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He can get the ball to anyone. But will they catch it? Gabe Davis only caught 51% of his targets last season. McKenzie was at 65% before he was benched. That's a lot of drops. We only have Diggs, Davis, Shakir, and McKenzie under contract next season. And McKenzie is more likely than not going to be released. Last season proved that we can't just have Diggs and Davis and a bunch of slots. We need more playmakers. Beane is the first to say it. I'm not in disagreement with you that we need O-Line improvements. But I do disagree with the idea that the O-Line is going to fix all the passing game's problems. Especially when we have holes to fill there beyond needing improvements.

Exactly. In whatever line of work someone is in - if someone is being paid more than you for the same job and performance, you'd be a complete idiot to not at least try and get the same or better. I doubt any of these people would say "You know what? I think it's dumb what they're being paid. I'm going to take less and be happy about it. That'll show them!"

To me it's more about bad luck. Outside of doubling down on DE's and selecting Boogie Basham in 2021 instead of taking Creed Humphrey and reaching for Terrel Bernard in Round 3 2022 instead of selecting Dylan Parham - I haven't thought any of their picks were bad choices. From 2017-2022 - they've selected highly rated players who more often than not were good value picks. But for some reason or another, they just haven't panned out as well as expected. The Draft is a crapshoot and unfortunately, we haven't been getting much luck at the table.

Anyone who thought we had a better shot at getting Edmunds back than Poyer doenn't know what gets people PAID in Free Agency. Those things are youth, experience while being young, a clean bill of health, production on winning teams, pro bowls, draft pedigree, measurements, and athleticism that can translate to different schemes. Edmunds checks every. single. box. And when it comes to his age to experience (5 year vet at age 24) - it's completely unheard of. Regardless of how posters feel about him around here, he's going to get paid. Wouldn't at all be shocked to see him being handed the highest contract for an Inside Linebacker in NFL history.

Incorrect. The kerfuffle was over him unfollowing the Buffalo Bills on Instagram, removing his Bills pictures from there, and following the Dallas Cowboys. The article itself you linked does not say he still follows them on Insta. That said - this is all much ado about nothing.

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If McDermott is going to be doing the play calling as he has alluded to - what does it matter? And who of any pedigree would want the job if they aren't calling plays?

No, but he did follow Von Miller, Damar Hamlin, and Greg Rousseau today.

Haha that's awesome. Yeah, I've been saying all along that this is just a game to get media and fans to talk about him and this just proves it. End thread.

Stefon Diggs is easily one of the Top 5 WR's in Football. "What's that? He unfollowed the team on Instagram? Get rid of his ungrateful butt!" It would cost us close to $25 million dollars more to not have him on our roster than it would to have him. And where are you going to find someone who can come close to replacing his talents? "I never heard him say he's Bills Mafia for life and now he's doing some weird ***** on Social Media? He's not a team player. He's not worth the trouble!" There's some seriously thin skinned fans who can't see the forest from the trees on this board.

So everytime a player gets upset on a sideline they need to alert the media and pledge their undying allegiance to the team?

Um... no. He signed his 4 year, 96 million dollar extension on 4/6/22. Give it a Goog.

.... but he like, literally did. He signed a long term contract less than a year ago and said he wants to retire as a Buffalo Bill. Saying he quote wants to grow old with Josh Allen. It is put to bed. He's just trolling to keep his name in the media in the Offseason. People need to chilllllll.

Everybody is too emotional around here. He's a top diva WR. These things come with the territory and are worth the cost. And as far as diva WR antics go, his offseason social media games are rather tame. He is either (or perhaps both): a.) Wanting to get attention and keep his name in the press during the offseason. b.) Sees the cap situation and is giving the front office second thoughts about playing with his money.

I mean, it would be nice. I just think the idea of his value not being there at 27 is off. Especially trading down to get him and possibly missing out on him. Trading down would be a risk Beane wouldn't take if he liked him.

There's no trading down for Zay Flowers. I've seen just as many mocks with him off the board at 27 than on it. If they want him, they'll have to take him there.

