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Not that I don’t agree but isn’t a receiver that can consistently ‘get open’ be top 10 regardless of who the qb is?

You should be upset with Beane not Diggs.

Yet they won. But you’re right. They had a great defense that carried them through offensive lulls this past season. What about the Superbowl they won the year before when their defense gave up 35 points in that game? KC’s best attribute is doing just enough to get the job done. Whether it’s offense, defense, ST. It’s a team game afterall. Now that’s an aspiration the Bills can get on board with imo.

I think you’re missing the point of what a great qb can do to elevate his weapons. So on paper KC’s weapons have been meh the last two years but they’ve won it all due in large to their qb. Same can be said of Allen and this current Bills group.

I see. Yeah you’re right. It’s insane that the their floor with Mahomes is the AFCCG.

You do know KC has lost big games with Mahomes right? 2018 AFCCG, 2020 Superbowl, 2021 AFCCG. I know it feels like he wins every year but they have been taking down before.

And a long healthy life was overrated…

They’ve been together since HS. If anything wouldn’t it shows that he’s loyal and isn’t that an admirable trait? I agree with you about the ‘hate’ part. How can a person hate someone they only see play ball on TV. I get hating teams but individuals? It says more about the person doing the hating.

Good for 13mil a year apparently.

Sounds like Martyball from the 90s.

We got our own Toney now? Beane is taking this mirroring KC’s blueprint a little too far. 😝

Not every franchise qb, no matter how talented, can do what Mahomes has done. At the surface I agree with you that since Allen ‘arrived’ he should make any receivers better. That’s necessary because of how much franchise QBs make. However, four years with Diggs, a top 5 receiver most of that time, and Davis, a great 2nd option, and we couldn’t get over the top. I do think 2 top flight receivers is necessary for Allen. Hopefully Kincaid and Coleman can develop into those roles. With the cap situation investing in a premier wr in FA is probably not doable.

Not even a big deal for KC if he does miss 8 games. They’re loaded and he’d be back for the playoffs anyway.

When Mahomes was on his rookie contract KC signed Sammy Watkins and drafted Hardman to go along with Hill and Kelce. Then they won their first Superbowl so I think that qualifies the scenario you laid out. Then they won 2 more without big name receivers so I guess a team can do it either way.

Anything is possible. But we couldn’t do it with a franchise qb and quality vets that have played together the last handful of years. To suddenly lose those guys and win with rookies replacements the first year of transition is something I wouldn’t bet on.

Their D was not excellent in ‘22 due to all the rookies as mentioned. Agree about the QB, TE, and excellent coaching.

People saw how KC won it all when they started a bunch of rookies in ‘22 and think that’s the norm when it’s really an anomaly. Outside of KC I can’t think of a team that can achieve that in the current NFL.

I think winning the division is not unrealistic. I actually expect them to despite improvements from the other teams in their division. Going further in the playoffs than the divisional? I don’t think it will happen this year. The following year is more realistic for that expectation to me. Can’t wait to see how it unfolds.

That’s a heck of a dream you had last night. Congrats.

I see Mitch Trubisky and Sam Darnold.

‘I think he’s a great quarterback, one of the best in the league right now’ Red flag. He didn’t say the best.

This kind of money gets you a middle of the road wr.

If KC wins the Superbowl this coming season he retires. My prediction.

Yet another thread defending and justifying Coleman’s 40 time. That alone acknowledges that he is slow compared to other receivers. What people don’t get is it doesn’t matter how slow he is if he can juke the defender into running the wrong way. He also has strong hands for contested catches if the defender closes in. So embrace his speed (or lack there of). Can’t wait to see him play in this offense.

The short methodical game is where championships are won. I agree with you on all the reasons that’s not where Allen excels. But he has to improve in this area if the Bills are to ever win one.