day 2 RB isn't going to happen unless they've traded Cook. Which, as of today, isn't going to happen. The latest report is that "Cook is going to play for the Buffalo Bills in 2025". Obviously if things change and you hear that he's going to holdout or that Buffalo has had it, that would be a different story. But as of now - that's not the case. And we have a full RB room. We aren't going to carry more than three and Ray Davis and Ty Johnson aren't going anywhere. Even if they decided to carry 4 (which is unlikely), they aren't going to dress 4 on Game Day. Which would mean one of Cook, the Day 2 Draft Pick, Davis, or Johnson wouldn't be active.

Where do you see this? If it's a "rumor" surely it's been said by no one of merit. DK Metcalf went for #52. In no world is James Cook worth #34. He's no higher than a Late 3rd value at most and more likely a 4th. RB's don't get traded for that these days. Especially RB's in the last year of their deal, angling for a top dollar contract, in the year of a very good RB Draft class.

Not in 2020. Threatened to hold out, showed up to camp without a new deal... https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dalvin-cook-will-hold-out-without-a-new-contract https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-rb-dalvin-cook-minnesota-is-where-i-want-to-be-at

The new Wall of Fame won't even be in the Stadium. It will be outside the stadium located in the "Family Circle Area". I really don't think you're going to see OJ Simpson there... They didn't take his name down, in my opinion, because that would be a bigger story than leaving it up and because they'd have to put someone's name in the OJ Simpson spot - which no one would want. Obviously, we won't know for sure until we see the new "Wall". But if I had to place a bet - I think he'll be omitted.

There's a massive difference between an "accusation" and a DA filing criminal charges. When it comes to SA, more often than not - charges aren't filed bc it's one word against the other and there's not enough evidence. The fact that a warrant was issued for his arrest speaks volumes. Araiza, for example, was cut and no one would touch him with a ten foot pile on the mere possibility that he COULD be charged Bond HAS been charged. This is not a simple accusation. There'd be nothing to turn himself in and post bond for unless they felt there were a solid case.

Ah, well - I think that's a combination of things. First, it's way more exciting when we're in the market for a playmaker than it is when we're in the market for things like a Nose Tackle or a Cornerback. On top of that, it was a very deep class for the things we were in the market for last year. This year's class seems pretty underwhelming. There's maybe 15 guys with a First Round grade. And we're probably not going to be in a position to grab one of those guys. I do find myself way more detatched this year compared to other years bc of the positions we're looking at and our position in the Draft. Most years I do extensive work on prospects. This year I have a pretty rudimentary knowledge on some of the guys and am more or less just going to look into the guys we pick when we pick them.

This isn't an Araiza situation. Araiza was deemed guilty in the court of public opinion, with what seemed to be insurmountable evidence against him. But the Police never charged him. Even with just the mere threat of *possibly* being charged, there wasn't a team in the league that would touch him. As we've seen with cases of Sexual Assault, most DA's don't charge unless they believe they have a winnable case with serious evidence. The fact that this DA issued an arrest warrant and he's being officially criminally charged for SA makes him undraftable. No team is going to take him and say "I think the police and the district attorney are wrong, he's innocent, and we're drafting and putting our brand and support behind someone who's facing criminal charges for one of the most heinous acts a human can commit".

I think it's pretty on par with most years. At least as far as newsworthy things. Draft/Develop/Retain really is Beane's MO - for better or worse. He puts so much of the percentage of our cap into our own that it doesn't really leave much for him to go wild. Combined with the fact that he's also fairly conservative, where his focus is making sure the team is in position to compete every year rather than mortgaging the future. Again, for better or worse. Outside of the signing of Miller, the trade for Diggs, and the year we were after a QB and grabbed Allen, things have always been pretty underwhelming with him. It's the same story every year. The offseason comes and posters get it in their head this is the year he's going to go all in. Even though we have 8 years of data that shows that would be akin to a tiger changing it's stripes. And every year he shows - it's just not in his DNA and people are bored/disappointed.

He's the #1 guy I would go after if they did try some sort of historic trade up. But it won't happen. We'd have to get into the Top 3. Nobody's moving from the Top 3 to 30 - even if you did meet the Trade Chart parameters. Which would be even higher than most bc we pick in the bottom 5 picks on a yearly basis. So those future 1's will be assumed to be that. The easiest hurdle would be Beane willing to do that and make the call. And that wouldn't happen either. He wouldn't pay that kind of cost even if the team were open to it.

I didn't even notice that. He's always sliding premier Edge Rushers inside to play Nose Tackle in his Madden GM mode.