Not an issue at all because he's going to be WAY out of our price range. He's a 2 time Pro Bowler with 5 years of experience at the age of 24 with freakish size and athleticism and a completely clean bill of health. Regardless of how many feel about him around here, being young, healthy, having had success, and having the measurables are what gets one paid in FA. And he has all of it. His age and wear and tear for his level of experience is completely unheard of. With the expected raise in cap, I expect his contract to be north of 100 million dollars. Most likely the largest contract for an Inside Linebacker in NFL history. If not Roquan's 100 million dollar deal, than it won't be very far behind. He's already said he's testing the market and once that happens - it's over. No decision at all.

Under a 10 million dollar 1 year deal? I don't think so. Exactly. And a 10 million dollar cap hit on that one year. I think fans are really over exaggerating the amount of return he'd get us. Wouldn't be enough to even replace him with a player of his caliber. So why do it?

We're losing Jordan Poyer already and Damar Hamlin is no guarantee to return this season and you want to trade Micah? That's madness. Down a LG and needing upgrades at RG and RT? Let's create a hole at Center too. Reggie Gilliam? Reward a guy for working hard and doing things the right way and then ask him to restructure/cut him a year later, even though he's performed well. Yeah, that's a great message to send to the locker room. And everyone's all gung ho on moving Ed Oliver. But he was performing rather well when Von Miller was in and he was getting help from better DE play. Moving on from him would leave us with just Daquan Jones and Tim Settle. Whatever we get for him would have to be used to get a Starter to replace him. I don't understand how fans are looking at the team needing upgrades while also needing to fill 24 holes from Free Agents leaving and think "let's create more holes elsewhere".

Even if he likes him as #2, we still need another viable outside WR at least on the same level as Gabe Davis. Last year (and common sense) proved that you can't have just 2 quality outside WR's, a bunch of slots (Crowder, McKenzie, Shakir, and later Beasley), and a Special Teamer (Kumerow). Regardless of who is "#2" - we will most likely only have 3 true WR's under contract from last season. So he's going to have to add there. My hope is Diggs, Davis, at least 1 more strong outside WR (via FA/Trade and/or the first couple rounds of the Draft), and Shakir in the slot (McKenzie released for cap space). Filled out by mid to late round picks and/or bargain FA's identified as fits or diamonds in the rough.

Yes, we do have to build the line. But Devin Singletary and Taiwan Jones (even though he's more of a Special Teamer) are Free Agents. Nyheim Hines has a cap hit too large for his role so he'll either have to agree to a pay cut or be cut. So right now the only Running Back that will surely be here is James Cook. Building the line or not, we have a big, big hole at RB right now. It's worth talking about and not an offense on building through OL to talk about it.

I think that's kind of an odd question. I mean, maybe there are *some* people that became a fan of the team because of a single play. But I think most of us are fans because they were the local team, the team they were raised on, or simply liking players or play style. I think a better question would be what's your favorite Bills plays and/or what made you a fan? I don't think you're going to find many posters on this board that will point to a play being the thing that made them love this team.

This is why i'm against trading Ed Oliver. Yes, we'd save 10 million dollars. But we'd have to then use premium resources in a top Draft pick or cap equity to replace him. With Jordan Phillips also a Free Agent, we'd be down to just Daquan Jones and Tim Settle at DT. So how much are we really saving by getting rid of him?

Perhaps it was just injuries, but he was buried in the depth chart at the end of the year. It was confusing to me because at the beginning of the year he was a Starter who seemed to be holding his own. Then when he came back from the hand injury, he couldn't get playing time over Tre, Kaiir, and Dane. But re: the OP - I agree. If Damar can return and Benford is switched to Safety as alluded to, I really think that position could be covered. Maybe sign a cheap vet you think could work in the system and/or Draft a guy you like in the midrounds. But I don't see the need to select one in Round 1 or 2.

I mean - not completely. But in a way, yes. After all, we only have Diggs, Davis, Shakir, and McKenzie under contract. And McKenzie will most likely be a cap casualty. That leaves only 3 WR's on the roster. Diggs is #1. End of story. Don't replace Davis in the sense of getting rid of him. But he should at least be sharing reps with a more reliable WR, if not moved down the depth chart in favor of one completely. That leaves just Khalil Shakir. He showed some real promise as a Rookie and hopefully will continue to grow as McKenzie's replacement in the slot.