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This is a perfect example of how this stuff happens... Quite honestly, I think they were both out of line. Hill simply needs to comply with a reasonable request and leave his window down. He has tinted windows hard to see inside and officers get shot at traffic stops that way. I completely understand why they wanted him out of the vehicle. He was non compliant and being difficult. So to me the order to get out of the car was fine and probably appropriate. As this is going on you can see the police officer become agitated and indignant. Which I get I suppose he is human and it is a confrontational situation. However, in todays world where this is going to end up and where the officer will be criticized is Hill was lifting his leg to comply with the command of getting out of the car. It was apparent at least to me they didnt need to forcibly pull him out and take it to the ground. They could have let him out hands on hood spread legs and cuffed him. They saw his hands, he had no gun. So to me in the end, Hill instigated this whole exchange by committing the violation as well as initially not complying with the request. The officer over reacted in pulling him out of the car and putting him on the ground probably because he was angry. In the end this will be this action that will be the one the public examines and is pointed too. "Look, he is complying and getting out of the car" "Why did you need to pull him out and throw him to the ground?" .... and they wont be wrong. Unfortunately this will be the over all narrative with a subsection of people arguing Hill should have just listened etc... and the argument will continue. In the end I dont think this was about race, or the officer was a Jags fan or anything insidious. I think it was an individual acting like an a$$ and an over authoritative officer who got pissed and was gonna teach him a lesson about listening to COPs. And I am not sure I am good with either of their actions.... So Hill is not wrong, we have to be better... including him. Much better.

See I thought he ran into him maybe it was just the receiver momentum... either way I am glad it was a no call.

Exactly

very possible he doesnt... it would certainly not surprise me if he didnt.

I agree, Bulldog is a nice buffer.. but really not all that knowledgeable and rarely facilitates Schop is just a jacka@$ . I remember back in the day when Sal C used to pod cast dont know if he does anymore, but that was interesting...

I was waiting for a spleen comment LOL 😅😆

That too the one that actually hit him on the backside right?

There was a lot of questionable calls and non calls... at the end I have seen the PI and holding called on two of those plays on their final drive pretty routinely. I think they were good no calls... but I am just sayin if that was us I would be screaming LOL...

I dont disagree with any of this... but if the Gmen are 5 -12 and a tire fire, I think he and Schoen are the sacrificial lambs... But to your point not sure if BD pushed for Jones...

It was great to see Groot as a dominant threat... gonna need that from him all year

Oh the venom I spewed after that....

He really is dangerous to himself and others... It really was good to see him makes some plays we really needed that... It really was good to see him makes some plays we really needed that... Not sure about that, but if it was a bone bruise I would have expected him back.

Right... I remember them trashing Leodis McKelvins grass after he fumbled a KO return against the Pats... I remember thinking what is wrong with people... like seriously. You want to yell at them in the game... thats the game... when its over they are people and thats when I am like get you a$$ out there and do better bit&h. Just cause you paid for a ticket once doesnt mean you get to carry this over to real life.

The grass is not always greener... thats for sure. I get that he took a head coaching job... I mean you work all your life for that if it is your goal... but man, you hook up in the wrong situation it can be a really difficult road. I get they took their shot with Jones, but that was sure a swing and a miss... I think Deshaun Watson is worse, I struggle to think of a worse QB deal on the market other than Clevelands... I mean give the Pats and Jets credit, they cut bait (Jets twice) on high drafted QBs before they got sucked in. But in todays CAP world giving a big contract to the wrong QB is literally doom.

Oh I think there is truth to this as well...

LOL, great minds

LOL indeed if we win this one it will be cause the offense rolls em and that is possible lots of losses on their Defense so thats the route. Score TDs and keep them to FGs.

Brian Daboll will be on the market after this season I think.

agreed 100% I think it showed up in alot of facets but very evident in the Run D with Poyer,Hyde and Milano out... some keystone cop tackling on a few plays too.

I am always worried about every team and every game... not gonna lie. Definitely worried about the D in this game....

I was thinking the same thing, those didnt show up on the stat sheet, but definitely impacted the game in a big way.

These dudes need to get a life if they are literally waiting after a game to spew at another person. Like seriously he took hours out of his day to spew venom. Will never understand it.

I agree mostly here... I actually didnt think it was blatant but couple of PI or D Holding on the last drive of the game they let them play but I have seen called before. If it happened to the Bills I would probably be flipping out not gonna lie. I bet the AZ board is... but yeah I dont disagree, those were good let em play calls.

The only thing I could see is they were getting more contained pressure. Plus forcing a turnover helps. I think the did a good job of shutting down MH Jr. other than that very concerned about the over all play. Loss of Poyer and Hyde and Milano were evident on some of the gashing runs the ran off... that is going to be an issue this year unless they start to pull it together.

Coaching over all D DEFENSE - D OFFENSE - B St - F