He posted a pic. Whoopity-doo! Let's bust out the ridiculous trade ideas. He could post a professionally worded official statement, complete with signature, stating that he wants to leave Clevela... er, Pittsbugh and i'd still expect the next step to be a long term extension.

In Year 1 - 5th's are almost never cut outright, 4th's are never cut. Take a look at our past Draft's and you'll see that. It's Round's 6 and 7 that are on the bubble in Year 1. Like I said, we don't need 10 picks. But this idea that we don't need Day 3 picks or more than a few picks because the roster is just stacked is simply not true. On open roster spots for Week 1 alone, there's: 1 WR (lost Cooper and Hollins, replaced 1 spot with Palmer) 1 TE (lost Morris) 1 DE (lost Miller and Smoot, replaced both spots with Bosa and Hoecht - but Hoecht suspended) 2-3 DT (lost Johnson, Jefferson, and Phillips, replaced 1 spot with Ogunjobi - but Ogunjobi suspended) 1 CB (lost Douglas and Elam, replaced 1 spot with Jackson) And that's not even taking into account positions like LB and S, where they could look to upgrade depth (or more in terms of Safety) from. Or another CB if they liked someone more than Dane Jackson. We could easily find room for a full Draft this year and guys in the 4th or 5th would definitely make this team. And for a number of those spots, we need big help. We'll be leaning on this Draft way more than you're giving it credit for.

That's why OP's idea of giving up like everything above Round 6 on Day 3 doesn't really track with me. 4th's and later don't often become stars. But you never know when you're going to land on a Khalil Shakir, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, or Christian Benford. So you don't want to just say "F it - take a million of these picks". We'll definitely move around the board as we don't need 10 picks. But we will be leaning on this Draft more than I expected. We didn't do as much as I expected in Free Agency and then the suspensions came in for Hoecht and Ogunjobi. So we won't need 10. But we're not in a position to just be like "take 4 players in the 2nd and call it a day". That's why if I were to see something like what OP is suggesting - it would make more sense to trade down, pick up an 11th pick, and then move 2 or 3 in Rounds 4 and/or 5 to get back into the 3rd. Still maintaining picks in 4 and 5. You could move up in those Rounds too if there's guys he likes.

30? He's a guy who has a 3rd Round grade. Wasn't even selected in the TBD Mock. Even the article from which you quoted says: "Robinson is a consensus Day 2 pick by teams and could sneak into the late part of the second round, which is justifiable in my opinion."

I don't see all *that* happening. But I could see a scenario where they trade out of the 1st Round to the top of the 2nd, pick up another pick, have 3 picks in the 2nd Round - then move up from the 4th into the 3rd with extra picks. Having 3 2nd's and a 3rd, while still having quite a bit in Rounds 4-6.

Some guys will take a bit of a discount to play for the teams they would prefer to play for. But there's a limit to that. No one takes a 56% discount. Especially since they didn't go after him earlier in the offseason. If they wanted him, they could have easily made that happen. Instead they brought back Damar Hamlin and signed Darrick Forrest. I'm sure we'll Draft a guy at some point too. And at least one, possibly two of the field of Hamlin, Forrest, and the Draft Pick (depending on where they're selected) will be cut. If Simmons were something they were interested, I really think they'd have been in on him earlier.

It's a nothing post. It just says that a Vegas Bookie (Bovada) lists Buffalo as the most likely to land him according to their current betting odds IF he were to be traded. There's betting odds for tons of different players every year and only an extremely small percentage of them actually are traded. It's easy money for Vegas. Place a bet on a player being traded somewhere and if they aren't traded, it's free money. If I had a nickel for every player we were "favored" by Vegas to trade for that wasn't traded and/or wasn't traded to us over the years. That being favored to land Myles Garrett really got us far, for example.

Everyone who's floating out there right now are in limbo. The league is on to the Draft. That's why you're hearing so much "i'd love to play for" so and so lately. They're getting stir crazy. Simmons will get a starting role somewhere post-Draft from someone who's board didn't fall right at Safety. Doubtful that will be us. We're bringing back everyone from last season and a Diamond in the Rough type in Forrest. We'll probably Draft someone somewhere and they'll be set in their eyes. They could have had him last year if they wanted and passed. I'd be surprised if they wanted him now at 32 years old.

Makes sense. He's been very solid at both Guard and Center. He's in the last year of his deal and we could save up to 4.2m in cap space for Post-Draft acquisitions by extending him. I'm all for it.

DK Metcalf was traded for 52 and you think we're getting 44 for a Running Back? And a high 3rd for Kincaid, coming off last season?

If he wants to be paid what he wants, that's only going to serve to bring his number down - not up. There's been no reports that he's going to hold out. On the contrary, the last we've heard is "he's playing for the Buffalo Bills this season".